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Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« on: January 06, 2017, 10:09:09 PM »
Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers (male or female)

 

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2017, 10:12:19 PM »
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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2017, 10:21:11 PM »
Depends on your definition of stroker.  I don't think there are any successful pro bowlers with less than 225 rpms.  There are a lot of guys who play the gutter like Norm Duke, Walter Ray, Parker Bohn, Haugen, Pepe and Scroggins.  But at the same time, they have a decent rev rate.

I think the closest is Duke, but I have crossed with him when he was playing left of center wheeling the whole lane.

I think in reality, Liz Johnson is the closest.

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2017, 10:33:30 PM »
Depends on your definition of stroker.  I don't think there are any successful pro bowlers with less than 225 rpms.  There are a lot of guys who play the gutter like Norm Duke, Walter Ray, Parker Bohn, Haugen, Pepe and Scroggins.  But at the same time, they have a decent rev rate.

I think the closest is Duke, but I have crossed with him when he was playing left of center wheeling the whole lane.

I think in reality, Liz Johnson is the closest.

 
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I too have crossed with Duke. Also with Walter Ray, Bohn, Haugen, and Scroggins. All these guys have decent rev rates. Actually being on the lanes with them vs. just seeing them on TV gives you a completely different perspective. 

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2017, 02:19:21 AM »
Would Lonnie Waliczek be considered a stroker?

Otherwise, you might find more professional strokers abroad such as in the P*League:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGoJJ3C5wgk

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2017, 04:06:32 PM »
Michael Haugen, Andrew Cain, Scott Norton and Aaron Lorincz I would all consider strokers. Even still, they have way higher revrates than an average league bowler and much better speed management in order to hook it when they need to.

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2017, 02:25:18 PM »
Michael Haugen, Andrew Cain, Scott Norton and Aaron Lorincz I would all consider strokers. Even still, they have way higher revrates than an average league bowler and much better speed management in order to hook it when they need to.

I'd throw Anthony Pepe and Martin Larsen in there as well, but as you said, even he'd have a higher rev rate than most league bowlers.

for a true stroker, you're looking at some of the older guys: Duke, Voss, Husted, Dave Arnold.

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2017, 04:34:32 PM »
Michael Haugen, Andrew Cain, Scott Norton and Aaron Lorincz I would all consider strokers. Even still, they have way higher revrates than an average league bowler and much better speed management in order to hook it when they need to.

I'd throw Anthony Pepe and Martin Larsen in there as well, but as you said, even he'd have a higher rev rate than most league bowlers.

for a true stroker, you're looking at some of the older guys: Duke, Voss, Husted, Dave Arnold.

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Duke and Voss in particular can play effectively off the left gutter when needed. A few years ago at the Senior Masters I watched Duke struggle one game playing off the right gutter, and then move off the left gutter the next game to throw a 300. The point is these guys are not "strokers" in any sense of what most bowlers would understand.
 
The closest to stroker in your list is Dave Arnold. I've crossed with him in Regionals a few times, and his rev rate is closer to mine than any of the other bowlers you referenced.  ;D

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2017, 05:17:02 PM »
Many people look at the effort shown by the so-called professional "strokers" and think they aren't getting much on the ball.  But that is what makes them so good.  They can make 300+ rpm look like a stroker.  Plus, with many bowlers going with a more forward roll to control the breakpoint, the number of boards covered may give the impression of stroker.

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2017, 06:07:56 PM »
Michael Haugen, Andrew Cain, Scott Norton and Aaron Lorincz I would all consider strokers. Even still, they have way higher revrates than an average league bowler and much better speed management in order to hook it when they need to.

I'd throw Anthony Pepe and Martin Larsen in there as well, but as you said, even he'd have a higher rev rate than most league bowlers.

for a true stroker, you're looking at some of the older guys: Duke, Voss, Husted, Dave Arnold.

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Duke and Voss in particular can play effectively off the left gutter when needed. A few years ago at the Senior Masters I watched Duke struggle one game playing off the right gutter, and then move off the left gutter the next game to throw a 300. The point is these guys are not "strokers" in any sense of what most bowlers would understand.
 
The closest to stroker in your list is Dave Arnold. I've crossed with him in Regionals a few times, and his rev rate is closer to mine than any of the other bowlers you referenced.  ;D

Then we should just go ultimate stroker, with Gary Dickinson. :P

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2017, 06:33:11 PM »
Many people look at the effort shown by the so-called professional "strokers" and think they aren't getting much on the ball.  But that is what makes them so good.  They can make 300+ rpm look like a stroker.  Plus, with many bowlers going with a more forward roll to control the breakpoint, the number of boards covered may give the impression of stroker.
Right, Randy Pederson called Dom Barrett a stroker so it makes you wonder what the definition is anymore.  Traditionally, people think rev rate in the 3 levels: Stroker, Tweener, Cranker.  But I'm inclined to agree that Dom strokes the ball really nicely, even though he's got a high rev rate.  I would consider a Mike Devaney a cranker but doesn't have a higher rev rate than Dom as far as I can recall. 
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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2017, 06:39:01 PM »
Outdated terms leftover from the 80's and early 90's.  You don't see guys who only play up 5 anymore or very many prototypical late timing, wild max rev guys anymore.  Bowling has become the game of versatility for those who are successful at the highest level.
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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2017, 09:57:01 PM »
Michael Haugen, Andrew Cain, Scott Norton and Aaron Lorincz I would all consider strokers. Even still, they have way higher revrates than an average league bowler and much better speed management in order to hook it when they need to.

I'd throw Anthony Pepe and Martin Larsen in there as well, but as you said, even he'd have a higher rev rate than most league bowlers.

for a true stroker, you're looking at some of the older guys: Duke, Voss, Husted, Dave Arnold.

BL.

 
Duke and Voss in particular can play effectively off the left gutter when needed. A few years ago at the Senior Masters I watched Duke struggle one game playing off the right gutter, and then move off the left gutter the next game to throw a 300. The point is these guys are not "strokers" in any sense of what most bowlers would understand.
 
The closest to stroker in your list is Dave Arnold. I've crossed with him in Regionals a few times, and his rev rate is closer to mine than any of the other bowlers you referenced.  ;D

Then we should just go ultimate stroker, with Gary Dickinson. :P

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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2017, 12:56:10 PM »
I  would also lump in a large number of PWBA bowlers.  Stephanie Johnson, along with Liz Johnson.  Most are lower rev rates.  I agree with a previous poster, that the terms are outdated. I have seen Norm and Walter Ray swing the ball like a cranker.
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Re: Can anyone give a list of professional bowlers who are strokers
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2017, 01:24:59 PM »
Carolyn Dorin-Ballard has one of the lowest rev rates you will ever see in a top tier bowler. But she will shoot the lights out on you if you give her anything to work with, and I have still seen her play a lane inside out a bit, just not like you get used to seeing with the PBA and higher rev PWBA players.