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banjoec

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Disappointment with Hammer
« on: August 07, 2008, 10:49:49 AM »
Are we all sick of another variation of a Widow or Vibe. I've owned 2 Raw Pains, 2 Black Widows, Toxic, Anger & 2 Blue Vibes. The Widows were dead after 40 games. The Raw series lasted a bit longer. I've moved on to other equipment. The only Hammer I still throw is the Blue Vibe. With a new fall season about to begin, I'm looking at everything but the new Hammer stuff.
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directdrill

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2008, 12:04:00 PM »
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DONT USE CLEAN AND DULL ON A SPINNER
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.



Why not?  The directions on the bottle do not warn against using the product on a spinner.  I have used Clean n' Dull on a spinner and not seen a reduction in performance.
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janderson

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2008, 12:13:44 PM »
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The blue vibe was one of the worst balls hammer ever released no wonder it got discontinued. Also there balls die so fast just like Ebonite's.


If you read these forums long enough, you'll hear that about every ball from every manufacturer.

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OddBalls

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2008, 12:13:52 PM »
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DONT USE CLEAN AND DULL ON A SPINNER
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.



Why not?  The directions on the bottle do not warn against using the product on a spinner.  I have used Clean n' Dull on a spinner and not seen a reduction in performance.
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Me too..

Contains no grit and it's not a polish. Really does a good job of surface cleaning a ball to remove grease and belt marks.


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TWOHAND834

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2008, 12:26:22 PM »
For best results, you should use cleaners and polishes while the balls are on a spinner.

As far as people doing maintenance on their stuff.  Just using a spinner with a cleaner does not do the trick completely.  It more or less just cleans the surface.  It does not get what is inside the ball to come out.  When doing a hot water bath, you must repeat the process with fresh hot water until you see no oily film on top of the water.  That means dumping the water out every 15 minutes and refilling the bucket with fresh hot water.  A friend of mine has a Revivor and he has told me that there are times where it takes almost an entire 8 hour day to completely extract oil from some of the balls he receives.  

The Blue Vibe was one of the best balls that Hammer released in the past several years.  It reminded me alot of a Black Widow for lighter conditions (similar ball motion).
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mainzer

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2008, 12:56:24 PM »
I still think Ebonites covers are junk they die to fast and I really don't beleive they are stronger than anyone elses stuff I don't see a big differnce
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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2008, 01:08:40 PM »
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I still think Ebonites covers are junk they die to fast and I really don't beleive they are stronger than anyone elses stuff I don't see a big differnce
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We are all entitled to our own opinions, You believe what you want I will choose to continue throwing my Black Widow.

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KDawg77

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2008, 01:09:27 PM »
His illiteracy outweighs his opinion.
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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2008, 01:12:12 PM »
5 gallon bucket+a cap of dawn+hot tap water=
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Oskuposer

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2008, 01:15:25 PM »
They bowling balls are fine except the red vibe dont put pin under middle it will crack.  Hanging around a pro shop you see alot and all 3 were on their first drill 3 different bowlers.
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var60bfl

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2008, 01:23:15 PM »
kitty litter in a bucket for a couple of days works for me.
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SVstar34

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2008, 01:55:33 PM »
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They bowling balls are fine except the red vibe dont put pin under middle it will crack.  Hanging around a pro shop you see alot and all 3 were on their first drill 3 different bowlers.
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That doesn't make any sense, I've seen plenty of Vibes with pin under and have never seen them crack.
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DanR

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2008, 04:26:49 PM »
In most instances if you keep any hole away from the pin at least 1" the ball will not crack
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Oldskool2

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2008, 05:17:05 PM »
I think there are more reasons for ball dead then just oil and dirt.

I clean my equipment very well. When they lost performance, some of them I got back to react good again, others stayed dead.

I think it is also in the material itself. the additives that make the urethane proreactive vaporize in time. This happens with all plastics. My neighbor had a plastic ship model, that just crumbled at touch. Maybe that in some balls this happens to fast?

Because some people experience it and others don't with the same type of ball( maintained correctly), maybe it has to do with the consistency in quality of the raw materials.

I think, would this happen with a product other then a bowlingball, the company would get a lot more warranty claims. Now all is due to the owner or use.

When I calculate what the costs per game were for some balls I get a little irritated.

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Spider Ball Bowler

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2008, 05:25:58 PM »
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i must be the weirdest person ever i rarely ever clean anything and never bleed oil out of anything but have still never had any ball from any company die other than my el nino gold after 3 leagues season bowling 4 days a week.
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Naw I'm with you on that one...I never clean my stuff.  Never had a ball die on me.  I have all of the Black Widows except for the new one, and they are all going strong....
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charlest

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #45 on: August 08, 2008, 06:25:24 PM »
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DONT USE CLEAN AND DULL ON A SPINNER
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.


Please explain how you came to that conclusion.
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