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TWOHAND834

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Ball Dilemma Part 2
« on: October 24, 2014, 10:39:49 PM »
As an update to my original thread; I think this is what I am wanting and not sure Columbia has what I want which sucks as I really like the way their stuff rolls for me.  I am wanting something that is weaker than my Violent and Disorder but yet not have a flippy reaction on the backend.  My Violent is a skid/strong arc (not flippy) for if I have to get deeper as if I try to square up; I still tend to leave solid 9s.  The Disorder I have been fighting to get a reaction I like.  If I square up the cover is too strong and if I get deeper the core is too weak (lots of 10s).  I would like something that I can square up and play right in or near the track without the ball rolling too quickly or reacting too strongly at the breakpoint.  I have a Takedown drilled pin below the fingers but even a little too strong for squaring up.   

The Freezes seem too flippy but the gap between the Freezes and Scouts seem huge.  Really wish there was a ball in the lower end that was a higher RG but a diff in the .030 range instead of .05 (think Eruption Pro but lower end).  Kind of looking at the Gamebreaker 2 but worried the cover will be too strong to move right and square up.  For some reason I cannot bring myself to drill a Storm ball.  It is what it is.  Also may have thought about the Blur Solid but not sure how close it will be to my Violent and Disorder with that cover. 

Since my team won the first third; I would like to try a different direction for the second third and see how it goes.  I am thinking weaker overall and still not flippy.  I have a 300C Solid but have the pin at 2 inches from my PAP but with the high flare potential; it still flares a lot even with that pin placement.  If I dull the cover; it leaves flat 10s and if I add polish, the ball doesnt really have enough on the back with the oil volume.  SO.......looking for a ball between my 300C and Violent Eruption.
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drillbit

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Re: Ball Dilemma Part 2
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2014, 05:54:36 PM »
I've just laid out a Blur Hybrid(specs in profile), and I'm liking the backend; a fairly controlled motion, not exactly weak, but if I miss the release a bit, it kind of fades on the backend. Conversely, if I overhit it, it doesn't go left like it had been kicked. This is pretty much the same motion that BTM described.

As I've been struggling with overreaction on  the backend lately, this one has been great, so far(my first c300 since the merger, BTW).


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Re: Ball Dilemma Part 2
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2014, 03:11:49 AM »
I'm with bowlingman817 , I would go with the blur solid.

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Re: Ball Dilemma Part 2
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2014, 11:38:39 AM »
Didn't throw any myself, but watched EBI ball demo and came away impressed with Track SiC.  Didn't overreact in dirt or under in flood as house has lots of wet-dry from left to right.  Hard move on backend without being flippy.  Was a ball that I didn't even know about, but my son just picked up to try and it just found its way to the pocket with good carry.  He had it around 5-6 boards less than Gamebreaker II. 

Blur Solid is ball I've heard lots of good things about for weaker ball that doesn't skid-flip uncontrollably.

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Re: Ball Dilemma Part 2
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2014, 12:12:56 PM »
Thank you for all the responses guys.  Really appreciate it.  I had the same issue last night I always do.  Start off with a 288 with the Disorder.  After a double to start the second game, I go weak 10, weak 10, make a small move and left a 2 pin.  Put the ball up for something with more angle on the backend and went 2-8-10.  Meanwhile I had a guy on the other team with a high rev rate also using a Slingshot playing around 12-13 out to about 8 and whacking the hole with it.  I shoot 185 second game to his 230.  So now it is just a matter of convincing the wife to let me punch another ball or go through my closet of old stuff and see if there may be anything that I can plug and redrill to make it work.
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Re: Ball Dilemma Part 2
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2014, 12:25:43 PM »
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Thank you for all the responses guys.  Really appreciate it.  I had the same issue last night I always do.  Start off with a 288 with the Disorder.  After a double to start the second game, I go weak 10, weak 10, make a small move and left a 2 pin.  Put the ball up for something with more angle on the backend and went 2-8-10.  Meanwhile I had a guy on the other team with a high rev rate also using a Slingshot playing around 12-13 out to about 8 and whacking the hole with it.  I shoot 185 second game to his 230.  So now it is just a matter of convincing the wife to let me punch another ball or go through my closet of old stuff and see if there may be anything that I can plug and redrill to make it work.

Look thru your old Visionary stuff for a weaker ball and do same as your opponent?
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Re: Ball Dilemma Part 2
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2014, 02:24:00 PM »
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Thank you for all the responses guys.  Really appreciate it.  I had the same issue last night I always do.  Start off with a 288 with the Disorder.  After a double to start the second game, I go weak 10, weak 10, make a small move and left a 2 pin.  Put the ball up for something with more angle on the backend and went 2-8-10.  Meanwhile I had a guy on the other team with a high rev rate also using a Slingshot playing around 12-13 out to about 8 and whacking the hole with it.  I shoot 185 second game to his 230.  So now it is just a matter of convincing the wife to let me punch another ball or go through my closet of old stuff and see if there may be anything that I can plug and redrill to make it work.

Look thru your old Visionary stuff for a weaker ball and do same as your opponent?

I am going to go back through and see what I have.  I may have an ace in the hole.  My father gave me his two bowling balls when he stepped away from the game a few years back.  Those two balls are the Purple Critical Mass and the Triton Elite Solid.  May have to see about possibly plugging those two bad boys up.
Steven Vance
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Re: Ball Dilemma Part 2
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2014, 11:46:35 PM »
C300 just dropped information on the deep freeze recently. I would also look into that ball. They raised the RG , and lowered the Differential for it.

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Re: Ball Dilemma Part 2
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2014, 06:51:21 AM »
C300 just dropped information on the deep freeze recently. I would also look into that ball. They raised the RG , and lowered the Differential for it.

That ball is very high on my radar.  Just hoping I can get by the next few weeks until it comes out.  Its about time they came out with something to compete with the Tropical Breeze.
Steven Vance
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