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thedjs

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New Balls
« on: May 18, 2003, 11:51:12 PM »

Does anyone know what new reactive balls Ebonite has planned for this summer? The only ones I've heard of
seem to be particle balls.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Jeff Carter

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Re: New Balls
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2003, 06:23:33 PM »
The new lineup for the summer will include :
V2 Strong
V2 Dry
Predator Pursuit
Savage Flip
( 4 ) new colors of Maxim

and possibly another ball or 2

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Re: New Balls
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2003, 09:36:13 AM »
Is the Apex Obsession one of the new balls? They just put it up on Bowling Ball Reviews.
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Re: New Balls
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2003, 01:46:45 PM »
Okay, here is the complete list of new Ebonite balls for the summer.

Scheduled for release to Striking Effects Pro Shops June 1st:
TPC Shooter XL
Vortex 2 Dry
Vortex 2 Strong
Apex Obsession
Savage Flip
Predator Pursuit
Tornado Violet/Red Pearl
Tornado Royal Sparkle
Tornado Warning ( 3 pc-Pancake )
Maxim - Captain Cool
Maxim - Captain Class
Maxim - Teal/White Sparkle
Maxim - Bright Purple Sparkle
Garfield Fun Ball - Purple / Rocket to the Pocket
Odie Fun Ball - Yellow / Let the Good Times Roll
and the return of Snuffy

Scheduled for release to Striking Effects Pro Shops August 15th :
TPC Player
Stinger 2-pc Low Flare Particle

remember these dates are to Striking Effects Pro Shops and are subject to change. I'm not sure when distributors will get them but the first release will hit shops before your fall leagues start. Hope this clears up any confusion that anybody has.
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Re: New Balls
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2003, 01:21:36 AM »
lol out of that list the one I'm looking most forward to is mr. snuffy I sooooo want that as my spare ball, it just über cool.

Is it going to be a remake or a new version?

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Re: New Balls
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2003, 05:16:42 AM »
saw mika k using the strong and dry vortex in sweden last week, the strong looks pretty good, shapes similar to an x factor duece. The dry is for DRY it looks like as he was using it as a spare ball! the obsession looks to be a winner as it has similar surface as the adrenaline.

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Re: New Balls
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2003, 02:55:41 PM »
Yes.
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Re: New Balls
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Goof1073

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Re: New Balls
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2003, 08:08:30 AM »
I took at a look at the balls on the site...and for the most part I'm excited from a pro shop point of view.  I can see some good match-ups with my customers.  I am however kind of disappointed about the new offerings for what may go into my bag.  I'm not a huge fan of particle equipment and was looking forward to the V2 Dry...not so sure now?  The Savage Flip sounds interesting though!

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Re: New Balls
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2003, 12:18:22 PM »
I just have one question. Is the savage pursuit still gonna be around the same price range as the other savages? I realize it beeing new will make the price go up a tad but the new core really gets me worried that the price may go up a lot. I have a sanded savage and i really love it. Just a question. Thanks for ur time and answers.


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Brian Pursel

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Re: New Balls
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2003, 02:14:26 PM »
The Pursuit is in the Predator line.  The cost for the Predators and Savages went up mildly this year, but shouldn't reach more than $5 at retail.  The Pursuit, even though it is asymmetric, will be the same price as the Predator Jungle Green.  It is an incredible value.

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Brian Pursel

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Re: New Balls
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2003, 02:25:29 PM »
Regarding the V2 Dry, we are constantly barraged with requests for a high performance urethane ball.  One problem with that combination is, when the core gets to be strong, it is too much for the dry part of the lane.  And we all know that urethane does not backend well enough when it is played through the oil.  This project was given to Ron Hickland, our R&D guru.  His task was straight forward:  Give me a ball that plays well on dry-dry.  After many iterations, his solution was to make the core incredibly weak and use a coverstock that was contemporary.  The core, even when leveraged with a strong weight hole, does not flare more than 1-1/2 inches.  Because of the lack of flare, the coverstock needs to be able to displace oil.  This requires it to be reactive or particle.  The particle was chosen because of its ability to "blend" the lane, not the skid/snap characteristics of reactive.  What you have is a ball that barely flares and has a consistent, V2 type of roll.  Just not alot of hook.  If you expect a dry lane ball to skid, then backend strong, this IS NOT your ball.  If you want a ball that plays the lanes similar to a pancake core, but want the hitting power of a dense core, this is the choice.  A pancake core has a differential in the range of .025.  The V2 Dry has a differential of .004.  This is the lowest flaring core ever produced, other than the wooden balls that Rip Van Winkle propelled toward the pins.

Our website will go live next week.  Our introduction process is to present the product line to our distributors and pro shops first, then to the general public.  We have been doing just that the last two weeks.

If you have any questions, you can emial me at brian.pursel@ebonite.com

Thanks,

Brian
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Goof1073

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Re: New Balls
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2003, 02:48:28 PM »
Thanks for the information Brian...always nice to see people like you and Phil from the various companies giving us input!

I'm not knocking the V2 dry...the ball does make a lot of sence.  I for one have been an advocate for such a ball.  However, it just wasn't what I was expecting...that's all.

We look forward to test driving the balls when they arrive...love being part of the Striking Effects Program!

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Re: New Balls
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2003, 05:15:55 PM »
Ooops i thought it sounded weird, it was early in the morning for me so thats probly why. lol. Thanks for the answers though!
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Re: New Balls
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2003, 10:46:04 PM »
Goof, have you ever faced a condition that was very dry and the ball just went dead sideways at the back of the pattern ??? If your answer is yes then the V2 Dry will be the ball of choice. This ball will allow you to play in the dry part of the lane a lot longer while still being able to control it down lane. In my opinion this ball could be the "trick" that a lot of people have been looking for. If you are a fan of playing out, you will need this ball in your bag !!!
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