I looked at my review list and realized I never posted a review for this ball, so here we go. Got this ball about a year ago, drilled with the pin over the ring finger for backend and it definately has backend and then some. Surfaced is polished to get it to go longer. Play between 3rd and 4th arrow, getting it out to about 5-8, depending on the shot (fresh or carrydown) throwing it about 15-16 mph, good rev's. Ball hits hard, but has left a lot of 7 pins for me. When I start leaving several 7's I make a slight adjustment wether it is speed or feet and ball carries 7's all night. Shot many a good games with it, but it has since found the extra bag in my trunk due to other balls taking its place. However, I could pull this ball out and hit it like it was brand new anytime. 9 out of 10 in my book, great reaction, lots of backend.