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USBC Lane Inspection Study
« on: April 27, 2017, 05:29:28 PM »
USBC Lane Inspection Study
Published on Apr 27, 2017

USBC will implement new requirements for lane inspections and will adjust specifications for new installations for the 2019-2020 season based on recent research conducted by the USBC Equipment Specifications and Certifications team.


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Re: USBC Lane Inspection Study
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2017, 06:06:05 PM »
Interesting.

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Re: USBC Lane Inspection Study
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2017, 01:24:10 PM »
I LOVED that Equipment Specifications and Certifications was my primary department of focus when I worked for the USBC PR team. The stuff these men and women study and the tests they conduct are just so fascinating to me!

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Re: USBC Lane Inspection Study
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2017, 01:56:12 PM »
There's a PBA telecast on youtube from the 80's?? that had a clip of Earl Anthony talking about the measurements/inspections and taping I believe.... I wish I remembered which tournament that was...

I think it was called, "behind the pins"??? or something like that...
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Re: USBC Lane Inspection Study
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2017, 02:44:03 PM »
There's a PBA telecast on youtube from the 80's?? that had a clip of Earl Anthony talking about the measurements/inspections and taping I believe.... I wish I remembered which tournament that was...

I think it was called, "behind the pins"??? or something like that...

not the one mentioned here but:

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Re: USBC Lane Inspection Study
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2017, 04:00:44 PM »
I see depressions in the lanes at almost every house that are way more than 0.040".  I know there are houses that haven't passed for years, but somehow they end up getting certified. 
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Re: USBC Lane Inspection Study
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2017, 07:19:39 AM »
That's because there's no accountability, it's a check box.  Associations used to have to turn in paperwork, now it's just click on the box, so a lot of associations don't even actually measure anything anymore.  Just because they're tightening the tolerances doesn't mean anything will actually change because it's just another expense for the center.  These things need to be enforced.  This is why sanction fees should be $25+ a year so we could be able to pay for people to take care of this kind of stuff.  People whine and cry about what they're not getting for their money all the time, but it's kind of hard to do anything on 10 bucks a year . .

I see depressions in the lanes at almost every house that are way more than 0.040".  I know there are houses that haven't passed for years, but somehow they end up getting certified.
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Re: USBC Lane Inspection Study
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2017, 07:32:55 AM »
Trying to get people to associate paying more money with a house doing more to ensure playing conditions are correct is unfortunately not easy.

Issue: In one house in our association, from 12-18 on the right side of the lane starting at the foul line to almost the arrows, boards came out of the lane. So what did the house do? At first, they put PUDDY in the lane and tried to put the boards that were warped and already came out of the lane back in....didn't last the night...so the house cleaned the filler/puddy out and put new boards in the lane....and NAILED THEM INTO THE LANE. You can clearly see nail heads sticking out. Small, but they are there. By the way, the "new boards" are not flush with the rest of the lane...so if you are right handed and happen to catch this pair, you either need to play outside of 10 to ensure you do not migrate into the problem area or you need to loft the ball to the arrows to miss that spot.

SO of course the bowlers complain....I would as well. But these are the same bowlers that do not want to pay a sanction, let alone more sanction money every year.

Truly, if the house does put in a new head (they have several sitting in the back), if USBC forced the house to do this, would the league bowler ever know? Probably not, because the USBC would go to the proprietor, tell him/her the lanes were not correct and the USBC would pull the house certification, so the house changes the head. To the league bowler, all they know is the house fixed the problem and would never know about the USBC intervention.

It is a perception issue. 

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Re: USBC Lane Inspection Study
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2017, 07:41:31 AM »
Well at least when people ask, "just what am I paying for?" at least there would be answers.  People right now aren't too sure what to answer, even though what they're doing right now is more than can be expected for $10 a year in my opinion.  Bonding prize funds, maintaining rules, keeping averages, and issuing membership cards is worth $10 to me . .

Trying to get people to associate paying more money with a house doing more to ensure playing conditions are correct is unfortunately not easy.

Issue: In one house in our association, from 12-18 on the right side of the lane starting at the foul line to almost the arrows, boards came out of the lane. So what did the house do? At first, they put PUDDY in the lane and tried to put the boards that were warped and already came out of the lane back in....didn't last the night...so the house cleaned the filler/puddy out and put new boards in the lane....and NAILED THEM INTO THE LANE. You can clearly see nail heads sticking out. Small, but they are there. By the way, the "new boards" are not flush with the rest of the lane...so if you are right handed and happen to catch this pair, you either need to play outside of 10 to ensure you do not migrate into the problem area or you need to loft the ball to the arrows to miss that spot.

SO of course the bowlers complain....I would as well. But these are the same bowlers that do not want to pay a sanction, let alone more sanction money every year.

Truly, if the house does put in a new head (they have several sitting in the back), if USBC forced the house to do this, would the league bowler ever know? Probably not, because the USBC would go to the proprietor, tell him/her the lanes were not correct and the USBC would pull the house certification, so the house changes the head. To the league bowler, all they know is the house fixed the problem and would never know about the USBC intervention.

It is a perception issue.
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Re: USBC Lane Inspection Study
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2017, 07:49:58 AM »
Agreed....well worth what we pay once a year.

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Re: USBC Lane Inspection Study
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2017, 07:57:23 AM »
Well at least when people ask, "just what am I paying for?" at least there would be answers.  People right now aren't too sure what to answer, even though what they're doing right now is more than can be expected for $10 a year in my opinion.  Bonding prize funds, maintaining rules, keeping averages, and issuing membership cards is worth $10 to me . .

This is a simple but excellent point!  +1
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