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Author Topic: C-(System) versa-max  (Read 13177 times)

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C-(System) versa-max
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
- Coverstock:  CFT Versa-Max Solid  Coverstock
- Color:  Black Solid  
- Hardness: 73-75
- Factory Finish:      500 Siaair Micro  Pad; Rough Buff; High Gloss Finish
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal
- Weight Block:  (14-16#)  Dual Flip I -  Block Symmetric
- RG max: 16#-2.579, 15#-2.592, 14#-2.608,  13#-2.625, 12#-2.648
- RG min: 16#-2.527, 15#-2.540, 14#-2.556,  13#-2.585, 12#-2.608
- RG diff: 16#-0.052, 15#-0.052, 14#0.052,  13#-0.040, 12#-0.040
- Average RG: 4.7 of 10
- Hook Potential: 135 (Scale 10-200)
- Length: 130 (Scale 25-235)
- Typical Breakpoint Shape: 90 Angular  (Scale Smooth Arc 10-Angular 100)
- Recommended Lane Condition:  Medium-Oily
- Description: CFT versa-max solid is our  newest breakthrough in Chemical Friction Technology. The CFT  versa-max solid coverstock uses a combination of all the CFT coverstocks  to create the  ultimate coverstock. By using less mechanical friction to produce hook,  the CFT versa-max solid  coverstock provides enhanced projection down the lane while saving axis  rotation for more  energy on the backend and through the pins.
The new Dual Flip I – Block symmetric core incorporates a top and  bottom flip block over a  centered mass. The centered mass creates stability while the dual flip  blocks keep the core  revving to the backend all the way through the pins for improved pin  action.
With its High Gloss Finish, the C•(System) versa-max skids  effortlessly through the front,  saving axis rotation for the backend with a strong continuous  breakpoint. The C•(System)  versa-max is the most versatile ball motion from fresh to extremely  broken down lane  conditions on light to medium-oily lane patterns.
At Brunswick, the unique core shape of each individual ball is used  for weights from 14 to  16 pounds.  This approach to lightweight ball engineering provides  bowlers with consistent  ball reaction characteristics across this weight range.  At 12 and 13  pounds, Brunswick uses a  generic core shape with a RG-differential that is close enough to the 14  to 16 pound shape so  the same drilling instructions can be used.

 

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Re: C-(System) versa-max
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2012, 03:48:43 PM »
I just got a chance to throw my new Versa yesterday on a burned up house shot.  This ball is drilled pin up 4x4 with a 2" pin buffer. It gave me easy length and a strong reaction on the back. While it was strong, with the carry down it made the corner and continued out through he 8-9 with authority. It isn't a sharp cornering motion or an arc motion. It is very deceptively smooth. While others had difficulty keeping the ball off the nose, this ball allowed me to play the track and still carry. When this ball flushed the pocket, I don't think I have ever seen pins get pulled off the deck as fast as with the Versa. Thanks to everyone at Brunswick on another fabulous piece of equipment!  I am looking forward to see how it reacts with fresh head oil and crisp back ends. I will post again when I get some games under my belt on the fresh.


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Re: C-(System) versa-max
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 10:58:11 AM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 40'     
 
Volume: ?

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):  Second shift    THS

 
COMMENTS

Likes:  The higher RG core and highly polished cover allow exceptional length. The solid cover is very predictable late on the lane, which is a HUGE asset. When the pearl reactives want to get "jumpy" this ball just grips the lane surface and does not let go. I love the carry percentage - especially the corners! Nice black color with gold logos, too.
 
To the average "Joe" this ball does not do anything fancy.  But to the bowler who wants to score and compete while playing a little closer to the friction it's going to be difficult to beat this ball.  In my opinion, this is the best of the entire C-System line and at a lower price point to boot!  Outstanding value.

Dislikes:  I left 2 ten pins all night. Maybe next week I will carry every one...

 
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Re: C-(System) versa-max
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 08:38:09 PM »
LANE CONDITION






Length:38ft

 

Volume:160ml


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):THS


 



COMMENTS





Likes:Hits well, gets through the heads really cleanly, and has a nice strong arcing motion on the back


Dislikes: Tends to be more for playing down and in, can miss the spot down lane occaisionally. 


