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charlest

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14 lb. Honey Badger
on: July 25, 2017, 04:19:25 PM
Given the specs of the Honey Badger's 14 lb. core, I strongly suspect the 14 lb. ball will be almost completely different in ball reaction and in oil handling from the 15 lb. and 16 lb. versions.

Has anyone yet drilled up a 14 lb. HB and what did you find:
- how much oil can it handling?
- what does it breakpoint look like, on true medium oil?

Of course, we need to know your release/delivery specs and how you drilled it

Thanks.
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Re: 14 lb. Honey Badger
Reply #1 on: July 25, 2017, 05:36:08 PM
Wow, don't normally see that difference between 14 & 15/16. You do when you get below 14. As one who throws 13 lbs, most reviews don't mean so much to me. Coverstock does, otherwise I look at rg and diff on the manufacturers website for the weight I am using, and use those in my decision. I would expect reviews on Honey Badger to be of little use for a 14 lb ball

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Re: 14 lb. Honey Badger
Reply #2 on: July 25, 2017, 07:01:31 PM
Wow, don't normally see that difference between 14 & 15/16. You do when you get below 14. As one who throws 13 lbs, most reviews don't mean so much to me. Coverstock does, otherwise I look at rg and diff on the manufacturers website for the weight I am using, and use those in my decision. I would expect reviews on Honey Badger to be of little use for a 14 lb ball

And that's exactly why I posed this question.
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Re: 14 lb. Honey Badger
Reply #3 on: July 25, 2017, 07:56:18 PM
Of course

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Re: 14 lb. Honey Badger
Reply #4 on: July 25, 2017, 08:19:30 PM
with those core numbers,that tall core and a strong polished pearl cover it screams skid/flip to me.
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Re: 14 lb. Honey Badger
Reply #5 on: July 25, 2017, 09:55:30 PM
I bet numbers are going to lie when it comes to predicting ball motion on this one. Every time I see it, I'm more and more impressed.
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Re: 14 lb. Honey Badger
Reply #6 on: July 26, 2017, 04:14:56 AM
I bet numbers are going to lie when it comes to predicting ball motion on this one. Every time I see it, I'm more and more impressed.

But have you seen anyone throwing the 14 lb. version?
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Re: 14 lb. Honey Badger
Reply #7 on: July 26, 2017, 06:07:59 AM
Global describes it as skid/snap . the ball screams skid snap. it's most likely skid/snap. if it had a short fat core I would be interested.
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Re: 14 lb. Honey Badger
Reply #8 on: July 26, 2017, 09:43:46 AM
I bet numbers are going to lie when it comes to predicting ball motion on this one. Every time I see it, I'm more and more impressed.

But have you seen anyone throwing the 14 lb. version?

No, I have not, but let me tell you about a little ball I love, called the Link. 2.61, 0.030, 0.005 rocking S30. On mediums, I could really open up the lane and the ball had no quit to it.

Now, 14 lbs HB is 2.64, 0.020, and 0.003 with S71. Slightly higher RG, slightly lower diff. Strong flippy shell on it. The ball is going to push easy and when it sees friction isn't going to flare out.

I can't wait for someone to throw one to set everyone's mind at ease.
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Re: 14 lb. Honey Badger
Reply #9 on: July 26, 2017, 10:09:14 AM
I bet numbers are going to lie when it comes to predicting ball motion on this one. Every time I see it, I'm more and more impressed.

But have you seen anyone throwing the 14 lb. version?

No, I have not, but let me tell you about a little ball I love, called the Link. 2.61, 0.030, 0.005 rocking S30. On mediums, I could really open up the lane and the ball had no quit to it.

Now, 14 lbs HB is 2.64, 0.020, and 0.003 with S71. Slightly higher RG, slightly lower diff. Strong flippy shell on it. The ball is going to push easy and when it sees friction isn't going to flare out.

I can't wait for someone to throw one to set everyone's mind at ease.

Yes, I remember that unusual core.
My fear is that with such a strong cover on the HB compared to the Link, the HB will have a very flippy backend.

I have a ball, somewhat similar to the link, called the AMF Orbit Extreme, with a somewhat milder, smoother core: RG of 2.6, Diff of .024", veyr useful for fairly dry lanes. Goo carry power with its F35 coverstock.
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Reply #10 on: July 26, 2017, 10:26:23 AM
Well, the Orbit Extreme had a very elliptical core. Very X ish. The cores in both the HB and the Link were much taller. When that tall core finds it's PSA, it changes direction much quicker than the elliptical shape.
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Re: 14 lb. Honey Badger
Reply #11 on: July 26, 2017, 11:42:24 AM
I have a friend who is on staff and has seen 15s and 14s go down the lane. I told him I was interested in this ball, and I throw 14. He assured me that they look pretty similar going down lane. I have not seen it for myself, but I trust him enough to believe him. I still plan to get one at some point, but I have some other balls I want to get first.

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Re: 14 lb. Honey Badger
Reply #12 on: July 26, 2017, 01:22:59 PM
Well, the Orbit Extreme had a very elliptical core. Very X ish. The cores in both the HB and the Link were much taller. When that tall core finds it's PSA, it changes direction much quicker than the elliptical shape.

Agreed, 110%
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Re: 14 lb. Honey Badger
Reply #13 on: July 26, 2017, 01:24:11 PM
I have a friend who is on staff and has seen 15s and 14s go down the lane. I told him I was interested in this ball, and I throw 14. He assured me that they look pretty similar going down lane. I have not seen it for myself, but I trust him enough to believe him. I still plan to get one at some point, but I have some other balls I want to get first.

Very interesting. Thank you. I am surprised, but accepting, at this point in time.
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Re: 14 lb. Honey Badger
Reply #14 on: July 26, 2017, 01:47:15 PM
Well, the Orbit Extreme had a very elliptical core. Very X ish. The cores in both the HB and the Link were much taller. When that tall core finds it's PSA, it changes direction much quicker than the elliptical shape.
Agreed, 110%

You know, now that I compared the 2, I'm ever more excited to drill one up!!
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