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TPC Warrior
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
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Coverstock: Pearlized Big WheelTM Reactive Resin

Box Finish: 800 grit sanded, then factory polished

Color: Neon Blue/Neon Green

Core: Propeller Core, Asymmetric Design

PSA Location: 6-3/4" from pin

Mass Bias Strength: .004

Flare Potential: 6"+

Length: 16.80 (Ebonite’s scale of 1-30, early to late)

Overall Hook: 20.30 (Ebonite’s scale of 1-30, least to most)

Breakpoint Angle: 9.30 (Ebonite’s scale of 1-10, most smooth to most angular)

Best Lane Condition: Light to medium oil

 

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2002, 12:04:47 PM »
I just received a seed Warrior from my dist on Labor Day weekend. I drilled this one 60 degrees with the pin at 4 1/2 from the pap. Ebonites drill sheet would have been at 80 degrees instead of 75 or 90. The weekend condition on synthetic lanes was 38 feet but had 72 games on the pair, probably all plastic balls.                                                                                                                                                            This WARRIOR will not hook in the heads or mid-lane. I'm still considered a old-cranker and usually have a problem in the first 25 feet. I could still play the house shot with 3 to 5 board move to the left. The backend was still O.K. with alot of carry down. By moving deeper to 4th arrow and looping to 5 or 6 at 40 ft. this ball got flippy but still hit like a truck. The one thing I really liked was the Warrior was a little forgiving if I miss hit it or thumbed it!  I think this will be perfect for big-handed players that now can move inside everyone else and still have enough backend punch!                                                                                                                                                            Labor Days condition was no oil that day and light oil on Sunday. This pair of lanes were fresh but hadn't been oiled for 30 hours! Still had plenty of lenght but a violent backend reaction. Had to move into the 17th board at the arrows and 10th to 12th boards at 40 feet. This tamed the backend down if you take your hand out of it. May be too much ball for clean backends. Will be a great ball for tweeners on most med oil conditions. More positive drilling should help them. Thanks again for another seed ball. Will recommend it for some of our customers that need more backend.          Roger

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2002, 03:51:30 PM »
Ok, going to try to keep this simple.

There are no words to describe this ball. It is by far the best ball I've thrown since the original Vortex 2 solid. Imagine the heavy roll of the Apex Reflex with much more continuation. An absolute machine, carries better than anything I've thrown. This years "cheater" ball. Drilled pin above ring finger, bomb 3" right of thumb, weight hole on PAP.

The ease thru the fronts, good read in the middle, continuous backend reaction is everything you could ask for in a bowling ball. A little scrotch brite applied to the cover will make this ball the strongest in the Ebonite line.

Probably the most impressive Ebonite ball I've ever thrown.

Xeno Garcia
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PS. This ball has really high flare potential, so drilling patterns will make a big difference in how this ball reacts. I drilled mine farely strong, and it shows no sign of burning up early.

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2002, 06:13:56 PM »
I echo what Xeno said.  The continuation on this ball is incredible.  Good mid lane revolutions reads the break point very well, the flip is real nice and it hits like a tank.

Bowled with one for 2 hours on Twister pins and left 2 10-pins...that's all...two.

Gotta get your hands on one of these for sure.
JP
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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2002, 12:28:31 PM »
We just drilled up a Warrior for one of our staff bowlers.  This bowler has more of a spinner release, with Medium revs.

We laid the ball with the pin 4" from his axis and the PSA 1 3/4" from Vertical Axis Line.  

The bowler used this ball on a 2nd shift with dry outside 7 and heavy oil inside.

The Warrior was great for reving up in the front part of the lane, and then reading the dry, and giving a smooth/strong move to the pocket.  

This ball will be the choice when bowling on over/under type shots, or those tricky sport conditions where there is a lot of dry boards.  The ball is able to make a strong move to the pocket but still having great hit a the pocket.

I was very impressed watching this ball carry the corners.  The bowler was able to average 250 with it for 3 games, and we both said that it was able to get the corner out better than other balls that he has thrown on this type of shot.