 


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Re: C-(System) versa-max
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2012, 08:05:19 AM »
BALL SPECS

Pin Length:3-4

Starting Top Weight:2.5 top

Ball Weight:15

 
DRILL PATTERN

Pin to PAP:4 1/2

CG to PAP:4

X Hole (if there is one): No hole needed
 
 

BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate:400+

Ball Speed:18MPH         
 
PAP/Track:5 1/4, 1 1/8 up

 
SURFACE PREP

Grit:Box finish

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):
 

LANE CONDITION

Length:40
 
Volume:N/A      

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):THS

 
BALL REACTION

Length:Great Length

Back End:Controlled
 
Overall Hook:Medium overall hook

Mid lane Read:clean

Breakpoint Shape:smooth arch

 
COMMENTS

Likes:This ball is super clean through the front and middle part of the lane with a very controlled motion off the spot. I was able to play the track most of the night with this ball. I have used this ball on three different lane surfaces now and have scored well on all three. Wood, Brunswick, and AMF synthetic lanes. This ball will keep you from moving deep inside after the first game. This ball is going to be a great ball for most styles of bowlers. Brunswick has done it again with this ball, you wanted something that was long and strong now it's here!!

Dislikes: This really isn't a dislike more than a note, if you do have to get deep on a house pattern with a really big crown you will have to go to something a little earlier like the Nexus Pearl.

 
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Edited on 2/20/2012 at 7:09 AM

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Re: C-(System) versa-max
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2012, 10:33:33 AM »
LANE CONDITION






Length:39'      

 

Volume:23 ml.


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):kegel middle road


 



COMMENTS





Likes:drilled 4" pin up, no weight hole. box finish.   amazingly clean thru the fronts & first half of the midlane. nice later midlane rev & continuous arc off the pattern. this ball is perfectly named. versa.(versatile) very controllable & many styles will be able to use. i can't remember the last time brunswick had a ball in their lineup that rolled specifically like this one. just in time for all the big tournaments.


Dislikes: use it for anything but the extreme patterns & you'll love it.


 


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Re: C-(System) versa-max
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 10:43:11 AM »
LANE CONDITION






Length: Very long even when they dried out and very flippy out of the box

 

Volume: 37ml


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


 



COMMENTS





Likes: Wow is all I can say.  This ball hooks off the spot like no other. 


Dislikes:  None


 


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Re: C-(System) versa-max
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2012, 01:32:37 AM »
LANE CONDITION






Length:42 ft   

 

Volume:Medium   


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


 



COMMENTS





Likes: Drilled it 2.5 from PAP, CG on PAP, didn't need hole because of low top weight.  Decided to deviate from my normal 6 inch pin to try to create less aggressiveness from breakpint to pocket.  Funny, I haven't had a ball drilled this weak that tries its best to minimize out of bounds right.  We have a "don't throw the ball right of 10 down the lane" spot, and I have been forced to play further inside to avoid this spot.  This reminds me of my favorite benchmark ball, the DV8 Reckless, but is better with a higher oil volume. 


Dislikes: as with any benchmark ball type of reaction, has issues with 4 pin, 10 pin, 8 pin when moving deep inside.  A DV8 Too Reckless with 2000  grit is a great complement when this happens. 


 


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Re: C-(System) versa-max
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2012, 08:49:42 AM »
LANE CONDITION






Length: All types

 

Volume:


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):


 



COMMENTS





Likes: This ball gives great length, stored energy, and great down lane backend with continuation through the pocket.  I first used this ball on the cheetah pattern one with a pin down and one with a pin up.  I found that the orginal cover makes the ball very angular on the backend.  So with my pin under ball, I chose to alter the surface to 2000 by hand with a Siaar pad.  This gave me a much smoother look, and has allowed for a very predictible reaction.  The ball with a pin up drilled 70 x 5 x 30 is very angular and quick response to friction down lane giving me a very agressive look.  It reacts stronger for me than my Wicked Siege which I thought was a pretty angular ball.  I really think the appeal to this ball for all bowlers is its ability to get through the heads smoothly and with the strored energy down lane bow lers will see the strong hitting power of this ball.  I found this to be a closer ball.  If you bowl in tournaments where they have longer qualifing blocks or your bowl on pattern that has been broken down this ball gives you the versitility and the control to score.  Great ball when transition has occured.  I used this ball as well on medium league shot and I was able to use this ball from start to finish with great success.


