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Fire Hawk
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
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The strength of a bowler’s arsenal is dependent on the versatility of the balls carried and how well each ball complements the other. When a bowling ball combines versatility, high performance and a lower price, every bowler can afford to be fully prepared for a variety of lane conditions. AMF first combined high technology and an exceptionally low price with the Hawk and TiHawk. Now AMF introduces the perfect complement to both balls, a ball that delivers more backend hook and excitement at an extraordinary value, the Fire Hawk. The ball features AMF’s latest new cover stock, Micro-Flex Particle. This shell greatly enhances the backend motion of the original Hawk core without giving up the mid-lane control factor, which is critical in maintaining good ball reaction today. The Fire Hawk is designed to work as a complement to the Ti Hawk and original Hawk and to make it affordable to improve any bowler’s arsenal. For the first time user of a high performance ball, the Fire Hawk delivers versatile strength and excitement at a lower price. For the experienced, high performance bowler, the Fire Hawk offers the opportunity to add to an arsenal for less expense than expected. The specifications are: Core: Multi Piece with Dual Torque Blocks; Cover Stock: Micro-Flex Particle; RG: 2.580; Flare Potential: 5.5” .049; Hook Rating: 8.5 Bowling This Month; Length: 6.0 Bowling This Month; Finish: 1000 Compound; Weights: 12, 14-16 lbs.; Color: Fire Hawk Red with White logo fill.

 

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Re: Fire Hawk
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2001, 11:00:49 AM »
Had it for a month and used it everywhere.

Drilling specs:
Label leverage, pin stacked 4.5x4.5 from PAP
3" pin, 2 3/4 top weight
Polished with Black Magic to give that 'New ball finish' hmmmmm

Conditions in laymen terms.
1. Head Oil, semi stripped backends a little OB, out of bounds outside 5 tourney conditions.
Ball goes long and hooks very hard, this ball hits really hard and slaps everything all over the place
When I hit the OB, it seemed like it wanted to come back but just didn't, but because the ball has such a great coverstock it trys and trys and almost makes it back.  Great carrying ball

2. Heads semi used, backends a little oil logged.
Ball goes past the heads pretty good, of course like any ball though if you hit it a little too much on this conditions it will still bump up high.  On the backend, the hook/snap becomes a long arc but still great hitting power, left a few corners but much better than expected.

3. Synthetic conditions freshly manicured.  
Ball goes looong and snaps so hard, almost over under but not the textbook type over under which causes you to pull your hair out.

Overall look
This is a ball that hits and snaps and hooks and does your laundry if you ask it to, or at least you can pay someone to do it with the money you will win with this one.  This is definitely not your dad's AMF.  They have gone so far in so little time, it is quite impressive.

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Re: Fire Hawk
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2001, 10:35:01 AM »
This pearl Particle ball is able to get down the lanes without a problem and then unleashing on the backend.  I would say that it is more of a rolly reaction, rather than skip/snap.

I watched Chris bowl with it on 2nd shift.  He was able to send it from 17 to about 5 and get the ball back.

The layout on this ball was the pin under the ringer finger and the CG about 2" from the center of the grip.  No surface changes were made.

On a scale of 1-10, I would get the ball a 7.5.  It is ball to get down the lane without a problem and give smooth but strong backend reaction. It is not as aggressive pearl and some of the other balls on the market, but great bang for the buck.

If you have any questions, please email me at Bill@buddiesproshop.com

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Re: Fire Hawk
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2001, 01:09:03 AM »
Drilled mine with the pin 3 3/8 from Axis, CG 2 inches directly below Pin, drilled extra hole 6 3/4 inches from center of span through CG. Basically a Rev Leverage drilling. I also polished it with Ebonite Extender polish.  Well first of all I tested this ball out of the box, and it was way too strong, basically I needed much more head oil, so i had to polish it...Once I did that this ball gave me the look i wanted. This ball gave me more area once the heads had broken down and carried the oil down. Recently i have used this ball on two different types of synethic lanes. One is a basic blocked up on 10 house shot, on this the ball was too strong in the backend and i was forced to play too deep of a line to carry. The second was on a fairly even across the gutter shot, with a lot less backend. I was using my red pearl messenger before I drilled this ball, but now with this firehawk, I can open up the lane a few more boards of area. I just shot 300,814 with it this past week. So tend to think it helped improve my carry somewhat (oh this is also a VERY tough carrying house, so that is why I can say this ball has helped considerably). I will be drilling another of these balls with a 5x5 drilling sometime this week, and i report back on how that ball reacted.