If you have any questions, please email me at Bill@BuddiesProShop.com
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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2002, 09:46:53 PM »
med speed, tweener, the pin just above bridge,(psa) at 70% just to the right and below my thumb, just at one ounce of side weight, one half ounce finger. pap is 4 1/2 from pin and 5 inches from psa.    36 feet heavy oil, wall at 10 board, very very clean backends.  way to much ball for my robby revs, had to play 4th arrow with my weak wrist pos. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BALL HOOK AS MUCH AS THIS ONE!!!!  THIS BALL IS ONLY 14 POUNDS. you would never quess it was a 14 lb by the way this thing hit. just plain awsome. i have finally found a ball that i can throw as hard as i can and still make it back.  write more later   from mike

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2002, 09:32:02 PM »
This ball is drilled with PSA at 90 degrees and pin just under ring finger.  This ball blows in heavy oil 40ft long and wall 5 to 5.  I have decent speed, which I can adjust, and medium revs.  Over-reacts outside of five and stays straight inside of 5.  No area what so ever.  I have to maintain speed from releasing at 10 out to 5 across the 7 board with breakpoint at 40'.  Short hits leave lots of 2-8-10 and high hits leave all sorts of stuff...  I actually hit light once and left a 4-7-10.  This ball does not work in my house.  I shot 630 struggling and the same night there were 3-300's and a 298.  


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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2002, 08:47:25 PM »
Well picked this one up at the regional in Dallas, they had the ball on special for the Pro-AM. What a lucky find. I am a tweener with high ball speed and revs. Drilled the ball with "Drilling #4", but with the pin at 4 1/2". The balance hole in drilled into the "psa", but the 3" depth only got this one down to 3/8 positive side. The ball had 4 ounces of top weight.
 
 So far have used the ball on wood lanes, heavy oil to 45 feet. This gives a strong skid flip that provides devastating pin action. I also used it on a 40 foot blend for travel league and got a little more arc, which with the 5 foot shorter pattern was expected. There was no loss of power all the way into the fifth game, where I managed nine in a row. They call this a pearl, but have had more than one argument on that,due to its ability to handle heavier oil. This is an excellent ball and would strongly recommend it for your arsenal.

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2002, 02:17:47 PM »
There are so few reviewers that are unhappy with NEW BOWLING BALLS they purchase .. makes you wonder if it's just the fact that it's a NEW BALL. Sorry to say .. I now have to join the majority.

The EBONITE WARRIOR is a tremendous ball. I've had it for about 5 weeks and although I bowl four leagues a week, I haven't used it on all conditions. I've used it mainly on oil (medium to heavy) and have excellent results. Although I bowl in one house with WOOD lanes I have not used this ball. In that particular house I've been sucessful with the BUZZSAW, so I have not strayed from that.

With the WARRIOR I need only get close to the pocket (high or low) and the pins fly around. I lost a number of great games missing 10 pins. My problem was missing on the gutter side. I have now mastered that with the ball and hopefully I'll get those BIG game opportunities again.

Love the ball .. put it up there with my ICON/BUZZSAW and RED FUZE. I guess the manufactures have finally hit on something that helps the bowlers and doesn't die after 50 - 100 games.
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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2002, 06:26:16 PM »
I drilled my TPC, 4 1/2" pin, 45 degree psa, balance hole on pap. All I can say is wow. After a rough start in our regional players invitational, playing straight on 41 feet 24 ml of oil (with OB), I took my TPC into 20 and opened up the lane.  Even with my soft speed, I had easy push and the ball still read the midlane very well.  I did not have this reaction with any other ball I tried.  It was either skid-flip (small breakpoint) or earlier roll with limited recovery and weak hit.  This gave me plenty of recovery with out losing any hit.  I placed second and made the National team.  A trip to Reno!  THANKS EBONITE!

I used my TPC on a wall once in couples league.  I had a good reaction playing in so I didn't hit the dry too soon.  This ball arrives with plenty of hit left to throw the pins around.

A long and late ball with a very user friendly breakpoint.  This is a great combonation for me.

