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ldkelleyb5

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Clean game definition
« on: September 04, 2017, 06:33:44 PM »
If you get 1 mark in the 10th, is it considered a clean game?  I'm fairly sure that if you get a spare and change in the 10th, it should be a clean game, but I'm wondering more about a strike, then, say, a 7 count, then a 2.

Just something I've been wondering about for some time, and everyone seems to have a different answer.
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Re: Clean game definition
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2017, 06:51:37 PM »
If you strike or spare on your first ball of the tenth, then it's a clean game the fill ball doesn't count.

But in thing's like clean game pots, it may depend on if they have their own local definition.

A USBC response to the question:
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You only have to get one spare or strike in the 10th frame to keep the game clean.

The "Bowler's Guide" defines a Clean Game as follows: A game with spares or strikes in every frame.

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ldkelleyb5

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Re: Clean game definition
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2017, 07:05:03 PM »
Ah, excellent, thank you.  That's what I was after.

I realize tournaments and leagues may have their own definition for side pots, but I was after the 'USBC' definition.

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Re: Clean game definition
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2017, 08:24:11 PM »
Had this discussion awhile back. I go by USBC, but I have seen all sorts of localn rules for pots.  Some even even require a strike on the count ball.

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Re: Clean game definition
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2017, 09:02:04 AM »
Had this discussion awhile back. I go by USBC, but I have seen all sorts of localn rules for pots.  Some even even require a strike on the count ball.
Had this discussion awhile back. I go by USBC, but I have seen all sorts of localn rules for pots.  Some even even require a strike on the count ball.

I've heard that as well.... Crazy

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Re: Clean game definition
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2017, 04:07:42 PM »
Some only call a 300 a clean game

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Re: Clean game definition
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2017, 05:31:22 PM »
USBC claim notwithstanding, I would be pissed at myself if I struck on the first shot, got count on the second and did not clean it up.  To me, it would CEASE to be a clean game at that point. 

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Re: Clean game definition
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2017, 05:52:50 PM »
USBC claim notwithstanding, I would be pissed at myself if I struck on the first shot, got count on the second and did not clean it up.  To me, it would CEASE to be a clean game at that point. 

I agree. In my mind it should be punch out, double + count, strike + spare, spare + count. If you strike firat ball and dont pick up spare or gutter fill ball i dont consider it to be clean

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Re: Clean game definition
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2017, 06:58:24 PM »
USBC claim notwithstanding, I would be pissed at myself if I struck on the first shot, got count on the second and did not clean it up.  To me, it would CEASE to be a clean game at that point.

 
Agreed. As a matter of personal pride, I wouldn't want credit.
 
For our clean series pot in our scratch league, you have to clean that last shot up to get credit for a clean game. It makes things a little bit more of a challenge, and provides more credibility to the accomplishment. Both good things.

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Re: Clean game definition
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2017, 08:16:56 PM »
Can leave count on last ball if middle ball is spare though?  Threw a 185 clean by that definition today (spare in tenth and 9 on last ball, of course) with my Hy-Road.  Sadly that is not my lowest clean game either. 
« Last Edit: September 05, 2017, 08:21:00 PM by HackJandy »
Kind of noob when made this account so take advice with grain of salt.

avabob

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Re: Clean game definition
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2017, 09:33:36 AM »
Glad to see there is do much integrity on what a clean game is.  I assume you guys don't count Brooklyn's either. 

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Re: Clean game definition
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2017, 10:26:57 AM »
USBC claim notwithstanding, I would be pissed at myself if I struck on the first shot, got count on the second and did not clean it up.  To me, it would CEASE to be a clean game at that point.

This is my viewpoint.  I PERSONALLY don't count X9- as a clean game.
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Re: Clean game definition
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2017, 10:46:43 AM »
USBC claim notwithstanding, I would be pissed at myself if I struck on the first shot, got count on the second and did not clean it up.  To me, it would CEASE to be a clean game at that point.

This is my viewpoint.  I PERSONALLY don't count X9- as a clean game.

This, I agree with.

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Re: Clean game definition
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2017, 11:04:01 AM »
USBC claim notwithstanding, I would be pissed at myself if I struck on the first shot, got count on the second and did not clean it up.  To me, it would CEASE to be a clean game at that point.

This is my viewpoint.  I PERSONALLY don't count X9- as a clean game.

This, I agree with.

My team also does a traveling $5.  Everyone puts up $1 at the start of the game.  Every game a new person starts with it (week 1 bowler 1 would start with it game 1, bowler 2 starts with it game 2, bowler 3 starts with it game 3.........then week 2 bowler 4 starts with it etc...).

For ANY open it drops to the next person, whoever is in possession of it at the end of the game wins.  Start with the $5 and have a clean game, you win.  YOU determine your fate with it.

X9- you will drop it in the 10th.........max penalty is the way it should be IMO.
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Re: Clean game definition
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2017, 11:31:33 AM »
For those who don't think a X9- in the tenth constitutes a clean game, would you return your 30 clean jackpot money at Nationals?  I personally feel X9- in the tenth is a clean game.  But I see I am in the minority here.