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V2 Strong
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Ball NPS Score: Not Available
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Reactions: Early rev
Burst of energy in the midlane
Strong backend reaction
Target Line: Inside angles and the track area
Lane Conditions: Medium to heavy oil
Coverstock: Big Bang Medium Load particle resin sanded with 1000-grit Abralon
Core: Medium RG, super-high differential version of the V2 core
Weights
RG
Differential 16 15 14 13 12
2.53 2.52 2.53 2.59 2.62
.063 .069 .074 .043 .046

Length Rating: 7.5 (scale of 1-30, early to late)
Overall Hook Rating: 29.95 (scale of 1-30, least to most)
Breakpoint Angle: 8.5 (scale of 1-10, smooth to sharp)
Color: Light Blue/Royal


 

TTBDepot

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Re: V2 Strong
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2003, 07:20:32 PM »
I drilled one of these up about a week ago, and I have been pretty content with the reaction that I get.  I drilled it 3 3/8 by 3 3/8, and it gives me exceptionally good length and a strong move to the pocket.  I dulled the ball up with a green scotch brite pad and it rolls a little smoother at the break point.  A good ball for not a whole lot of money, I recommend this ball to bowlers who are having a tough time getting a ball to wrinkle on the heavier patterns.
Rip it and NOT grip it!!

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Re: V2 Strong
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2003, 12:16:25 AM »
TTBdepot:

I would like to give that ball a try. Maybe you can drill it with rev-leverage
AND add a few snow tire studs to the surface of the ball, 'cause without
the studs, I don't think I can get anything to hook.

Psychoballtester

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Re: V2 Strong
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2003, 08:02:17 PM »
I just got this yesterday in the mail.
Ok,anyways my setup on this ball is a 1/2" inch below the "yellow"dot(the pin)with the two fingers and thumb holes STRAIGHT down.This to me looks like to me a "High RG strong roll".I wanted Rev Leverage,but the pro shop kid says it wasn't possible,but the booklet explains it,oh,well.Anyways he already told me with this set up your V2 will hook no matter what set up was there.Later that day,it was time ta test it!that night Sport shot night.Hmmmm,for a ball that wasn't Rev Levaraged it works pretty good!It has a VERY NICE "out and in" kinda roll.As long as you throw it out NO farther than the second arrow,at least for this house I bowl in.So far my high game on this ball is a "193" and my low a "137"yayayaya,I know all you B-Ball review regulars will get a real good laugh,its COOL!Hey!Uhhhh,"sport shots" are kinda tricky.The only thing a little bad is when the lanes dry up or you miss your
mark and BYE BYE headpin or Hello gutter or 6,9,10 pins!!You will NEVER see a headpin for sure.It goes RIGHT by,man,but thats OK,I little more control
pratice is all I need!!!Overall rating "A",its a really good ball!!!It
deserves this grade cause I still wanna test it on a NON sports shot and I'm
SATISFIED with it,the dry hooking stuff is easy to solve,USE another BALL.I just have a LOTTA fun testing B-balls,I will DO my best to give my honest review.I know before I became a member,I was reading some other Rv's.Since then
I bought 8 or more B-balls based on reviews.


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Re: V2 Strong
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2003, 02:56:28 AM »
The Vortex 2 Strong by Ebonite elevates the Vortex series into the Heavy oil category with ease. I have drilled 2 V2 Strong’s each with the pin at 5 inches below the fingers. One has the Cg at 5 inches with no balance hole and the other has the Cg at 3 ½ inches with a rev-leverage type layout with the balance hole on the VAL 3 inches below the PAP. The V2 Strong with no balance hole has been shined with particle polish and the other V2 Strong is in box condition. The starting pin position was 2 inches out for the label drill and 3 inches out for the second layout. The starting top weight was 2 ½ ounces for the first ball and 3 ounces for the second layout.
I have noticed the roll of the V2 Strong starts revving up a tad bit later visually than the earlier V2’s but once this ball starts rolling it is strong and wow does it flare. I have a V2 Particle with the same label layout and polished surface and it just does not roll as well through oil as the new V2 Strong.
The Vortex 2 Strong could be a solution for anyone with a need for a high flaring heavy oil piece with a price tag that fits just under most other top-flight particle balls.