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Re: C-(System) versa-max
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2012, 09:09:39 PM »
LANE CONDITION
Burned up Tournament Shot 
 
COMMENTS

Likes:  Nothing, well it's pretty.

Dislikes: Everything, this thing hooks out of the building for me.  I am not sure what happend with this but this thing hooked out of my hand and went dead left.  Outhooked my Reign Supreme and Pearl Cell.
 
 


I'd rather be golfing, but its tough under 12 feet of snow!!:cool

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Re: C-(System) versa-max
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2012, 09:22:11 AM »
BALL SPECS


Pin Length: 2.5"


Ball Weight: 16 lbs.


 


DRILL PATTERN


Dual Angle: 45 x 4" x 65


X Hole (if there is one): small hole on my PAP

 





BOWLER STYLE


Rev Rate:  Higher, between 370 and 410 rpm, aka Cranker


Ball Speed:  16.50 mph

 

PAP/Track:  5 3/8" over and 7/8" up with a high track


 




SURFACE PREP


Grit:  Box (500 Siaair Micro Pad, Rough Buff, High Gloss Polish)


Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):  Polished

 




LANE CONDITION


Length:  Multiple

 

Volume:  Multiple


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):  House and Sport


 



BALL REACTION (Out of 10)


Length:  7


Back End:  7

 

Overall Hook:  7
 

Midlane Read:  6


Breakpoint Shape:  6


 




COMMENTS


Likes:  How clean it clears the front part of the lane, and the smoooooooth reaction downlane


Dislikes:  NONE


 


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If you are looking for a smooth reacting ball, then the C*(System) versa-max is for you!  This ball has a very unique motion on the lane that no other ball currently on the market can copy.  It clears the heads with ease and when reaching the friction it makes a smooth transaction.  This ball doesn't jerk left when seeing friction, nor skate through carrydown.  Even though I have a strong dual angle drilling of 45 x 4" x 65 on it, I can play in one area of the lane longer because it doesn't over react.  This would be a good ball for fresh conditions, and is the definition of a benchmark ball.  It has such a good roll, I want to use it every match in league or every tournament.  I have used it for 12 games now in the past week and have left 5, 8 pins on pocket hits as well as shooting a 276 and 279 which included an 8 pin in the 6th frame.  The black color of the ball allows you to see the motion easier.  It can handle all volumes of oil and works good when the lanes transition.  If you need to smooth out the reaction a little more, you can take the polish off by using a 2000 Siaair pad.  I had an Anaconda with the same drilling, and this ball is much smoother at the breakpoint.  This will be the ball of the year for 2012!  I would suggest drilling the versa-max a little stronger than normal because of how smooth of a reaction it has downlane.

 

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Re: C-(System) versa-max
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2012, 03:29:40 PM »
The C System Versa Max is the newest installment in the C System line. The intent was to create a benchmark reaction. The C System line is taking over the Revolver line. The Versa's cover is using the best of previous C System balls. The ball is a solid shiny black. Looks absolutely great going down the lane.

 

I have 2 of these drilled. 35x5x75 with a hole on the PAP. This was drilled for medium type patterns. This one allows me to keep my anlges tighter and then to chase the oil in. This layout does have a point to where I need to put it away. I always know what this ball is going to do.

2nd one is drilled 65x4.5x35. This one allows me to open up my angles when there is a defined hook spot. Even with this layout it doesn't really flip on the back part of the lane. This is still very predictable on the back part of the lane. I can use this ball on the fresh and go straighter as well.

 

The Versa Max, is very versitale and very predictable. Which makes a great benchamrk ball. This ball really goes through the pins different than I have ever seen from a Brunswick ball. In the last 9 years the main ball I have thrown has been Brunswick, and the Versa is making its way to the top of my favorite list. 