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2002, 11:56:59 AM »
Received mine through the PBA offering over a month ago, but did not drill it cause I wanted to see what the rest of my new equipment did before I decided how to drill the Warrior. Ball is 15#, 2-3 inch pin, 3 ounces of top. With the huge diff on this ball, I decided I wanted more control, so I put the pin at 1:30 tucked under my ring finger stacked with the PSA on a 45 degree angle from the CG. Finally drilled it and used it Saturday, after a women's league on Friday, where most of them use either plastic or early urethane balls, then a pee-wee junior league Saturday morning, where all the little kids, including mine, were using plastic balls. CAN YOU SAY CARRYDOWN? Well, I tried my Aggression first, had to move outside and alost play up the gutter, but still didn't have much kick on the backend. Tried my Adrenaline, which is drilled almost identical to the Warrior, and it did less than the Aggression. Original Apex next, still no backend, followed by the V2 Reactive, Predator Sparkle, Intensity still no luck. Had mild success with the V2 Particle, but was drilled too weak and kicked too late, many wrap tens. Then pulled out the Warrior. Absolutely kicked everything else in the rear! Ball acted as if there was no carrydown, was able to move in 5 boards from where I was with the Aggression and 7 from the V2 Particle, and turned the corner everytime. Still hung a couple of tens, but not like I was with the Aggression and V2 Particle. I was very surprised with this ball. I have never been a fan of Pearl balls( I dislike the Predator Sparkle and have only thrown about 4 shots with it in 2 months)but this ball is a definite winner. Tried it again yesterday, this time on 38' fresh 10-10 house pattern, and the ball performed just had it did the day before. Very consistent ball, hard hitting, pretty forgiving.










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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2002, 08:45:25 PM »
I bowl in a house that doesn't clean the lanes or the backends on a consistent basis and have struggled....though I've had some success using my Vortex II...I did some research and ordered the Warrior through a pro shop in Florida (they have my specs on file...I currently live in the Virgin Islands).....I am thrilled with the reaction....it doesn't snap, just a nice continuous arc...I'm not a power player by any means....when I bowled ten years ago I used a Black U-Dot....down 10 to the pocket....I'm FINALLY able to play that type of shot with this ball....I can't wait to use it somewhere else so I can see what it will really do....unfortunately, other than a center in St. Croix (I'm in St. Thomas)...there isn't any other center around except in Puerto Rico, but at $200 for a round trip, it's a bit expensive.....looking forward to taking it to El Salvador for the CAC Games....great ball...!!

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2002, 08:41:36 AM »
TPC Warrior 15lbs, pin (5" inch) in between and directly under fingers with PSA at 5 o'clock.  Ball is very consistant through the heads and has a strong arcing move to the pocket.  Not skid snapish, but strong and controlled on the backend.  The ball performs very well on medium oil but is not recommended for heavy oil patterns.  Carry is very good with this piece of equipment, and I would recommned this to any bowler with high RPM's and average to above average ball speed.  Very versitale bowling ball. Great job Ebonite.

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2002, 01:11:43 PM »
In short - another great ball.  Designed for medium oil and I couldn't agree more.  Handles medium oil great with a skid snap type look.  My layout is pin above the bridge and CG under the bridge with no extra hole.  This layout maximizes the skid.  Drilled stronger and hit with a scotch-brite pad would produce a good ball for heavier oil patterns.  This ball has an asymmetric core but doesn't roll (lope) like a typical asymmetric.  Follow drilling instructions closely.  I recommend small extra holes drilled deep when needed.  Hitting power is very good.  In general, I wouldn't recommend this ball to the straighter player or revolution challenged player - wait for the TPC Shooter coming soon.
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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2002, 02:53:47 PM »
15lbs, pin and CG kicked out to the right, no extra hole. This ball will tear up dry-medium lane conditions, but it does not do well on heavier volumes of oil. I'm a stroker with medium revs and whenever I use this ball on oil, my carry is terrible. But, if I use this ball on medium to drier lanes, this ball hits like a truck. Also, on wall shots, this ball may be useful, but you need to get the ball to the dry area so it can recover. But, if you get it to the dry early, the ball will snap and leave some ugly designs. Bottom line, excellent ball for medium to drier lanes, not so good for oiler lanes. May want to hit lightly with green scotch brite pad to get the ball rolling earlier for a more predictable reaction.