Jim Lewis
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Re: V2 Strong
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2003, 04:17:50 PM »
I've got my V2 Strong drilled with the pin below my ring finger and the CG moved below the pin and to the right about an inch.  I also used Particle Polish before I drilled it because I felt the factory surface was too much for 99% of the conditions I face.  This particular ball compares somewhere between my Aggression (stronger) and a standard V2 (weaker) with similar layouts.  If left in box condition, I'm sure most will find it a monster in oil.  It seems to hit a little harder than my V2 - probably because the particles keep it on line through the pin deck.  I can see myself using this ball when there is a 37 to 41 foot length pattern or if I want to boom the lane when there's dry to the right.  Overall I think this will be a top seller for Ebonite for a long while.
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Re: V2 Strong
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2003, 01:35:40 AM »
I drilled this Rev-Leverage according to Ebonite's specs. I have a low track (spinner) and I wanted something for the Junior Gold tournament that I thought I was going to need for the long shot. The long shot failed to materialize (AMF Strike & Spare was a flattish shot that quickly developed into a very scorable reverse block), but the V2 gave a very nice reaction. With my release, the ball got length, began to arc midlane, the finished exceptionally strong (this from a ball that was supposed to be early roll with a controlled backend). Also, my low track necessitated a weight hole beneath and to the left of the thumb hole to get rid of thumb weight (this is legal). The V2 was a little too strong (go figure) for the Sport shot, but on Gary Beck's house shot tournament, it gave absolutely wonderful reaction. This is a great ball for lower track players looking for a stronger piece.

TruckFreak69

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Re: V2 Strong
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2003, 01:36:39 AM »
Have only bowled about 16 games with it thus far, and have had a little trouble getting it to feel right in my hand, but I shot 721 the other night and that was throwing it fairly inconsistently, it is very forgiving if you miss right, because it comes back strong, but if you pull it it tends to go through the beak.  It carries the world, at least in comparison with my last new balls (a colossus and extreme chaos) so yes, I haven't really bowled with any new balls in a while so that may be the reason i found this ball's hitting power so exceptional.

Mr Old School

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Re: V2 Strong
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2003, 12:34:39 AM »
aLL I CAN SAY IS WOW If you like the V2 particle, You'll love the strong. I never thought that I could throw a medium Rg ball, but this one changed my mind.
This ball will masks many mistakes made by the bowler! I wished ebonite would haved came out with this ball at the ABC when I competed.

Thanks ebonite
I'll post another review when league starts!
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PikevilleBwl

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Re: V2 Strong
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2003, 09:29:07 PM »
I have just gotten all new equipment for the next few years and this was a ball that picked up. I bought this ball for the US Amatuer in January. This ball has the pin right about the fingers and the CG is kicked out a 1/4 of a inch to the right. I threw this ball and I love the nice arc the ball gets when it hits the back end. I can't wait till the Amatuer I am going to love to throw this ball when I need it. If you are looking for a good ball that will have som arc this is the ball.

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Re: V2 Strong
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2003, 07:49:59 PM »
This ball is absolutely an amazing piece of equipment.  I had mine drilled yesterday and in my first practice session with it I bowled a 675 set (267,208,200).  Keep in mind it was my first time throwing the ball and I am probably about a 180 average bowler.  The most impressive aspect of the balls performance is, it is nearly impossible to miss left (I am a lefty).  When I missed my mark left it just hit the dry, flipped on the turn signal and smashed the pocket like a ton of bricks.  After opening in the first frame I threw 8 or 9 strikes in a row.  To be honest the V2 Strong masked so many mistakes it felt like I was cheating by using it.  I am switching over from a Vortex 2 Pearl which I was also very impressed with but I wanted something that would give me a more violent and angular entry into the pocket.  Impressing me even more was on two shots the ball got caught on my thumb and I lofted it half way down in the air, and it still carried.  AMAZING!.  If you are a bowler looking for more hook or carry this is THE BALL for you.  Get one drilled and prepare to unleash the fury of hell upon your league.

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Re: V2 Strong
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2003, 11:12:10 AM »
One of the best long oil pattern balls I've used in a long time.  I have used this ball from time to time and it has rolled up in the correct spot where other balls seemingly go through the breakpoint.  I drilled this one to complement one of my favorite solid V2's with the pin above the bridge and the CG kicked out an inch with a 1" x 1" weight hole.  One of the most versatile drillings in the most versatile ball ever made makes this ball a powerhouse on patterns where it is easy to throw it through the breakpoint.

