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900 Global ICE Pads
« on: January 19, 2018, 04:52:46 PM »
What scale are the ICE pads referring to? The blue pad says 1500 grit, is that the old US ANSI/CAMI-p4000 FEPA or something different? Hopefully this makes sense, I’m trying to learn all this crap.

 

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Re: 900 Global ICE Pads
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2018, 06:03:46 PM »
You can read about the I.C.E. pads here:


ICE Surface Technology
Intense Contour Engineering Sanding Technique


https://www.900global.com/newglobalshop/?page_id=9289

The "I" pad is similar to the NEAT "E" pad and gives a surface about 2000 abralon in appearance.
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Re: 900 Global ICE Pads
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2018, 08:43:18 AM »
I'm kind of curious if they work well like the NEAT pads. Since the NEAT pads are discontinued, it's hard to find them since I would like to at least have a pad at 800 or 1000. Sia pads are what I've been using lately but they're ready to be replaced, too.

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Re: 900 Global ICE Pads
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2018, 06:42:14 PM »
I'm super curious about these too. The "C" pad is 2,000 and the "E" pad is 3,000, but they seem so much duller than Abralons with the same numbers.
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Re: 900 Global ICE Pads
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2018, 07:28:15 PM »
My abralon (have a few NEAT as well still) pads sure don't get much use since I stocked up on scotch brites and trizact (for the higher grits). Abralon and ICE are probably better for precise surface reproducibility but cost just isn't worth it for this house hack.
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Re: 900 Global ICE Pads
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2018, 08:33:10 PM »
My abralon (have a few NEAT as well still) pads sure don't get much use since I stocked up on scotch brites and trizact (for the higher grits). Abralon and ICE are probably better for precise surface reproducibility but cost just isn't worth it for this house hack.

Is there a web site to order Trizact from?

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Re: 900 Global ICE Pads
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2018, 12:19:14 AM »
My abralon (have a few NEAT as well still) pads sure don't get much use since I stocked up on scotch brites and trizact (for the higher grits). Abralon and ICE are probably better for precise surface reproducibility but cost just isn't worth it for this house hack.

Is there a web site to order Trizact from?

I ordered mine off of Amazon.   3k and 5k.  I just cut them into smaller pads for use on the spinner.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005RNGL9O/

https://www.amazon.com/Trizact-5000-Grit-Performance-Sandpaper/dp/B00LIXEWXO/

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Re: 900 Global ICE Pads
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2018, 12:29:32 AM »
My abralon (have a few NEAT as well still) pads sure don't get much use since I stocked up on scotch brites and trizact (for the higher grits). Abralon and ICE are probably better for precise surface reproducibility but cost just isn't worth it for this house hack.

Is there a web site to order Trizact from?

I ordered mine off of Amazon.   3k and 5k.  I just cut them into smaller pads for use on the spinner.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005RNGL9O/

https://www.amazon.com/Trizact-5000-Grit-Performance-Sandpaper/dp/B00LIXEWXO/

Thanks.  So if I had planned to use 3K Abralon I can use 3K Trizact instead and get the same finish?

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Re: 900 Global ICE Pads
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2018, 12:35:36 AM »
I went with the 6" discs which work as well.  Yes the 3k Trizact should give approximately the same finish as 3k abralon and pads last much longer. 

https://www.amazon.com/01459-Trizact-3000-Performance-Sanding/dp/B005CEHTEY/ref=sr_1_3

https://www.walmart.com/ip/3M-30662-Trizact-Hookit-6-Inch-P5000-Grit-Foam-Disc-1-Disc/357021271
« Last Edit: March 27, 2018, 12:42:01 AM by HackJandy »
Kind of noob when made this account so take advice with grain of salt.

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Re: 900 Global ICE Pads
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2018, 09:46:14 AM »
My abralon (have a few NEAT as well still) pads sure don't get much use since I stocked up on scotch brites and trizact (for the higher grits). Abralon and ICE are probably better for precise surface reproducibility but cost just isn't worth it for this house hack.
Do you know of any places online that still sells the the NEAT pads?

