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jmattox

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Hell Raiser Revenge Ball surface
« on: February 26, 2012, 11:47:13 AM »
I know it is 500, 2000 but to knock the shine off do I have to go 500 then 2000 or can I do just 2000? 
 
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charlest

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Re: Hell Raiser Revenge Ball surface
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 07:51:39 PM »
The Hell Raiser's Factory Finish is 500; 1,500 Siaair Micro Pad; Rough Buff Finish.
There is no 2000 grit involved. If you want a strictly dull surface, you can do use any abrasive pad you want from 1500 grit to 4000 grit. If that's not what you mean, please explain further.


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Re: Hell Raiser Revenge Ball surface
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 09:27:23 PM »
I listed the wrong ball. I meant the Hellraiser Revenge. Need to fix that on my post. My question would be do you have to do the 500 first then the other grit to knock the shine off or just the finish grit?
 
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Re: Hell Raiser Revenge Ball surface
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 10:22:00 PM »
Depends on which shine you're talking about.
 
If you applied polish over the stock surface, then just 2000 grit should work.
If it's has oil shine on the ball from use, you need to clean it off with a good strong cleaner, like Clean and Dull or Hook-it. Then sand it with 2000 grit, if it doesn't have too many games.
 If it has a bunch of games, then the 2000 grit surface might be compromised and you should do the the 500/2000 sequence completely over again to do a thorough refresh.
 
Most balls need a through refresh every 20 - 50 games or so. Oil suckers like the Revenge may need an oil extraction around that 50 game mark. Most times you should do one when the ball reaction changes significantly. It could be 30 games or it could be 75 games. Depends on the usual suspects.
jmattox wrote on 2/26/2012 10:27 PM:I listed the wrong ball. I meant the Hellraiser Revenge. Need to fix that on my post. My question would be do you have to do the 500 first then the other grit to knock the shine off or just the finish grit?
 
Edited by jmattox on 2/26/2012 at 10:28 PM


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Re: Hell Raiser Revenge Ball surface
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2012, 07:53:29 AM »
The Hellraiser Revenge is a VERY dull ball. They call it 2000 grit but it looks more like 1000 grit to me. Was yours shinny out of the box  or after using it?

 

 I have only used mine for three games so far but it is the most aggressive ball I have ever owned and I buy one about every month or so. I put the big crank drill on it which is pin under fingers at 5 inches with a VAL angle of 70 degrees and the pin angle at 60 degrees. I have never seen a dull ball with so much back end and continuation.

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Re: Hell Raiser Revenge Ball surface
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2012, 10:45:46 PM »
Mine was dull out of the box. It has some shine to it now.


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Re: Hell Raiser Revenge Ball surface
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2012, 07:18:19 AM »
Get a good cleaner such as Ledgends or Clean and Dull. If it is still too shinny hit it with a 2000 pad by hand.

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Re: Hell Raiser Revenge Ball surface
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2012, 11:09:52 PM »
+1 to JJ's comments...Mine shines up after about 5-7 games (relative to the beginning grit at least).  If I am lucky to use it for an entire league night (lefty :o) ) I will hit it with a good reactive ball cleaner and then tough it up with a 2k pad by hand.  For consistency and pad durability I use a wet pad, saturated then squeezed out.  Puts enough water on the ball to keep the pad cleaner and sharper longer, gives a nice even finish that I can replicate pretty easily....i found that the more often I do this (usually every 6 games or so) with any dull piece the less often I have to do a full resurface.

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