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VP2
on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
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AMF300 has beefed up our mid-performance line with our new VP2, featuring SPT (Super Particle Technology). The proven light bulb core with a Titanium Nugget provides the VP2 with a heavy midlane roll with a very controllable break point, while the SPT coverstock effectively combats the slicker lane surfaces and oils used in today's bowling centers. To complement the AMF300 Titan, we've given the VP2 a more vibrant color, making the Titan and VP2 the best pair in bowling.

VP2 Specs

Hook Rating
40

Core Technology
Inverted light-bulb core with Titanium Nugget

RG
2.50

Differential
0.030

Flare Potential
4

Coverstock
SPT (Super Particle Technology)

Finish
Polished


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Re: VP2
Reply #1 on: March 04, 2005, 12:24:21 PM
FINALLY I GET TO REVIEW THIS NEW BALL! WELL ALL I GOT TO SAY IS THAT ON OILY, NOT FLOODED OR EXTREMELY LONG PATTERNS,TO LIGHT OIL THIS BALL WILL REPLACE AND OUT HIT EVERY BALL IN YOUR BAG. PERIOD. IT MAY NOT COVER AS MANY BOARDS AS SOME BALLS BUT ON A MEDIUM OIL PATTERN THIS BALL WILL TURN PINS INTO SAWDUST.THE WAY THIS BALL WILL CARRY LIGHT HITS IS INSANE. EVEN ON BURNED OUT LANE CONDITIONS IT WILL KEEP HOOKING CONTINUOUSLY AND NOT ROLL OUT.I HAD MY BALL DRILLER DRILL MINE FOR EARLY HOOK, I WISH I KNEW MORE BUT IT'S HARD TO GET A HOLD OF HIM, BUT I'LL POST IT AS SOON AS I CAN. FOR THE MID LEVEL PRICE THIS BALL SHOULD BE IN EVERYONES BAG.  WELL THIS IS A UPDATE AFTER ABOUT 20 GAMES, THIS BALL IS THE BEST BALL I'VE EVER THROWN! I'M GETTING MORE USED TO IT AND WHAT IT CAN DO,THE ONLY ANNOYING THING ABOUT THIS BALL IS IN HEAVY OIL IT TENDS TO PUSH OUT A LITTLE LIKE MOST PEARLS DO BUT THE SPT COVERSTOCK REALLY READS THE DRY WELL AND GIVES YOU ROOM FOR ERROR. BUT IT STILL DOES EVERYTHING THAT I SAID AND MORE, YOU HAVE TO GIVE THIS BALL ROOM WHEN THE LANES OPEN UP OR IT'S SPLIT CITY GOING HIGH ON THE HEADPIN. WHEN THE LANES OPEN UP IS WHEN THIS BALL REALLY SHINES, STARTS REVVING IN MID LANE AND STILL GETS A REACTIVE REACTION TO THE POCKET, I ALMOST FEEL SORRY FOR THE PINS! I'M TELL'IN ALL AMFORCERS YOU WANT THIS BALL IN YOUR BAG, YOU NEED THIS BALL IN YOUR BAG CAN YOU HANDLE THE TRUTH! HEY THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD NICKNAME FOR THE BALL, THE TRUTH. SERIOUSLY THOUGH, IT'S A MUST HAVE FOR YOUR ARSENAL, I GAURANTEE IT WILL REPLACE BALLS IN YOUR BAG.        AMFORCE RULES!
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Re: VP2
Reply #2 on: March 07, 2005, 11:37:28 AM
The more I throw this ball the more I like it!

My 15lb VP2 had about a 2 3/4" pin. I stacked the pin and cg at 4" form my pap.

While there are other AMF balls that will hook plenty more than this one, I do not know of anything I've thrown that handles wet/dry better than this ball.

It also is a great ball for conditions that are not wide open. It worked great at the ABC in Baton Rouge!

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Re: VP2
Reply #3 on: March 12, 2005, 09:45:01 AM
AMF300 is on the verge of releasing their newest performance ball, the VP2 in February.  AMFs literature discloses that the VP2 features their SPT (Super Particle Technology) cover stock along with a proven light bulb core with Titanium Nugget, made popular in the largest chunk of balls manufactured at the Columbia 300 plant in San Antonio.  This combination normally provides a heavy midlane roll with a very controllable break point, while the SPT cover stock is supposed to grip on today's slicker lane conditions.

The core of the VP2 is an inverted light-bulb core with titanium nugget.  The Green/Red/Black VP2 with Neon Yellow/ Neon Green Engraving comes out of the box with a polished finish.  The Radius of Gyration is 2.503 while the Differential is 0.030, well within the new differential maximum set by the new United States Bowling Congress.