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Re: C-(System) versa-max
« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2012, 12:40:07 AM »

 


Brunswick Versa Max


 


Bowler’s Stats:


Speed: 18.5 mph


Rev Rate: 400rpm


Axis Tilt: 10 degrees


Axis Rotation: 30-45 degrees


 


Ball #1 Layout:


45* by 5.5” by 45*


Tested first OOB surface but currently at 4000 abralon


 


Ball #2 Layout


45* by 4.5” by 80* with P3 hole


Tested first OOB surface but currently at 2000 abralon


 


Purpose:


The Versa Max is advertised to be the ultimate benchmark ball. With its higher RG core and solid coverstock, I knew it’d make an even better candidate for my benchmark ball due to my heavy forward roll. Ball #1 was drilled to be my true benchmark ball: the first one out of the bag at any tournament and always having a place in my bag. Ball #2 was drilled specifically for the USBC national’s pattern in that it would be a medium oil ball that starts up early and strong in the midlane with a smooth reaction off of the dry.


 


On 39’ medium volume THS:


Granted you can strike with anything on THS but WOW these things strike at will. With the out of the box surface, Ball #1 couldn’t miss. The clean cover and high RG core pushed the ball through the heads and the solid coverstock started reading the very last of the midlane and then the backend took over to shred rack after rack. I started practicing with a modest line over 3rdarrow and then began to play around more. I moved out to 2ndarrow and in to 5th. Regardless of where I stood and where the ball was sent, it went through the pins amazingly. Moving out to play 2ndarrow out to about 8, I just increased my speed and stayed more up the back of the ball. Doing so made the ball set up and read the midlane a little sooner but it did so in a more continuous manner so as to not overreact to the friction. If it wasn’t dead flush, this ball sent the headpin to take out anything left standing. When I got as deep as 5tharrow, the ball just kept cornering. There was almost no way for it to not get back to the pocket. The only way to not get it back to pocket was to completely miss it at the bottom. Now with my ball roll, 5tharrow is getting deep for me and where I like to play. Regardless, the Versa Max still maintained excellent ball roll and pin carry and was strong thoughout the entire pin deck. Didn’t leave a single weak 10 pin playing that far in. That alone makes it a keeper!


 


Ball #2 on THS wasn’t as flashy but got the job done equally well. No, it didn’t have all of the backend as Ball #1 but still had great carry across the lane. Obviously with a smoother shot shape it worked better from further out than Ball #1 but still held its own when getting in deep. Out of the box, Ball #2 was actually STRONGER off of the SPOT than Ball #1. However the change in direction was about 2 feet sooner and used more energy which didn’t allow for the same amount of backend. Overall, with the out of the box surface, Ball #1 hooked about the same amount as Ball #2 but did so a lot more on the backend.


 


I’m not a fan of polish unless the shot is extremely dry, so since my plan for these two were to be my benchmarks (#1 in general and #2 for nationals and other sport shots), I took the surface of Ball #1 to 4000 grit and Ball #2 to 2000 grit.


 


Ball #1 at 4000 grit made the THS look even easier than before (didn’t think that was possible) by smoothing out the overall motion but still keeping a lot of the recovery it had at the OOB surface. Ball #2 at 2000 actually decreased the overall hook for me on this THS and brought the breakpoint in about another 2 feet and really smoothed the backend out even. Although not normally ideal for THS, I knew it’d be perfect for when it really matters, the tough stuff!


 


43’ NCAA pattern #1 (3-4:1 ratio):


Bowling on this pattern made me fall in love with these two bowling balls. Everyone knows you can basically strike from anywhere on THS. But on this pattern, with both balls, I could strike at will from up the 2 board all the way into 4tharrow on the fresh. You aren’t even supposed to be able to play outside 8 on this pattern but the Versa Max still made it look easy out there because of the smooth roll off of the spot. From further inside the Versa Max, before changing surface, cornered a ton and gave me more miss room than anyone else at the end of the pattern. People literally asked “Are you sure that’s a Brunswick ball?”. This ball truly has the reaction shape like no other Brunswick ball you’ve seen go down the lane at the out of the box surface. Changing the surface to 4000 on Ball #1 and to 2000 on Ball #2 not only gave me left to right miss room, but also more front to back miss room thanks to the more steady move off the friction. Regretfully, I haven’t yet been able to throw these balls on the Nationals pattern, but the reaction shape I get from them after the surface change makes me more confident that these will be the balls to throw due to their ability to smooth out the pattern and to play more outside to start and just follow the pattern inside.