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Re: Fire Hawk
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2001, 02:57:42 PM »
I purchased this ball to give me recovery when nothing else in my arsenal will.  Had it drilled with the pin just below the fingers with the CG kicked out to the right for max length and snap.  This ball fits the bill very nicely.  Turns the corner sharper than my EMB, and give great length through the heads.  Obviousely, oil and carrydown mellows out the reaction, but it still provides enough angle to carry consistently on this shot as well.  Short oil or very clean backends usually puts this ball back in the bag, but as I said, it is great for backend snap, and a great value as well.  Good job AMF!

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Re: Fire Hawk
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2001, 12:27:05 PM »
MY PROSHOP MANO'S PROSHOP IN PASADENA TX HAD JUST RECEIVED THIS BALL AND
MANO WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO TRY IT OUT IT WAS TOO HEAVY FOR HIM I WENT
IN TRYING TO UPGRADE TO THE PARTICLE AGE OF BOWLING THIS BALL WAS DESIGNED FOR LENGTH AND RECOVERY AT A MODERATE PRICE AND YOU WILL GET BOTH THE PIN ON MINE IS
ABOVE MY RING ABOUT 2.5 INCHES CG KICKED OUT JUST A LITTLE KINDA LEVERAGE WEIGHT
OUT OF BOX FINISHED TO HARD HAD TO SHINE IT UP JUST A LITTLE TO GET EXTRA LENGTH THIS PAST WEEK HAD 765 & 783  Good ball for the money with great hitting power

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Re: Fire Hawk
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2001, 09:40:39 PM »
I got this ball for when I needed something to go long on a deep line and still recover.  I sure got what I asked for in the AMF Firehawk.  

Ball specs:  15.1 lb, Pin out 2.5 inches, 2.5 oz top weight.

The ball is drilled with a 5 3/8 x 3 3/8 pattern, with the pin directly above the bridge, and the CG kicked out two inches.  Weights are 5/8 finger and 7/8+ side.  

Talk about a ball!  I took it out on a fresh league shot (38 feet buff to 42, semi-dry out side boards).  Lined up on 18 and threw over 20 out to around 8, and once it hit the backends the pins disappeared!  The ball made a spectacutlar move on the fresh shot.  A very hard snap to the hole, and impressive carry.  Very pleased at this point, but that was not what I got the ball for.

Went out on the same shot after a 3 game league session, and found a pair where 8 of the leagues biggest crankers squared off.  Absolutely no oil outside 15 anywhere, and the heads were shot.  Scooted over to around 39 and 40 (yes, off of the lane) with my feet and rolled over 5th arrow out to around 15, and it somehow skidded to its original breakpoint, flipped, and recovered to pound the pocket.

Exactly what I wanted from the ball - good length, outstanding recovery.  And for the price, how can you go wrong?  9.5 of 10 for Columbia/AMF.  Can't wait for the Super/C!  

Keep 'em coming!

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Re: Fire Hawk
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2001, 09:28:05 PM »
*drilled 5 x 5, cg in center of palm, and a small balance hole on axis (only had 1 oz top)
*left in box condition
*right handed power stroker

I have had this ball for 2 months now.  It is a much stronger ball than I had originally thought it would be when I bought it.  I was pleasantly surprised with the strength the Firehawk has being a mid-priced ball.  I have used the Firehawk on a variety of conditions, but it found it's home in my aresenal for when there are fresh backends.  It seems to carry the light pocket hits very well for me becasue it just slaps the pins all over the place.  When playing a deep inside line trying to hold pocket, I had some problem with the 10 pin, but if I am able to send the ball out, I normally carry very well.

