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C300 EPX T1
on: May 19, 2017, 12:53:39 PM
At the time of posting of this just noticed there are a couple of C300 EPX T1 for sale on ebay.  Neither is NIB but seriously thought about it for grins.  If I hadn't already bought a discontinued NIB Lane #1 SB solid oiler (couldn't find an EPX at the time) that I can hardly use I would. Still guessing EPX are getting harder and harder to find.  Tempting to own the only epoxy ball ever made (and USBC approved) even if it smells and could crumble in the ball return at any time and is about the highest maintenance ball you could ever own.  No other ball ever made and perhaps none to come skid less in heavy oil than this ball though (good or bad thing depending).  Guess I will enjoy my smooth rolling much more practical Burgundy Hammer as I don't really see floods that could use an EPX.  Plus have to believe unless you get a NIB the odds of getting a fairly dead ball are high with this ball being the oil sponge it is and how long it has been discontinued.
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Re: C300 EPX T1
Reply #1 on: May 19, 2017, 03:06:35 PM
A fool and his money.  Damn it was hoping somebody would buy the one so I didn't.  Too late (the other one is not a buy me now lol).  Might not even drill it (plugged currently) and hold it to sell or trade some time.  The only epoxy ball ever with how rare they are (quite good at googling and could not find this ball for a few weeks period) makes it worth something.  Hell might make it a display piece so I don't have to cry when the third game I throw with it, it cracks in half.
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Re: C300 EPX T1
Reply #2 on: May 19, 2017, 03:17:54 PM
EPX never got much love. A few years ago when Barnes was still with Columbia I remember him throwing an EPX quite a bit on the shorter patterns
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Re: C300 EPX T1
Reply #3 on: May 19, 2017, 03:21:07 PM
Story I heard was during competition (don't think was on TV though) he had an EPX come back in 3 pieces (by the ball guy lol).  People say otherwise but EPX probably did more to get C300 sold than anything else.  Disaster of a ball when released but fug it rare as hell and only epoxy ball ever lol.
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Re: C300 EPX T1
Reply #4 on: May 19, 2017, 03:29:56 PM
A long time ago, I heard it alleged that after the debacle materialized - poor sales, underwhelming performance, cracking issues, etc. - the powers that be intentionally cleaned out every EPX they could find from distributors. Then, they put them on a container ship headed overseas. However, once underway, that container full of EPX's was sent over the side and into Davey Jones' locker to keep them away from bowlers. This is all hearsay and probably patently false, but it's a funny story nonetheless.   

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Re: C300 EPX T1
Reply #5 on: May 19, 2017, 04:09:40 PM
A long time ago, I heard it alleged that after the debacle materialized - poor sales, underwhelming performance, cracking issues, etc. - the powers that be intentionally cleaned out every EPX they could find from distributors. Then, they put them on a container ship headed overseas. However, once underway, that container full of EPX's was sent over the side and into Davey Jones' locker to keep them away from bowlers. This is all hearsay and probably patently false, but it's a funny story nonetheless.   

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Re: C300 EPX T1
Reply #6 on: May 19, 2017, 04:15:44 PM
Kind of like what Atari did when they made 8 million or whatever ET game cartridges when they at that point had only sold 6 million Atari 2600s and the early 1980s recession hit.  They buried millions of them in a landfill in New Mexico.
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Re: C300 EPX T1
Reply #7 on: May 19, 2017, 07:26:06 PM
179.00 for a used ball is waaay to much. For a new one I can see it, but a used ball no matter what the ball doesn't warrant such a high price tag.

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Re: C300 EPX T1
Reply #8 on: May 19, 2017, 07:41:11 PM
Yeah I got the reconditioned, plugged one for $125+ shipping.  Little steep but really want this ball if for no other reason to see what it smells like lol.  I like weird ass unique discontinued and boutique like balls.  Need to stop before I start filling my closet.  Hope I don't see a Super Carbide Bomb online any time soon or Ebonite balls from the 90s made of Adamantium (edit: Acryllium lol) or NIB Faball stuff lol.
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Re: C300 EPX T1
Reply #9 on: May 19, 2017, 08:17:47 PM
There was also an EPX-A1.  Overseas release?
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Re: C300 EPX T1
Reply #10 on: May 19, 2017, 08:27:30 PM
Yep the a1 was an overseas release...same cover different core....there was also the amf project x which was an overseas release..the amf version of the epx....and amf also had the velocity epoxy...there was a blue one and a green one...the velocity epoxys were not usbc approved. 10-12 years ago an ebay seller was selling a bunch of the velocity epoxys really cheap like 50 bucks if I remember right.

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Re: C300 EPX T1
Reply #11 on: May 19, 2017, 10:20:50 PM
That EPX A1 looked sick and way cooler but I have yet to have seen an EPX A1 for sale anywhere on the internet in the last two years.  Of course my kanji sucks.  Also the EPX A1 or any of the other epoxy are not USBC certified right? (edit: the A1 is also USBC certified but still good luck finding one). 
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Re: C300 EPX T1
Reply #12 on: May 19, 2017, 10:22:31 PM
Yep the a1 was an overseas release...same cover different core....there was also the amf project x which was an overseas release..the amf version of the epx....and amf also had the velocity epoxy...there was a blue one and a green one...the velocity epoxys were not usbc approved. 10-12 years ago an ebay seller was selling a bunch of the velocity epoxys really cheap like 50 bucks if I remember right.

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Re: C300 EPX T1
Reply #13 on: May 19, 2017, 10:43:56 PM
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Paul Fig helped develop the Epoxy cover and the subsequent tweaking of the covers during his helm at AMF under Columbia Industries direction. At the Classic product trade show in Ft Wayne Indiana, Fig brought 3 Epoxy balls. I don't remember if any had a name, but they had the pro with them toss the ball to show the pro shop operators of in the work technology. Fig said the team could make the Epoxy ball hook as much as they want or make it go dead straight.

Right handed pro picked up the most hooking Epoxy and the ball was in the left gutter by the arrows. Pro picked up the middle of the road and struck playing 15 if I remember right. Pro picked up the third and the "longest" Epoxy and the ball never wrinkled and went 60 feet to the pindeck.

I do remember some Velocity Epoxies...might have been what Fig brought but they were never officially released in the US. Story I got was Columbia was in trouble and rushed the technology and also told Fig that Columbia was going to release the first Epoxy ball instead of one of the "sister brands" to make a big splash.

So after rushing the ball, the next issue was the pours. In testing, the pros and developers said the ball needed longer pins to work effectively. I personally know the person who wrote the drill sheet specific for the EPX. Unfortunately, the first few batches had mostly short pins. However, nobody wanted to dump the first few batches as blems or destroy them, so off to the market they went.

The final issue was the curing time. The Epoxy cover needed a longer curing time than  traditional resin covers. Add in the San Antonio heat during the summer when these were running off the lines and the Epoxy never quite cured right...thus why so many were brittle.

A folly of errors all around.

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Re: C300 EPX T1
Reply #14 on: May 19, 2017, 10:52:51 PM
A long time ago, I heard it alleged that after the debacle materialized - poor sales, underwhelming performance, cracking issues, etc. - the powers that be intentionally cleaned out every EPX they could find from distributors. Then, they put them on a container ship headed overseas. However, once underway, that container full of EPX's was sent over the side and into Davey Jones' locker to keep them away from bowlers. This is all hearsay and probably patently false, but it's a funny story nonetheless.   


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