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spencerwatts

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Why has Brunswick retired its Rough Buff product?
« on: September 08, 2014, 04:35:38 AM »
I usually get my bowling accessories and supplies from BowlersDeal.com. But I noticed they've stopped selling Brunswick's Rough Buff product. Perusing the other places that I'm familiar with, BowlerX isn't selling it. BowlersMart is selling only the 32 oz. size. Bowling.com and BowlingBall.com still have both the 6 oz. and 32 oz. Then I went on Brunswick's website and guess what? It's not listed. Only Royal Compound and Royal Shine.

Anyone knows why has Brunswick retired this product?
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Re: Why has Brunswick retired its Rough Buff product?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2014, 06:17:04 AM »
Brunswick replaced the Rough Buff with a better product. The product is the Royal Compound. It is easier to work with and has a better formulation than the rough buff did.
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Re: Why has Brunswick retired its Rough Buff product?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2014, 07:49:53 AM »
Adam, what is the difference between the compound and the Ruff Buff.

Specifically does the Compound take the ball to about 1500 like the Rough buff?  A different grit?

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Re: Why has Brunswick retired its Rough Buff product?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2014, 08:02:39 AM »
Adam, what is the difference between the compound and the Ruff Buff.

Specifically does the Compound take the ball to about 1500 like the Rough buff?  A different grit?

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Luckylefty

I believe Royal Compound is 2500 as I have used it on my Violent Eruption.  I like the reaction I get from the ball with 2000 abralon with Royal Compound. 
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Re: Why has Brunswick retired its Rough Buff product?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2014, 08:26:57 AM »
Rough buff was about 2000 surface when applied, and the Royal compound is about 2500 surface when applied. The Royal compound doesn't clog the pores as much and creates a tackier feel. Also, royal compound is a brand new formula.
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Re: Why has Brunswick retired its Rough Buff product?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2014, 10:01:51 AM »
Adam, what is the difference between the compound and the Ruff Buff.

Specifically does the Compound take the ball to about 1500 like the Rough buff?  A different grit?

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Luckylefty

I believe Royal Compound is 2500 as I have used it on my Violent Eruption.  I like the reaction I get from the ball with 2000 abralon with Royal Compound. 

Maybe as you use it, you get something close to 2500 grit matte, but you really can't say RC will do that for everyone, with every ball. It's a very aggressive "compound". Remember it used to take balls from 220 grit to almost 4000 grit a few years ago, when Brunswick specified that Rough Buff as "the finish" for many of their balls

In my personal use I have seen VERY little difference between Rough Buff and Royal Compound. When applied by hand, over a base 500 surface, grit you can easily wind up around 2000 - 2500 grit matte finish. Use a spinner and slightly more pressure and you will wind up at 4000 grit easily. Start at 1000 - 1500 grit and a spinner, and you can, just as easily, wind up with a polished ball.

It is a very useful but very aggressive compound that allows you to get a wide variety of finishes/surfaces on a ball, but to say it IS 1500 or 2000 or 2500 is not only wrong, it does the compound a disservice. It is nowhere near that limiting; heck, its use is only limited by your imagination.
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Re: Why has Brunswick retired its Rough Buff product?
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2014, 12:59:23 PM »
Rough buff when correctly applied is closer to 4000 abrylon
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Re: Why has Brunswick retired its Rough Buff product?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2014, 01:52:41 PM »
At least for me, I've seen good ball reaction using Rough Buff on my Burgundy Ringer, Platinum Ringer, both Slingshots, my Meanstreak, as well as my ol' Track Sensor II. Hard to imagine that Royal Compound is better, but I do have a bottle of that and Royal Shine.
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Re: Why has Brunswick retired its Rough Buff product?
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2014, 09:11:08 AM »
As far as I can tell Brunswick is retiring all of its products as it has sold it's bowling business to AMF.

Let me add to that. AMF, is buying all of Brunswick's Bowling Centers. At the same time Brunswick is selling off their products division. They say they would expect the buyer to keep the Brunswick name since the brand is well known; but that is not a condition of the sale.
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Re: Why has Brunswick retired its Rough Buff product?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2014, 07:27:20 AM »
Not to start a pissing contest but, Brunswick is not retiring anything. The Royal Finishes were introduced well over a year ago. They developed a product they thought was better then the rough buff. I personally like the rough buff better and have stockpiled some.
As has been stated in their release, the products division will continue to release equipment thru the sale, if it ever happens

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Re: Why has Brunswick retired its Rough Buff product?
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2014, 10:02:03 AM »
I recognize the realities of trying to continue selling merchandise while selling off the business. "Business as usual" is always the response to "What now?".

I wish them well as I have used their equipment for 25 years - I like their policy of showing what cores they actually use in each weight of ball.

They will be missed.