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banjoec

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Disappointment with Hammer
« on: August 07, 2008, 10:49:49 AM »
Are we all sick of another variation of a Widow or Vibe. I've owned 2 Raw Pains, 2 Black Widows, Toxic, Anger & 2 Blue Vibes. The Widows were dead after 40 games. The Raw series lasted a bit longer. I've moved on to other equipment. The only Hammer I still throw is the Blue Vibe. With a new fall season about to begin, I'm looking at everything but the new Hammer stuff.
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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2008, 02:40:04 AM »
i Clean my stuff off and on and i haven't had a problem with any thing dying on me as of yet.  There has been the problem where i got a "new used ball" did some surface adjustments and what not and seems like the balls are dead but infact it could be the lanes/bowler/even the ball.  

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banjoec

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2008, 02:58:29 AM »
I clean my equipment after each session. Adjust the covers when needed. The original Widows were great for the first 40-50 games. After that they were only good on THS. The Blue Vibe is a great ball.
You can dismiss my opinion claiming that it's based on ignorance. It's just my opinion. So keep your analogies about arrow, indians and kids washing hands. If you feel good throwing Hammer, then I'm happy for you. I just don't see myself getting too excited about any more spiders.
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Moon57

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2008, 06:06:57 AM »
Maybe ball death is more a question of dirt and not oil. Oil can be pulled out in a number of ways. Dirt that's ground in isn't going to come out with heat. So maybe ball death is more relevant to how clean the house keeps their pits and ball returns. Once the dirt gets pushed into the pores deep enough even sanding wont get down to a good part of the cover. Also I think cleaners are geared more for removing oil from the ball, not dealing with ground in dirt.
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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2008, 06:26:08 AM »
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I clean my equipment after each session. Adjust the covers when needed. The original Widows were great for the first 40-50 games. After that they were only good on THS. The Blue Vibe is a great ball.
You can dismiss my opinion claiming that it's based on ignorance. It's just my opinion. So keep your analogies about arrow, indians and kids washing hands. If you feel good throwing Hammer, then I'm happy for you. I just don't see myself getting too excited about any more spiders.


Try Brunswick or MoRich.I love my LevRg and I've owned my Intense Inferno since it was released,zero loss in performance.with all the Ebo made covers I could'nt find something I liked but instead I tried to live with.
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leftyinsnellville

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2008, 07:19:14 AM »
Throw your Widows in the dishwasher and turn off the dryer.  Don't use any detergent.  Come out just like new.
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Lillen

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2008, 07:50:54 AM »
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Throw your Widows in the dishwasher and turn off the dryer. Don't use any detergent. Come out just like new.


Did that yesterday..      Valentino Resurrection is up next...
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Moon57

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2008, 07:51:35 AM »
Say lefty, the dishwasher trick might work better than a hot water bath because the ball is getting hit with a spray instead of passively sitting in hot water. Could be the spray dislodges dirt that is present in the cover. Wonder how a power washer would work? Wouldn't be any harm in trying it on a ball that somebody"s giver up on.
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J_Mac

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2008, 09:04:40 AM »
He's not anyone... he's more like a no one.

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That is the first time I have ever heard of anyone not liking the Blue Vibe.......


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The blue vibe was one of the worst balls hammer ever released no wonder it got discontinued. Also there balls die so fast just like Ebonite's.
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Gazoo

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2008, 09:08:56 AM »
My pro shop operator does quite well on these so called "DEAD" bowling balls. Takes them in in trade, does an oil extraction then takes them back to factory OOB, sales them on the used ball rack. The funny thing is, that the customers who buy them, come back and talk about what hook monsters they are. Very odd phenomenon for those that have the problem.
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leftyinsnellville

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2008, 09:10:02 AM »
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Say lefty, the dishwasher trick might work better than a hot water bath because the ball is getting hit with a spray instead of passively sitting in hot water. Could be the spray dislodges dirt that is present in the cover. Wonder how a power washer would work? Wouldn't be any harm in trying it on a ball that somebody"s giver up on.
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It isn't just the spray...the heat and steam also cause the ball to "sweat" out oil and dirt.  The temperature inside the dishwasher is high enough to get the job done, but not so high that you risk harming your ball.
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brett_dubbin

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2008, 09:13:24 AM »
It's Funny. Ever Since I threw The Blue Vibe and DOOM when they first arrived, I was pretty Impressed with Hammer. I have thrown pretty much every new Hammer with the exception of the Bite, Venom, Emerald and Cherry Vibes, and the Razyr. Right now I only have one Hammer I am throwing in leagues, the Phsyco, and I love it, that, along with the Copperhead and Tornado, really is all you need to cover most if nopt all the house shots you see. Surface prep is the number one thing that determines ball reaction, Take a Ebo NV, drill it up and put at 4000 with a ton of polish and it wont wrinkle, take a PAIN, you know a mid priced ball that supposed to be good for average bowlers, oh throw it to 1000 sanded and you wont even be able to throw it on most shots cause there won't be enough oil. Surface Prep. Anyway, None of my Hammer Stuff has ever died, I threw a lot of big numbers with the Blue Vibe, why the knocks? Sorry for the novel.
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robbouk

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2008, 09:23:39 AM »
i have a friend who is sponsored by hammer and also a few other mates who own lots of hammer balls and the only ones i have seen die are those which have not been properly looked after (cleaned/resurfaced/rejuvinated!)
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KDawg77

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2008, 09:39:48 AM »
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The blue vibe was one of the worst balls hammer ever released no wonder it got discontinued. Also there balls die so fast just like Ebonite's.
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NJStroker

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2008, 12:00:28 PM »
DONT USE CLEAN AND DULL ON A SPINNER
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
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OddBalls

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2008, 12:01:28 PM »
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DONT USE CLEAN AND DULL ON A SPINNER
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.


Sez who??
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