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nhsmoker

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drilling cost
« on: July 06, 2012, 09:53:31 PM »
Just looking for some info here. I am looking to buy my first ball at the pro-shop near me and was wondering what should I expect to pay for drilling? I would just call and ask but they are only open like 2 days a week and I figured I could get a fairly general idea here. Do most pro shops charge less for drilling balls purchased through them. I had asked one of the local shop workers online about the price and he said $40-50 for drilling but am unsure if he was aware that I planned to purchase through them or not. Is this a reasonable price?
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Re: drilling cost
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2012, 10:14:17 PM »
Usually, when you buy a ball at the shop, drilling is included. If you are buying a ball elsewhere and having them drill it, depending on the material the ball is made out of (plastic, urethane, resin), the price might change. That being said, $40 isn't unreasonable, IMO. But it should be done right.
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Re: drilling cost
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2012, 10:25:15 PM »
Usually, when you buy a ball at the shop, drilling is included. If you are buying a ball elsewhere and having them drill it, depending on the material the ball is made out of (plastic, urethane, resin), the price might change. That being said, $40 isn't unreasonable, IMO. But it should be done right.

So do you feel if I buy there then $40 -$50 on top of the price of the ball is too much?

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Re: drilling cost
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2012, 10:28:28 PM »
Read what DOOM has written and I think you'll see your answer!
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Re: drilling cost
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2012, 10:52:27 PM »
If you buy the ball from the Pro Shop, drilling is included in the price of the ball.

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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2012, 11:16:51 PM »
Unless the pro shop does what is called ala carte pricing, which is showing you the price you will pay for the ball, then adding in the price for the drilling as a separate charge, then yes. If you tell us what ball it is, we can tell you if it's a good deal or a ripoff. If you're going in, and getting a plastic ball (TZone, White Dot, Maxim), and they're charging you $50 or $60, then another price on top of that, walk away. Tell us your region, and someone on here will help you find a good pro shop.



Usually, when you buy a ball at the shop, drilling is included. If you are buying a ball elsewhere and having them drill it, depending on the material the ball is made out of (plastic, urethane, resin), the price might change. That being said, $40 isn't unreasonable, IMO. But it should be done right.

So do you feel if I buy there then $40 -$50 on top of the price of the ball is too much?
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Re: drilling cost
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2012, 08:45:22 AM »
Unless the pro shop does what is called ala carte pricing, which is showing you the price you will pay for the ball, then adding in the price for the drilling as a separate charge, then yes. If you tell us what ball it is, we can tell you if it's a good deal or a ripoff. If you're going in, and getting a plastic ball (TZone, White Dot, Maxim), and they're charging you $50 or $60, then another price on top of that, walk away. Tell us your region, and someone on here will help you find a good pro shop.


I live in NH and the ball I am looking at based on their recommendations based on the lanes is either a dv8 reckless or too reckless. I will not say what pro shop because I am still unsure if their was confusion on where I will buy the ball. Not that in my opinion they will be doing anything wrong if there prices are too high it is a free market they can charge what they want and we as consumers can decide weather or not to purchase from them. Thanks for the help guys.
Oh on another note the price for either ball was $140-145 just not sure if that was drilling included or not
Usually, when you buy a ball at the shop, drilling is included. If you are buying a ball elsewhere and having them drill it, depending on the material the ball is made out of (plastic, urethane, resin), the price might change. That being said, $40 isn't unreasonable, IMO. But it should be done right.

So do you feel if I buy there then $40 -$50 on top of the price of the ball is too much?

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Re: drilling cost
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2012, 09:57:48 AM »
Well, since either of those balls are retailing for $115 online, you should ask them straight out "If I buy it from your shop, what is the price,as opposed to me buying it off the internet and just bringing it to them to drill. Pretty straightforward.
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Re: drilling cost
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2012, 06:06:35 PM »
you will pay more to bring in a ball and have it drilled.
figure 50 minimum
and then extra for finger/thumb inserts
might 70-80 by the time you are done

If you buy it from a pro shop, they should tweak it for you later at minimal or no cost
weight hole
surface
etc..

You should really let your pro shop select the proper ball for you based on your style, what conditions you will be on, lane surface, etc..

in order of importance or influence

ball core
ball cover
ball surface
drilling/layout

If you get the first 2 right, then the last 2 are minor adjustments and the purchase has a much better chance of being correct

Just because something works for your buddy or high average guy in your house does not mean it will be right for you
Ask a "qualified" professional shop, it will be a little more $$, but worth it by far

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Re: drilling cost
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2012, 12:35:28 AM »
you will pay more to bring in a ball and have it drilled.
figure 50 minimum
and then extra for finger/thumb inserts
might 70-80 by the time you are done

If you buy it from a pro shop, they should tweak it for you later at minimal or no cost
weight hole
surface
etc..

