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Sg7391

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Mass bias placement
« on: May 18, 2017, 02:00:11 PM »
Has anyone tried placing the mass bias in ones ball track???

 

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Re: Mass bias placement
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2017, 02:13:34 PM »
Usually that's a no-no, or not recommended at least, can lead to some undesireable reaction. 
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Re: Mass bias placement
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2017, 02:23:06 PM »
What does it do?

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Re: Mass bias placement
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2017, 02:27:44 PM »
Has anyone tried placing the mass bias in ones ball track???

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Re: Mass bias placement
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2017, 02:55:27 PM »
What does it do?

 
It considerably weakens overall ball reaction, at least in my experience. I tried it once and that was it. ITZPS has it correct.

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Re: Mass bias placement
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2017, 03:20:46 PM »
I tried it once with a Tomahawk Xplosion, ball was the bomb, but my pap at the time was 3*1.5, so there's that lol.
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Re: Mass bias placement
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2017, 03:45:14 PM »
For me, it tames flying backends. I first tried it on a Rule GP2 and shot well with the ball, so I always plucked that drill on subsequent mass bias balls when I decided to drill more than 1 of the ball.

As others have said, the ball will seem weak on the backends compared to other balls. It is a condition/user specific drill that some will love and most will hate.

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Re: Mass bias placement
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2017, 04:56:15 PM »
Hammer has a MB on track layout in their asymmetrical layout instructions.  They refer to it as a Label Layout "Smooth Arc".
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Re: Mass bias placement
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2017, 08:06:26 PM »
I had an El Nino X-It drilled that way.. One of the best balls I ever owned..

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Re: Mass bias placement
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2017, 09:31:23 PM »
Actually, this probably depends on intermediate diff. If it's low, probably doesn't matter. Now if it's .030, that may be a problem. I actually laid out another ball like this, and the intermediate diff was .008, and it was smooth and a big ball. Perfect first ball on the house shot. Moving in was suspect, but keeping it tight without jumping off the friction was key.
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Re: Mass bias placement
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2017, 12:05:28 PM »
If I remember correctly, that was the recommended drilling for the original No Mercy. I think of it as a label leverage drilling from before the days of mass bias.

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Re: Mass bias placement
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2017, 12:58:23 PM »
The no mercy was a z spin ball I believe.... been so long and so many balls ago.  Putting the mass near the track lengthens the hook zone and tends to make an asym act more like a sym.....smooths out the transition from hook to roll.
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Re: Mass bias placement
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2017, 08:03:25 PM »
It's on some drill sheets. EBI I believe depending on your specs, typically, on average I was told it can smooth out the reaction, midlane and backend. 
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