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2handedrook12

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Asymmetric Stacked Layout
« on: May 03, 2015, 07:30:33 PM »
I have a huge question. From my understanding, the pin and cg are a couple of the most important visual aspects when it comes down to a layout on a symmetrical core bowling ball. On a asymmetric, the mass bias takes the priority over the cg. We it this being said, the old school sta c ked layout had the pin above the ring and the cg lined up directly under it. I was wo b drink if the mass bias and the pin must be lined up on an asymmetric for the stacked layout. I understand the dual angle layout technique is more precise in the modern game, but I am not looking for that at the moment.
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kidlost2000

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Re: Asymmetric Stacked Layout
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2015, 09:33:01 PM »
Symmetric or Asymmetric the cg is only for static weight purposes and weight hole locations as needed. It has no affect on ball reaction dynamics.

Stack, leverage, negative and countless other old terms are based off a visual of the bowling ball not being thrown. We are smart enough to know that just because the pin/cg or pin /cg/mb are all stacked, that means nothing until someone throws the ball.

If 10 different people throw the same ball with the stacked layout (like a demo days), the actual layout will vary by each person because of the way they throw the ball, where each bowlers pap is will vary. This means the pin to pap, and mb to pap will be different for each. Maybe a little, maybe a lot.

Same ball, same "stacked" appearance, different bowlers. Dual layout, or any other systems is just a better way to find or create desired layout/reactions based off of the more important factors.....the bowler. They all do the same thing by different means.

« Last Edit: May 04, 2015, 08:07:24 AM by kidlost2000 »
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

BradleyInIrving

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Re: Asymmetric Stacked Layout
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2015, 11:11:31 PM »
Just like Kid said... It may look stacked but based on everyone's PaP (which is different for everyone) it isn't truly stacked..

2handedrook12

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Re: Asymmetric Stacked Layout
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2015, 06:30:48 AM »
With all this being said, I get that nowadays these terms are irrelevant. However, I happen to like the layout. perhaps I should get the dual angles for them.
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kidlost2000

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Re: Asymmetric Stacked Layout
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2015, 08:06:53 AM »
Find you pap and go from there.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.