You should really let your pro shop select the proper ball for you based on your style, what conditions you will be on, lane surface, etc..

in order of importance or influence

ball core
ball cover
ball surface
drilling/layout

If you get the first 2 right, then the last 2 are minor adjustments and the purchase has a much better chance of being correct

Just because something works for your buddy or high average guy in your house does not mean it will be right for you
Ask a "qualified" professional shop, it will be a little more $$, but worth it by far

my .02 worth..................



Dave is spot on here with the pricing.  That's basically the same as what my shop charges me.  However, if you do a lot of business with the shop owner, you can get discounted prices in many cases (though I will still give extra when that happens because of consistently good service).

Although, there was something that I noticed at a big shop near me recently.  Without naming this shop, if you buy the ball from them and have them drill it, it is actually lower in price than just buying a blank ball.  A blank ball is charged as much as 40-70% more.  A perfect example is when I went in this place 2 years ago to look at some equipment.  A Storm VG Nano was running around $200 with drilling included.  However, if you did not want that shop to drill, fork over $270 for it...

Needless to say, I don't do business with that shop at all since they can't take you on a lane (not in a bowling center), and will not find PAP if you don't know it.

As for choosing equipment, I also agree with Dave that core and cover are important to look at first.  Surfaces can easily be adjusted, and layouts can always be tweaked.  But if a cover and/or core does not match up, it's not going to be pretty. 

A perfect example is when I bought a 505T from Dave several months back.  That core and cover were a perfect match for my game, and I knew everything I needed to before paying him.  It is still the benchmark for my arsenal.  All I did was talk with my shop to tweak a layout prior to drilling and it's been exactly what I was looking for.
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Re: drilling cost
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2012, 12:16:04 PM »
i wish I had a bought a few more 505t
the 503t has a higher dif and is a foot sooner according to Mitch
im sure the right guy can compensate for this.

Im also hoping the 912T is the real deal, the 900 series has been a bust so far

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Re: drilling cost
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2012, 06:29:09 PM »
just called a few minutes ago and asked them for the price on a too reckless drilled and was told $235  with two inserts. It seems like the price keeps going up. I am going to check at another shop but there are few in my area.

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Re: drilling cost
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2012, 06:34:12 PM »
40-50 is normal. My proshop normally floats prices around there.
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Re: drilling cost
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2012, 07:23:09 PM »
here is where you have the cost difference

check out this link  http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/DV8/10066/Too-Reckless.html

$115 and free shipping
but you will need to know the proper pin distance and top weight that is preferred
with thumb and finger inserts + tax, you are at 210 probably.

I would get a price point in mind, go to your pro shop and have them stick to it
chances are that a ball at a lower price point will be just fine
unless you have to have that ball.

I just drilled the black/silver cyclone, was under $100 drilled
awesome strong piece and at a great price

Most of us don't need that ultra high performance expensive ball for THS league play. Its the sport shots and tournaments that the higher talent level bowlers know how to use the upper performance (and upper price point) equipment.

One of the guys I turn to for help locally, he bowls regionals and lots of tournaments, knows alot about many brands, cores, covers, etc..
lays out his own equipment..
He absolutely swears that the pursuit and pursuit S are awesome and will have several of each one.
Would I like to get a few, you bet, but my sport league and THS league won't make me much better with that equipment, I'm 200 ish in the sport league and 225 in THS league.
More expensive equipment won't change that much if any..
My current track and some EBO stuff is fine and none of the equipment I bought was more than $150
 

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Re: drilling cost
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2012, 08:14:36 PM »
here is where you have the cost difference

check out this link  http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/DV8/10066/Too-Reckless.html

$115 and free shipping
but you will need to know the proper pin distance and top weight that is preferred
with thumb and finger inserts + tax, you are at 210 probably.

A few points the 235 was without a thumb insert and we have no tax here. That being said the price doesn't bother me if it is fair but I don't like the fact that the price has changed on me in less than a week. Being that this will be my first ball I have no idea about pin distance or top weight but figure this ball will not be perfect for me due to the fact that I need to develop proper mechanics and develop my own style.
maybe this isn't the right ball for me I have no idea I just told the pro shop that I wanted a ball that I can learn with that won't hold me back. I want something I can grow into not out of. They said it plays very well and where I don't have much of a style right now It would be as good as anything else.