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lefty50

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Change span or pitch?
« on: September 01, 2017, 08:06:43 AM »
Working with my PSO, who has been a big help, but I'd like to incorporate feedback  from the group please. 

I have a 0/0 thumb slug with very little bevel that, although fairly comfortable, tends to have me losing the ball early once in a while no matter what I do. As an experiment, I've drilled another slug using 1/8 forward pitch. Now I've started to hang up in the ball on about 70% of shots. Pulling my fingers out a little helps. The ball definitely feels more solid on my hand, but it's almost like I've gone too far with the small 1/8 adjustment. I know that the 1/8 forward makes my span seem longer.

I already tried increasing bevel slightly on the 1/8 forward. It's not bad, definitely in the right direction, but not as solid on my hand and once in a while slips. I want to keep that solid feeling since it leads to a relaxed release.

What's the next thing to try?

- Make a change on lateral pitch instead to hold the ball longer
- Go back to zero and reduce the bevel
- Adjust span down to accommodate the 1/8 pitch

What have you found to be most successful in your testing?

As always, thanks in advance
L50

 

JustRico

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Re: Change span or pitch?
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2017, 08:50:59 PM »
He doesn't wish for truth...only his truth

I've written two books but that means nothing cause I make sh*t up ask the other guy...

So are you appointing me Einstein? Just checking in case I get accused...
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Re: Change span or pitch?
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2017, 08:54:51 PM »
He doesn't wish for truth...only his truth

I've written two books but that means nothing cause I make sh*t up ask the other guy...

So are you appointing me Einstein? Just checking in case I get accused...

I was just trying to show levels of knowledge, but whatever works...

JustRico

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Re: Change span or pitch?
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2017, 09:11:55 PM »
It was said pretty much to tongue in cheek
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Impending Doom

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Re: Change span or pitch?
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2017, 09:26:56 PM »
It was said pretty much to tongue in cheek

I know, Einstein.

lefty50

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Re: Change span or pitch?
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2017, 09:31:30 PM »
Doom, give it a rest. I  open a topic,  talk about threes options, and it degrades into this. Good example of why I don't post much here. Again, feel free to put me on your ignore list... Please. The rest of us are having a good conversation... Go away brother.
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JustRico

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Re: Change span or pitch?
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2017, 09:33:18 PM »
Doom don't forget this is lefty50reviews...
Can't stand when anyone goes against him...
Lefty you may choose giving it a rest...quit trolling our conversation
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Re: Change span or pitch?
« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2017, 09:44:59 PM »
Too bad Rico and Doom are correct.....for lefty

Impending Doom

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Re: Change span or pitch?
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2017, 10:20:25 PM »
Doom, give it a rest. I  open a topic,  talk about threes options, and it degrades into this. Good example of why I don't post much here. Again, feel free to put me on your ignore list... Please. The rest of us are having a good conversation... Go away brother.

Give what a rest? You ask for advice, ask a question, people with decades of experience in the industry give it to you for free, it's not what you want to hear, so you go searching for other answers.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ignorance

If you need an excessive amount of bevel, your span isn't as right as it could be. It's a fact. Do you want "Close enough, here's a gold star for trying, Mr Pro shop guy"? Or do you want it to be proper? Is it too much work to go thru the trial and error you and your PSO may need to.go thru to get there, or is it too frustrating to figure out which direction to go?

There are 3 types of people in the world.

1. The people who knows nothing and knows it.
2. The people who know what they're talking about and know it.
3. The people who know just enough to be dangerous, but really just regurgitate what they've heard.

Which are you? (Not lefty in particular, just anyone reading this)



xrayjay

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Re: Change span or pitch?
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2017, 12:00:09 PM »
my two cents...

longer armed people tend to have longer fingers than those with shorter ones. Longer armed ppl do have advantage in throwing leverage vs. shorter ones. shorter armed bowlers require more or larger swing arch to maximize potential. Better utilization of mechanics which are found in elite level short armed athletes.
 

Those power lifting athletes that have longer arms have an advantage due to less ROM from the start of the lift to the finish vs. the shorter armed power lifter who have longer ROM (range of Motion) which requires more effort at the start of the lift. Hip and spine angles are very different between these two types of power lifters.

Medically, we can exam a hand of a child with one x-ray and doctors can tell if this person will basically be developing physically slower than their peers. In some cases, the child growth is completed prematurely - short stature.

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