Some conditions i have used the Firehawk on:
*Wood lanes w/gaurdian 25'.  An out-of-bounds outside of 7.  I played a line of 17 at the arrows out to 9 at the break-point, but if I missed to the out of bounds, you could tell this ball wanted to come back.  The coverstock on this ball just wants to keep coming.

*Sythetic lanes, fresh shot Oiled 35' buffed to 42'.  This condition was where this ball reacted the best for me.  I played 14 at the arrows out to 5 and the Firehawk would just some roaring back.  I tried taking off some speed and moving deeper to 5th arrow and the Firehawk still made the turn back to the pocket.

*Wood lanes, long flat oil.  This was the one lane condition that I really struggled with this ball on.  I am just learning to play a down and in shot and I did me best to play straight down 2nd arrow.  When I did manage to hit what I was throwing at, I had some serious problems with  carry, but I figured I would since the ball was still revving up, not yet into a roll.

*Synthetic heads, wood backends with carrydown.  This condition really changed the looked of this ball from a skip/snap type reaction into a long arc.  It still had quite a bit of energy left at the pocket and still threw the pins around.  Seemed liek every shot I threw there was a messenger flying.

Overall, I am quite impressed with this ball and it is a great option off of my Menace Tour Edition.  I use the Menace tour to read the lanes and if I need something a little stronger, I can pull out the Firehawk.  I've been a long time reader of this site and do not like the 1-10 rating system, so I will stay away from that.

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Re: Fire Hawk
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2001, 09:23:49 PM »
I got this cheap with about 10 games on it from my pro shop guy.  He plugged and drilled it for me with the pin directly above the ring finger and the CG close to th center of the grip.

I wanted a ball with alot of backend and I most certainly got it.  I regularly throw on wood lanes oiled to 42' with stripped backends and this is definately a great ball for my house.  I've been using it since the PBA Long Island Open in mid November.  1st time I used it was on oil 42' buffed to 48' with dry boards outside of 5 on either side.  Whe I kept this on the oil it rolled out very nicely and picked up the pace early enough to get some great momentum hading onto the deck.  

I wentback to that house (AMF Syosset lanes in New York) this past weekend for a tournament and aveaged 195.6 ove 8 games with that ball.Well, I used it for 7 games, the last one I pulled out my old Storm Blue Thunder)

Long story short, this is a great ball for any volume of oil, as long as there's some good, fresh backend this ball will come fromany angle and knock 0 back.

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Re: Fire Hawk
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2002, 10:09:28 PM »
A great light particle ball for medium-oily lane conditions.
It's the first ball out of the bag for league after lanes have just been oiled.
Ball info: 15lbs.,4oz., Pin: 2-3", Top Weight: 3oz.
           Pin is 1" right of ring finger, CG is 2 1/2" directly below it.
           Ball is polished with Ebonite Extender Polish for more length and
           hitting power in the backend.  Also, can stay in play longer.
House Lane Conditions:  Brunswick-synthetic heads with the rest in wood.  Oiled out to 40-42ft.
Me:  Tweener, medium ball speed, medium hook.
Had my highest game in league (245) with this ball and also helped me to win in No Tap Tournaments.
Performs well on full wood and full synthetic lanes.  Rolls strong and hits hard!  More of a continuous "arcing" motion to the pocket.
Goes in the bag when "splits" start coming.  Good balance of power and control.
Great ball and a great value.  Cool looking ball too w/ nice logo and pearlized maroon color!  Go AMF!!!

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Re: Fire Hawk
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2004, 08:38:55 AM »
I recently purchased this ball online and was quite pleases at the way this reacted on a fresh house shot.  I have my firehawk Driled with a 3 3/8 byb 3 3/8 staced leverage drill I left the ball at its out of the box finish and had games of 180 202 209 for a 591 series on my friday night league.  The down side to this ball is that it does not like the carry down as when there is considerable carry down I seem to have difficulty keeping in on the right side of the lanes.   But overall I must say that this ball is a good bu indeed
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