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900 Global New Releases
« on: May 17, 2016, 07:14:35 PM »
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2016, 11:29:51 AM »
Is the drift above the special ops? I'm confused because it seems so but how since they are same surface prep but ops has a higher cover? Is it core?
It depends on what you consider above. As for price point, yes the Drift is above the Special Ops. The reason is because the Special Ops is using a proven core that has been out for quite some time now. As far as I know the Drift has a new cover/core combo and will be in the tour preferred series. Now as far as ball reaction, I will not know until I throw both of them. I expect the Special Ops to be a pinch smoother than the Drift.
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2016, 11:45:23 AM »
Tri-color pours are going down at the S.A. plant as of the Dream Big Pearl and Respect Solid. Tri-color pours on Escape and Great Escape. 900 Global cores as well.

That's interesting. Is any 900 Global stuff being poured in Utah now? What about vice versa with Storm/Roto Grip stuff being poured in San Antonio? I haven't paid very close attention to the situation but I never really had a clear picture of what was going on.
900 Global can pour some Storm balls, and Storm can pour some 900 Global balls. Don't quote me on this, but here goes. Storm purchased 900 Global in middle of 2014. What has happened is Storm wants 900 Global to be a separate company. For instance, Storm staffers can throw Roto-Grip and vice versa. 900 Global staffers can't throw Storm or Roto Grip, but we can throw AMF300. In 2014 900 Global came out with their first releases that had a "Storm" cover which were the Moxie and Dream. These were poured in Utah. As far as I know, I believe the cores used were partially designed by Storm as Storm wanted to be able to easily use a core mold in house for these releases. So everything below the Dream and Respect line is poured in San Antonio. Last time I checked, 900 Global is now using the same urethane and additives that storm uses. So basically all of our equipment has the chemicals that Storm uses. But remember we are different so our covers are different. I know for a fact that Nick Siefers (900 Global Engineer) has designed all of the cores used in our new releases including the new Adaptor core. I also am pretty sure that we have upgraded our manufacturing to include tri color bowling balls as of the Respect Solid and Dream Big Pearl. So now I am pretty sure what you are seeing is Storm/Roto Grip as one and now 900 Global/AMF300 as one. What I always find interesting is just how different the reactions are from each company with no overlap. I believe AMF300 stuff will fill in gaps in the 900 Global lineup and vice versa. Hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any other questions.
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2016, 12:23:15 PM »
Thanks! That's very informative and covers everything I was wondering about.

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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2016, 12:28:24 PM »
Thank you Curt for being an informative staff member. You peaked my interest a little bit with the Drift when I was just ignoring it originally

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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2016, 05:14:22 PM »
Is the drift above the special ops? I'm confused because it seems so but how since they are same surface prep but ops has a higher cover? Is it core?
It depends on what you consider above. As for price point, yes the Drift is above the Special Ops. The reason is because the Special Ops is using a proven core that has been out for quite some time now. As far as I know the Drift has a new cover/core combo and will be in the tour preferred series. Now as far as ball reaction, I will not know until I throw both of them. I expect the Special Ops to be a pinch smoother than the Drift.
The Drift is using the Hula core which has been used recently in the Rip/It. Previous to that it was first introduced in the OMG Pearl (Jun 2011), then in the Black Mamba (Feb 2012). So it was first designed and used in AMF balls. The numbers on the Drift are almost identical to the Black Mamba with the Drift having a weaker cover. The Rip/It was a great ball to move in with and open the lanes up as the lanes opened up. Definitely had a good backend motion. So definitely not a new core design. As for the cover, to my knowledge we haven't seen a S62 hybrid. The Clutch Pearl had F62 pearl. So cover wise, I am intrigued.
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2016, 09:32:41 PM »
I was always under the impression that the Sxx-Covers were representative of their strength within the lineup. Not that S70 from 4 years ago is the same S70 from this year's pours. Is this true?

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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2016, 09:36:44 PM »
Is the drift above the special ops? I'm confused because it seems so but how since they are same surface prep but ops has a higher cover? Is it core?
It depends on what you consider above. As for price point, yes the Drift is above the Special Ops. The reason is because the Special Ops is using a proven core that has been out for quite some time now. As far as I know the Drift has a new cover/core combo and will be in the tour preferred series. Now as far as ball reaction, I will not know until I throw both of them. I expect the Special Ops to be a pinch smoother than the Drift.
The Drift is using the Hula core which has been used recently in the Rip/It. Previous to that it was first introduced in the OMG Pearl (Jun 2011), then in the Black Mamba (Feb 2012). So it was first designed and used in AMF balls. The numbers on the Drift are almost identical to the Black Mamba with the Drift having a weaker cover. The Rip/It was a great ball to move in with and open the lanes up as the lanes opened up. Definitely had a good backend motion. So definitely not a new core design. As for the cover, to my knowledge we haven't seen a S62 hybrid. The Clutch Pearl had F62 pearl. So cover wise, I am intrigued.

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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2016, 10:13:52 PM »
bill, you are correct. I totally forgot. Definitely a Columbia 300 throwback.
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2016, 11:16:13 PM »
bill, you are correct. I totally forgot. Definitely a Columbia 300 throwback.

None the less keep the throwback cores coming!  Everyone likes em!
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2016, 06:57:19 AM »
On the downside, they just discontinued quite a bit. Personaly I'll miss the Respect and Dream...
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2016, 09:24:57 AM »
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2016, 11:38:41 AM »
I do apologize if I have mislead anyone. I did not notice that the core in the drift is from previous releases. Cover is new. I am hoping this ball gives us a different look than what we have had in our Tour Series lineup. If I can be of any other help please let me know. Should be receiving the new stuff I believe in the next two weeks.
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« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2016, 11:46:05 AM »
Curt you didnt mislead lol, it's allllllll good
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #44 on: May 25, 2016, 06:53:03 PM »
Wanna see the ball motion of the high end stuff. I k ow what the other stuff rolls like!

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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2016, 08:37:32 PM »
I do apologize if I have mislead anyone. I did not notice that the core in the drift is from previous releases. Cover is new. I am hoping this ball gives us a different look than what we have had in our Tour Series lineup. If I can be of any other help please let me know. Should be receiving the new stuff I believe in the next two weeks.

Curt, its all good. I can't wait to get back and start drilling. Until then I will have to rely on everyone here to hear how they roll. I will truly miss the Dream and Respect series. Hopefully we hear some reports back from some of the guys that go to nationals later.
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