The VP2 is made to roll heavier on medium oiled lanes and provide power and control for most bowlers.

I used this ball, drilled by Matt Yablonsky at Matts Pro Shop in Rapids Bowling Center in Niagara Falls during this last week on several fresh oil patterns, none of the patterns being real built up with oil in the middle of the lane.  The VP2 was mapped out with favorite layouts; a  3 X 4 1/2 drilling with the CG kicked out, and the pin underneath the middle finger for a straighter, more rolling-out reaction.   An extra hole at 4:30 just under the axis point took a good chunk of the side and thumb weight left in the ball after drilling.  This layout is responsible for a few honor scores and a couple of tournament titles Ive won before I injured my shoulder a couple years ago and had to stop using 16 pound bowling balls for the ever-popular 15 pounders.

The initial use of the VP2 came at Tonawanda Bowling Center after the first game of league bowling as the oil on the lanes were carried down quite a bit.  Since the pattern was shorter than whats normally laid down in my Friday night mixed classic league, the carrydown kept the VP2 in line as I was playing from the fourth arrow to between the 10th and 15th board at about 50.  I managed to roll a couple of 230 games to complete the series; however, it was not the go-to ball in the first game as the pattern was too short and too fresh for particle.  I did like how the VP2 recovered when I threw it right of the track, and how the ball stood up as it rolled out toward the pocket.  I liked how the VP2 did not over-hook and maintained its smooth reaction given the layout.

The following day in the Buffalo Beverage-Miller Lite All-Star Traveling League at Alden Lanes, the VP2 was my ball of choice in practice as the track was hooking, but the rest of the lane was pretty tight.  As I was able to maneuver the VP2 in the track until the track area and back end tightened up, the VP2 had to go back in the bag.  This is one of the first particle balls that Ive ever thrown that is better on drier lanes with a little bit, but not too much carrydown on the lanes.  That was proven in another league session recently when I threw the VP2 on a medium oil pattern with a little carrydown in the track area.  I used the VP2 for most of the series until the fronts burned up a little and the back end tightened up.

What may have kept me from maximizing the VP2 was the layout of the ball.  I got what I wanted in terms of the layout, but I normally use this layout in a medium strong ball.   Had I laid the VP2 with a stronger pin placement, I might have maximized the power of the VP2 without giving up control.  What I did get out of the VP was great control, but Im still waiting to find a pattern which I can utilize the power of the ball.  Im sure its out there; Ill find it, and Ill whack the crud out of the pins with the VP2 because I love the way it rolls for me.
 
Id love to try another VP2 with a stronger layout because I could get more of what I was really looking for from the VP2 the power and control that the VP2 is noted for.

Once in a while we as bowlers place roadblocks on bowling balls when theyre mapped out against the recommendations of the manufacturer.  Sometimes layouts cause a ball to give bowlers a look that is not expected; sometimes good, sometimes not.   However, I feel pretty rejuvenated and ready to take on an entirely new attitude with my league and competitive bowling activities.  The AMF300 VP2 will play a significant role on medium to wet-dry patterns as I continue rebuilding my bowling ball arsenal.

Props go out to Bill Supper from AMF300 for the complementary issue of the VP2 and Matt Yablonsky from Matts Pro Shop for his continued drilling expertise and for attempting to soften up my head in regards to the layout.  Thanks again to Rapids Bowling Center and Tonawanda Bowling Center proprietor Len Pimm for providing the lanes and the oil patterns to try the VP2 out on.
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Re: VP2
Reply #4 on: April 10, 2005, 06:43:54 PM
I drilled this ball up for one of the shop guys.  This bowler is a Left handed bowler that doesn't hook the ball a huge amount.  Likes to go more up the boards.  I drilled this ball with the pin 5 inches from his PAP (Positive Axis Point) and the CG 4 1/2 from his PAP.  

The first pattern this ball was tested on was an over walled house shot, and the ball tended to be too much over/under.  It had too much backend for the super dry outsides, and couldn't recover from the heavier oil in the middle.  With the strong backend that this ball had in the dry, we decided to put a weight hole in the ball to calm down the backend reaction.

The next shot the ball was tested on was 37 foot sport pattern with Medium-Light Oil.  The ball reaction was clean through the fronts, picking up a strong midlane roll, and then a strong arcing move on the backends.

I think this ball will be great on Medium-light Oil shots.  The particle pearl coverstock is clean through the fronts, and the Valor core gives the ball a strong arcing reaction when the ball makes the move.  I think this will fit in good for bowlers looking for a less aggressive particle pearl.