 


Final thoughts:


I’ll keep this simple. This is possibly my favorite ball of all time. If you are going to Baton Rouge, you NEED this ball in your bag. If you aren’t going to Baton Rouge, you STILL NEED this ball in your bag, PERIOD. GET ONE NOW!


 



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Re: C-(System) versa-max
« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2012, 04:59:33 PM »

 


BALL SPECS






Pin Length:
4 in






Starting Top Weight:  1.7 oz






Ball Weight: 15 lbs 6 oz











DRILL PATTERN








65 x 5 x 75






X Hole (if there is one):  7/8 2 inches deep halfway down VAL toward thumb.





















BOWLER STYLE




Rev Rate:
375 rpms




Ball Speed:17.5 mph








PAP/Track: 4 3/4 over 3/4 up




















SURFACE PREP




Grit:
500 with polish




Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): light polish over surface










LANE CONDITIONS








Length:
41 feet and 39 feet






Volume: first condition was moderate second condition was the USBC Nationals Pattern which I would say is less than moderate.




Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): House and Sport












BALL REACTION




Length:
long




Back End: smooth and continuous





Overall Hook: moderate




Midlane Read: late and strong



Breakpoint Shape: hard arc with lots of continuation

















COMMENTS







Likes:
The ability to control the breakpoint with plenty of continuation on the backend.  The fact that the ball will allow you to play almost any angle.





Dislikes: For me it is a little long when the heads are fresh but really comes into play once the breakdown period starts.


 


The C System Versamax is the newest in a successful line of C System balls that debuts at a lower pricepoint than all the previous balls in the C System line.  This ball offers maximum versatility giving you the ability to master almost any moderate volume lane condition with the right release, drill pattern and surface prep.  This ball is UNIQUE!  I have never thrown another bowling ball with the shape this ball offers.  The Versamax manages to be long through the front and read the back part of the pattern in such a way that is is strong but controllable.  Controllable balls usually pick up so early in the midlane that when the pattern breaks down and you have to move left they won't conserve enough energy to make the turn and finish.  The C System Versamax will allow you to move left and open up the pattern once the lanes do start to break down.  When my Lethal Revolver reads to early in the midlane the Versamax allows me to push past the burn spot on the lanes and still control the breakpoint with phenomenal carry.  I have also used this ball as a ball down option from my Nexus Pearl when it just plain hooks too much.  The Versamax will allow you to stay right a little longer when that situation arises, while still allowing you to move left and open up the lane as the pattern continues to breakdown.  This ball is all about control, versatility, and recovery at the back of the lane.  On the Nationals pattern in Baton Rouge this ball was my best look as the heads went away.  It continued to clear the front part of the lane with a predictable move on the backend during the transitional period and carry was really good!  It was also the go to ball of one of my team event partners that shot three good sets during the tournament.  This ball needs to be the go to ball for all bowling Nationals at the River Center this year and anyone that is looking for a versatile benchmark piece.  If this isn't ball of the year I will be very surprised!  The C System Versamax is the ultimate medium lane condition ball.  Do yourself a favor and C what the Versamax can do for your game!

 



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Re: C-(System) versa-max
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2012, 07:46:48 PM »
LANE CONDITION






Length:Multiple   

 

Volume:Multiple


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): Multiple


 



COMMENTS





Likes:I have to say that I disagree a little with my fellow staffers when they say this ball is smooth reactin.  I wouldn't say that.  When I think smooth, I think Original Inferno, Ultimate's, etc.  This ball isn't sideways at the breakpoint, but to me it has a pretty defined breakpoint.  I have mine drilled 50 by 5 by 30 no hole, and out of the box surface.  This ball is clean through the front with a very nice backend motion.  Compared to other Brunwick balls, I would put in in the shape and motion of a Pearl Fury, mabe a little cleaner and a little more backend. Unless I put a little surface on this ball, I don't know how much it will be the first ball out of my bag, but many times it will be the second one out, or a great second shift ball.  A plain black bowling ball is nice for a change as well.    This ball is really really good, especially at it's price point.

 

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