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Amoyensis

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Need help with the new house shot
on: October 12, 2017, 02:49:22 AM
Hi all,
I am new to this forum and I hope I can get some help here.
I am bowling since March and normally have an average of 150-160. Also did a 235 once. Now I have a few balls, but I am struggling very hard with the new houseshot, which is 44ft Big Ben:
http://patternlibrary.kegel.net/PatternLibraryPattern.aspx?ID=845

My current balls are:
- Brunswick Rhino Black Pearl drilled for "broken down housepattern" (pin up - length)
- DV8 Vandall Destroy drilled for "most house patterns" (pin down - max control)
- Storm Timeless drilled 4-4-2 (pin up)

My rates are:
Speed: ca. 15 mph
Revs: ca. 255
Axis Tilt: ca. 10
Axis Rotation: ca. 50-70

All balls are resurfaced to the original manufacturer's surface
Which of my balls would you recommend for the new house shot.
And which ball would you recommend for this type of lane?

Thanks in advance,

Amo

Luke Rosdahl

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Re: Need help with the new house shot
Reply #1 on: October 12, 2017, 07:13:05 AM
Rev rate is what's hurting you on the longer and heavier pattern.  It doesn't look like you really have anything that's going to help you dig through that oil and still pop on the backend.  Look at the Storm Sure Lock, big hook and strong on the backend. 
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LookingForALeftyWall

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Re: Need help with the new house shot
Reply #2 on: October 12, 2017, 08:06:40 AM
What is the lane surface?  Wood?  Synthetics - new or old? 

What is your ball doing?  Not hooking enough?  No miss room?

Without this info, not much anyone can suggest other than assuming you're not getting enough hook and drive into the pocket...

notclay

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Re: Need help with the new house shot
Reply #3 on: October 12, 2017, 09:41:51 AM

Big Ben is 44 feet, but all the volume is basically 10 board and inward.  If you're not getting enough hook, simply move outside with your feet and target and see if that helps.  The Vandal Destroy would probably handle some surface well.  Have the pro shop try it at 500/2000 and adjust as necessary.
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AlonzoHarris

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Re: Need help with the new house shot
Reply #4 on: October 12, 2017, 11:44:36 AM
That's a heck of a house shot to lay out. I would also be curious if they're wood or synthetics, and new or old.

Timeless and Rhino probably glide for days.

I think NotClay and Luke are working you down a good path on this one already.
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Re: Need help with the new house shot
Reply #5 on: October 13, 2017, 11:09:20 AM
Yeah I think I jumped the gun a little though.  These other guys have it right, like Lane said, move right into that friction and see what happens before spending $250 on a ball. 
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Amoyensis

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Re: Need help with the new house shot
Reply #6 on: October 16, 2017, 02:36:16 AM
What is the lane surface?  Wood?  Synthetics - new or old? 

What is your ball doing?  Not hooking enough?  No miss room?

Without this info, not much anyone can suggest other than assuming you're not getting enough hook and drive into the pocket...

Thanks for the response! I don't know it exactly, but I would say it is synthetic. And it is old. I am bowling in germany. The lanes here are far not so good as they are in the USA. Many experienced players, who already played in the USA, say that the lanes in germany are all just crap.
So what is my ball doing:
I start with the timeless, because it is my new ball and I want to practive with it.
In the beginning, the ball comes too hard, the 6 pin goes in front of the 10. So I start to move left with my eyes and my feet. After only(!) a few shots, the lane becomes super dry and so, the ball starts to overreact and misses the pocket. Sometimes I have luck and get a brooklyn strike. So I move more and more left.
After a few games, it is so dry, that I have to switch to the Rhino, which is specially drilled for length and dry/broken lanes. But the lane is so dry, that I have to start at Board 42 and throw between 3rd and 4th arrow. This already happens, when I play alone or with my wife. Now imagine how it is, when 4 players are playing on this. I already have the problems to find my line, when I play alone. But with 3 other players, I am totally f.... up :( One of the 1st league players, who I know, told me that already the rhino (the weakest ball) is still too strong for this lane. But we don't have much alternatives where I live...

Oh and all of my balls are 14 lbs
Last Edit: October 16, 2017, 02:39:33 AM by Amoyensis

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Re: Need help with the new house shot
Reply #7 on: October 16, 2017, 08:24:35 AM
My advice, when they dry up that much, is to "kill the hand" and decrease your rev rate substantially.  This will help you control the ball off the break-point.  In addition to that, LESS side rotation is also your friend, so try to use more forward roll, again to help control the last 1/3 of the lane. 

Put some extra polish on the Rhino and try those things.  The Timeless will probably be difficult to control based on what you've described, but with the above mentioned tweaks to your release your chances get better.  Good luck.
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