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never had a 900 global
« on: July 01, 2017, 07:13:09 AM »
Been bowling a long time...never had a 900 global ball...The Honey Badger has my interest BUT 900 has thin shells on their balls and I'm Leary of that. Thin shell means less longevity? Are Global 900 balls balls dying out quick? For whatever reason Stom balls die fast on me and I clean my stuff after every game.
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Re: never had a 900 global
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2017, 07:36:06 AM »
The Honey Badger has my interest BUT 900 has thin shells on their balls and I'm Leary of that. Thin shell means less longevity?
Not so with the Honey Badger. It is a true 2 piece. Solid cover to the core.

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Re: never had a 900 global
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2017, 08:25:34 AM »
I've been using 900 Global for 10 years. Never had a ball die on me. Covers may be "thin", but I'm still using equipment from 2009. And yes, the HB is all cover and core.

If you've never tried a 900 Global ball, you would be missing out if you didn't try a Black or Covert Ops. It's the weightblock that started it all.

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Re: never had a 900 global
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2017, 08:35:36 AM »
I've had that problem with storm balls,especially the higher end balls.Those balls would die off in 40-50 games for me. I've had a few 900 global balls and didn't notice that. I've switched to mostly Motiv balls because those never seem to lose the luster .The shells on most motiv balls aren't that thick either

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Re: never had a 900 global
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2017, 12:56:19 PM »
Been bowling a long time...never had a 900 global ball...The Honey Badger has my interest BUT 900 has thin shells on their balls and I'm Leary of that. Thin shell means less longevity? Are Global 900 balls balls dying out quick? For whatever reason Storm balls die fast on me and I clean my stuff after every game.
Thanks for the input..

Zero relationship between the thinness/thickness of the coverstock's shell and the ball's longevity.

Longevity is more closely related, in general, to both the degree to which you remove the oil regularly& quickly AND the degree to which you maintain the surface roughness/smoothness, than to any other singular factor.

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Re: never had a 900 global
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2017, 01:11:11 PM »
You are always spot on with your analysis, so informative 😊

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Re: never had a 900 global
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2017, 01:37:37 PM »
Been bowling a long time...never had a 900 global ball...The Honey Badger has my interest BUT 900 has thin shells on their balls and I'm Leary of that. Thin shell means less longevity? Are Global 900 balls balls dying out quick? For whatever reason Storm balls die fast on me and I clean my stuff after every game.
Thanks for the input..

Zero relationship between the thinness/thickness of the coverstock's shell and the ball's longevity.

Longevity is more closely related, in general, to both the degree to which you remove the oil regularly& quickly AND the degree to which you maintain the surface roughness/smoothness, than to any other singular factor.

Perception rules.

you can maintain the surface but that doesn't guarantee the balls longevity and balls absorb oil faster than your turn on the lanes. Heres where I differ, the more pores the faster and more oil is absorbed by the cover. Would a thinner shell not relate to the pores being clogged quicker?

Either way, I'd say take the chance. If the ball strikes then it strikes, there have been plenty of balls that have been out that absorb oil fast and mellow out. IMO, you shouldn't be looking for out of box reaction unless youre on staff or just buy that many balls. Its not realistic and you cant repeat the box surface prep. Know youre own surfaces and what works well for you as well as experiment in practice. 
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Re: never had a 900 global
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2017, 02:24:14 PM »
Been bowling a long time...never had a 900 global ball...The Honey Badger has my interest BUT 900 has thin shells on their balls and I'm Leary of that. Thin shell means less longevity? Are Global 900 balls balls dying out quick? For whatever reason Storm balls die fast on me and I clean my stuff after every game.
Thanks for the input..

Zero relationship between the thinness/thickness of the coverstock's shell and the ball's longevity.

Longevity is more closely related, in general, to both the degree to which you remove the oil regularly& quickly AND the degree to which you maintain the surface roughness/smoothness, than to any other singular factor.

Perception rules.

you can maintain the surface but that doesn't guarantee the balls longevity and balls absorb oil faster than your turn on the lanes. Heres where I differ, the more pores the faster and more oil is absorbed by the cover. Would a thinner shell not relate to the pores being clogged quicker?

Please don't twist my words. I never said or implied that a maintained surface will guarantee a ball's longevity.

Let me try to be more precise, if I must:
If you clean the ball regularly, as soon as possible, with as good a cleaner as possible, after using a ball AND if you maintain the surface, as often and as properly as possible, keeping as close to your optimum surface, as possible, then your ball will stand as good a chance, as possible, of having a consistent ball reaction for as long as is possible, given you haven't gotten a bum coverstock, to start with.

One of the thinnest series of shells was the 900Global coverstocks that used Phil Cardinale's invention, the Soaker chemical added to the 900G coverstocks. Many were as thin as 3/8" and they lasted a good 200 games before they needed an oil extraction. So, no, thinness doesn't necessarily lead to more rapid oil clogging, as far as I am concerned.

If that were rtue then ball with no filler would last a lot longer than those with and that has not proven to be the case. Some coverstocks just absorb oil less quickly than others.
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Re: never had a 900 global
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2017, 02:25:41 PM »
A thicker cover can absorb more oil and disperse it better then a cover with less material. Same principle as a thick sponge compared to a thin one. But if the cover of the Honey Badger is like the Quantum...all cover and core...then I'm getting it.

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Re: never had a 900 global
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2017, 02:43:57 PM »
You should get it because it's going to be the sleeper hit of the year.

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Re: never had a 900 global
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2017, 01:22:29 PM »
Never had any longevity problems with the 900 Global balls I've had as long as you maintain the shell. Anyway I have only heard good things about the Honey Badger, cool name, cool color, and a true 2 piece ball...what's not to like? lol The new Inception DCT is another cool option as well...and after seeing Chris Barnes roll one on the PBA Oklahoma telecast with an IT thumb, I think I'll be picking one up to fill my heavy oil gap in my bag.
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Re: never had a 900 global
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2017, 01:36:09 PM »
A thicker cover can absorb more oil and disperse it better then a cover with less material. Same principle as a thick sponge compared to a thin one. But if the cover of the Honey Badger is like the Quantum...all cover and core...then I'm getting it.
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Re: never had a 900 global
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2017, 02:31:46 PM »
Barnes was using a regular slug. I know, I'm disappointed too.