Strengths -- Oil, plain and simple, either heavy up front or long down the lane, this ball will hook where you need it to.  Drilling the correct layout for the type of pattern you want it for is very important.

Weaknesses -- Dry heads.  When the heads go, this ball will start to hit weaker, using all of its energy early.  Be careful, you may need to switch to a solid V2 or something similar in the Ebonite line.

Tim Penner
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Jace Peterson

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Re: V2 Strong
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2003, 05:40:13 PM »
I drilled the V2 strong 4" pin 1/2" above ring finger height, cg 2 1/2" from PAP, weight hole on VAL 1 1/2" down from PAP.
 I wanted to use this in box condition. Well it took awhile to find enough oil for the V2 strong, but when I did this ball was powerful. The V2 strong hooks earlier than any ball I have with big backends. If you do not have enough oil in the midlane for this ball it will let you know. It will hook and stop.
 This is a heavy oil ball in box condition unless you have major speed, if you do, you will be able to see the heavy side of medium. For myself (my speed is on the soft side) it will be a trip or two to the ball spinner. Remember the ball surface is the most important part of matching up. I do not see heavy oil very much, and the V2 strong is to good for me not to use. So match up and then

 BOWL TO WIN

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Re: V2 Strong
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2003, 12:12:06 PM »
Right handed.
Above avg speed and above ave revs for a stroker. been described as Stroker with Hand.
Slightly inverted High Ball track.

axis rotation: 50-90
axis tilt: 15-30
PAP 5.5" over, 1/4" down.

Ball:
V2 Strong
3” pin
15.02#
2.8oz top
Drill:
Pin in ring finger . cg kicked out ½” on midline. No wt holes
3- 6” of track flare
Lane conditions:
House #1: 38’ THS. Very wet/dry. 1/3rd synthetics
House #2 38’ heavy oil fresh to well used. Practice house. 1/3rd synthetics
House #3 THS. Wood lanes

I would have never thought to use a V2 strong on a house shot. But thanks to the Ebonite Demo Days I had a chance to throw this ball, and 7 others,  for 5 squads. Yes it was a long day. I had the chance to throw this ball from fresh to carry down and burnt tracks.

I purchased the ball midway through and signed up for more squads. I would like to personally thank the Ebonite team for all their help and lane play tips with this ball.They help me setup the proper drilling for my specs.

This ball is easy to read but hard to put down.  I find this ball is easy to read visually with the colors they have used. You can really see when the ball turns the corner. That is the key with this ball, when it turns the corner it revs up. When you see the ball losing revs on the backend you have to move to get more oil or put it up.
 
The carry is excellent. I seam to kick out more corners than other guys on my league. That includes pure strokers and cankers and everyone in between. I find my self using this ball a little beyond what it is was designed for. I will still play a stroker line with it and pick up more speed and more tilt to get it through the heads. I could move deeper or change balls but It still carries well.

The ball is very versatile for a particle but it maybe too strong for second shift leagues. But on a heavy wet/dry I can use it for all three games as they house tends to transition quickly. the ball will get decent length and nice continuation through the backend.

an easy choice to add to the bag if you have a wet/dry with some oil.

Just an observation as I watched some high revs guys throw the ball in some later squads. the ball had a very early midlane read. so crankers and high revs guys with OOB finish may not like it on anything but a long oil pattern with plenty of oil. but for normal rev Bowlers it is awesome.


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I polished this ball with the ebonite extender polish. It's awesome on the 3rd thru 5 games when the bearkdown from normal play. it still need's some head oil somewhere but it gets great length and is still angular enough to comeback. it dosen't jump like a reactive. so if you getting some over/under with reactives try a polished V2 strong.




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Re: V2 Strong
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2003, 06:02:46 PM »
i am a tweener lefty, it is a 14 lb. ball, the ball has 2 3/4 top weight, drilled leverage...

when the ball hits the pocket cleanly, it BLOWS up. but for me, it seems as if there is a narrow margin of error when throwing this one. if it is a board shallow, i leave 5 and 10. i have BURIED the ball and left a solid 7 pin... repeatedly. i bowl in medium-oily conditions, and the ball will break solidly for the pocket as long as i avoid the dry ends *10-10 block oiling pattern*. if i go outside the block, and swing over the dry 7 or 6 board, it will snap hard and brooklyn without fail.

i have used the ball for only 3 games, so i will follow up in a couple weeks after i get a few league plays under my belt...