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Re: 900 Global ICE Pads
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2018, 10:51:57 AM »
My abralon (have a few NEAT as well still) pads sure don't get much use since I stocked up on scotch brites and trizact (for the higher grits). Abralon and ICE are probably better for precise surface reproducibility but cost just isn't worth it for this house hack.
Do you know of any places online that still sells the the NEAT pads?

As near as I can tell, all sources of NEAT pads have dried up, disappeared as is the case here:
https://www.bowling.com/products/discontinued/900global-neat-finishing-pads.htm?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqrCTtraZ2gIVh6_ICh0BVQX3EAEYASAAEgLlmfD_BwE

Since 900 Global has replaced NEAT pads with ICE pads, only someplace that has left over stock might still have them.
FYI a bowling friend has done some testing, comparing his old NEAT pads with the newer ICE pads and the ICE pads are at least as good as the NEAT, better in many factors.

The only difference I can tell is that there are less grit options with the ICE pads.
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Re: 900 Global ICE Pads
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2018, 12:27:32 PM »
charlest - I always enjoy reading your posts.

In your experience, and generally speaking, how do the ICE pads compare to the Abralon pads? Specifically, how is an ICE pad rated at 1500 compare to an Abralon pad rated at 1500?
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Re: 900 Global ICE Pads
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2018, 04:49:39 PM »
charlest - I always enjoy reading your posts.

In your experience, and generally speaking, how do the ICE pads compare to the Abralon pads? Specifically, how is an ICE pad rated at 1500 compare to an Abralon pad rated at 1500?

Thank you, sir.

They all use the same grading system, FEPA, so all the results should be very close, given the human element.

I have not yet tried the ICE pads; they are very expensive.
I have compared Abralon to their predecessor, NEAT pads. I understand the ICE pads are very close overall to the NEAT pads, from a bowling friend, whose opinion I trust implicitly.

Overall I prefer the NEAT (ICE) pads to Abralon for a couple of factors. Even though they are expensive, their cost, amortized over the life of the pad, becomes much less per use. I have gotten over 30 uses from one 4000 grit neaT pad. when I changed to a new one just because I was worried; it still seemed to work like new. I was amazed. That is cost effective!! Their appearance seems smoother and more consistent overall than Abralon and Siaair pads.

That is not to denigrate Abralon and Siaair, which remain excellent for bowling ball finishing, as far as I am concerned.

My one concern for the ICE pads is the limited range of grits for which it is available.
Neat and ICE pads seem to be almost as long lasting as Trizact.
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Re: 900 Global ICE Pads
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2018, 09:06:23 AM »
You're quite welcome, fellow good sir.

This is great feedback, charlest. I'm in need of some new pads, so perhaps I'll get my hands on some of the ICE pads.

If/when I get them, I'll be sure to provide my feedback!
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Re: 900 Global ICE Pads
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2018, 02:52:23 PM »
charlest - I always enjoy reading your posts.

In your experience, and generally speaking, how do the ICE pads compare to the Abralon pads? Specifically, how is an ICE pad rated at 1500 compare to an Abralon pad rated at 1500?

Thank you, sir.

They all use the same grading system, FEPA, so all the results should be very close, given the human element.

I have not yet tried the ICE pads; they are very expensive.
I have compared Abralon to their predecessor, NEAT pads. I understand the ICE pads are very close overall to the NEAT pads, from a bowling friend, whose opinion I trust implicitly.

Overall I prefer the NEAT (ICE) pads to Abralon for a couple of factors. Even though they are expensive, their cost, amortized over the life of the pad, becomes much less per use. I have gotten over 30 uses from one 4000 grit neaT pad. when I changed to a new one just because I was worried; it still seemed to work like new. I was amazed. That is cost effective!! Their appearance seems smoother and more consistent overall than Abralon and Siaair pads.

That is not to denigrate Abralon and Siaair, which remain excellent for bowling ball finishing, as far as I am concerned.

My one concern for the ICE pads is the limited range of grits for which it is available.
Neat and ICE pads seem to be almost as long lasting as Trizact.

+1 I agree, the NEAT pads do seem to last much longer than Abralon and Sia Air pads. The ones I have used I managed to use 20+ times and didn't feel worn out at all.