Any questions, please email me at Bill@BuddiesProShop.com
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Re: VP2
Reply #5 on: April 13, 2005, 01:02:19 AM
I ordered this ball but when it came in it had only 1 - 2 inches of pin and I don't like balls like that.  So my friend bought it instead.  I saw him throw this ball in the 2nd and 3rd game of our league which had clean backends on a christmas tree pattern and it barely covered 2 boards and I feel that I'm being generous when I say that.  I don't know if it was the short pin or the fact that my friend is a tweener but I do know this:  THANK YOU GOD THAT I DIDN'T BUY THIS BALL!!!!!  It has been a long time since I purchased a AMF ball and it looks like this streak will continue!

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Re: VP2
Reply #6 on: May 05, 2005, 11:39:50 PM
I know I posted a crappy review of this ball even though I hadn't bowled with it but that's why you have to bowl with a ball yourself.

       I got one myself for 50 bucks on ebay.
Ball description:
gwt. 15lb, 4oz.
twt. 3oz.
pin - inches 3

Drilling:
Pin above ring finger w/ cg kicked out and balance hole near PAP

       This ball is really smooth with a nice arc at the pocket.  I played 15 out to 5 standing on 30. First game was a 235 with a split in first frame(played it too tight)  The shot was a second shift pattern with carrydown and lots of oil on the outs (5 to the gutter).  I got great carry but what new ball doesn't give you that.  Anyway I have to recommend this ball to anyone who is a cranker.  You can plant and get all your hand into this ball and watch this baby get back and blow the rack.  Will post after I get back from the hamtram next weekend.

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Re: VP2
Reply #7 on: December 06, 2005, 04:05:13 PM
2nd ball owned.

First ball terminal velocity.

I bought this ball from buddy who works at the bowling alley.
I have nothing but positive comments on this ball. Keep in mind this is coming from a non-experienced bowler - but this ball does exactly what i like. It heads straight and right before it gets to the pins it hooks in. (please excuse my lack of bowling terms and terminology). My second game with this ball, i bowled a 288 (10 strikes in a row - only to blow it in the tenth). My current average in league is a 147 (its going up but hey, I started at 119 AVG).

I like this ball alot. it does not have the hook my terminal velocity has - but for a new bowler, it is easier to control and use. And the hook is different, it goes long before doing anything.

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Re: VP2
Reply #8 on: March 30, 2006, 06:39:04 PM
I have to agree with many reviews below.

This ball drilled pin below ring...about 5 inch pin to pap and avery slight kickout on a medium pin ball which added a touch of thumb weight...is pretty smooth and even yet gets decent length on very light oil volumes.

Our shot an extreme wet dry and at first this ball and this drilling were a touch flippier than I wanted.  Drilled thumb a touch deeper to take out a smidge of thumb weight and then put a small hole up a little bit and inside my VAL about 1/2 inch and about 2 inches deep.  This always seems to add a little smoothness for me.

This is now the smooth ticket....good length and then a rounded archy backend but strong enough to drive thru some moderate carrydown.

A sort of pretty ball from a distance...don't look at the colors too close up...but at a distance and on the lane...looks real good.

This is the new and improved superbeast(same core) for today's wet dry conditions.  You won't regret owning this under owned big hitter!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS I have a funny feeling I'll be able to update this review with some sweet scores.!!!  Very similar to the much loved Columbia panic yet somehow smoother(pearl particle) but maybe stronger...(more flare potential slightly).  Just as good length(maybe more).
PPS a guy at our center vacillates between this (when hooking) and a polished Vertigo(when not) and has some real nice results(but I always see a little carrydown at this center as the pattern is run at 5:00am and freshened with a 16 foot short run before league).
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Re: VP2
Reply #9 on: June 04, 2006, 11:18:24 AM
Got this one a couple months ago.  They seem to be clearing them out.  They can be found on that popular auction site for less than $20, and a popular online site is currently offering them for $69.99 with free shipping.

Anyhow, I have this with a 3" pin drilled with pin at 1 o'clock, pin above and to the right of the ring finger.  

This is a much stronger ball than I thought it was going to be.  I picked it up because I wanted a weaker ball for medium to medium light oil.  The house I am bowling in recently cut the oil back for summer leagues.  

This particle ball has early roll, starts in the midlane, and makes an arcing pattern to the pocket.  I stand 26 or 27 and throw about 8, and this ball will smash the pocket.  

I must say this ball does leave alot of ringing taps for me - lots of solid 8, solid 9, solid 10.  More so than other balls I play.

I like it alot, its just not the ball I was after whan I picked it up.  Great ball for medium conditions.