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djgook

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Hammer new/ re release balls
« on: June 08, 2017, 11:40:06 AM »
So I see the new ball on their website is the Disel- mid performance and the re release of the Vibe(blue and cherry)lower performance.
Is bowling ball companies running out of ideas or is this what the masses want?

For the Vibe I guess the remix didn't work.
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Re: Hammer new/ re release balls
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2017, 11:47:17 AM »
Just looked at the Diesel because I LOVED the original Diesel Particle Solid....and I thought that this cannot be the same because the original core would be illegal today because of the diff. Sure enough, the diff on the new Diesel is in the .040s and the original Diesel was above .060....

Too bad...

Now...if Hammer would bring back the original Vicious Particle....with a Particle Solid cover....hmmmmm

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Re: Hammer new/ re release balls
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2017, 11:48:55 AM »
Not the same balls just a familiar name...just like Ford did with the Taurus...consumers buy familiar products
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Re: Hammer new/ re release balls
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2017, 11:57:23 AM »
And Columbia put up the Juke, looks like I was right about it being with the Side Swipes.

Well there goes my plan of only drilling 1 new ball for fall leagues
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Re: Hammer new/ re release balls
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2017, 12:49:49 PM »
Eh, not impressed. Don't like the cover on the Diesel, hopefully its better than the Rebel Solid did not like that ball.

Not much wow factor that's for sure..

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Re: Hammer new/ re release balls
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2017, 12:51:26 PM »
I was really expecting to see a solid Phobia...  I definitely agree with familiarity selling though. 
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Re: Hammer new/ re release balls
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2017, 01:30:33 PM »
I was really expecting to see a solid Phobia...  I definitely agree with familiarity selling though. 

Phobia Solid is on the approved list, it was mentioned there will be more announcements at the end of the month.

I agree on not being wowed because of the cover on the Diesel. I havent been a huge fan of the NBT mixes

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Re: Hammer new/ re release balls
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2017, 03:57:30 PM »
So... the Vibes are their light oil releases? Bleh. You can't just say something should be used for lighter oil and expect it to work out that way. It actually needs to be manufactured to do so. There probably won't be any "true" weak resin balls made anymore and I don't try and pound the same line when it's too dry though so whatever.

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Re: Hammer new/ re release balls
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2017, 04:12:31 PM »
So... the Vibes are their light oil releases? Bleh. You can't just say something should be used for lighter oil and expect it to work out that way. It actually needs to be manufactured to do so. There probably won't be any "true" weak resin balls made anymore and I don't try and pound the same line when it's too dry though so whatever.

both Vibes have the CT covers, those were weaker than the recent Viral releases with the Violent Flip covers

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Re: Hammer new/ re release balls
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2017, 05:23:48 PM »
No matter what the core name is or looks like if "new" or "old" the numbers always fit the usbc guidelines for specs. There is no new ball shape or reaction on the lanes we haven't seen before. It's just marketing.  You have been buying the same stuff for years. 

It's just nice when they can actually make the colors and logos look good… ..that seems to be harder for them to do these days.  Liked both Rebels and Sideswipes. In terms of looks and names the replacements are a bit of a let down.
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Re: Hammer new/ re release balls
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2017, 05:47:23 PM »
No matter what the core name is or looks like if "new" or "old" the numbers always fit the usbc guidelines for specs. There is no new ball shape or reaction on the lanes we haven't seen before. It's just marketing.  You have been buying the same stuff for years. 

It's just nice when they can actually make the colors and logos look good… ..that seems to be harder for them to do these days.  Liked both Rebels and Sideswipes. In terms of looks and names the replacements are a bit of a let down.

Yeah thats how I feel, Juke looks atrocious and EBI has went with a thinner scribing for labels which also doesn't help the look either.

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Re: Hammer new/ re release balls
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2017, 06:51:12 PM »
Just looked at the Diesel because I LOVED the original Diesel Particle Solid....and I thought that this cannot be the same because the original core would be illegal today because of the diff. Sure enough, the diff on the new Diesel is in the .040s and the original Diesel was above .060....

Too bad...

Now...if Hammer would bring back the original Vicious Particle....with a Particle Solid cover....hmmmmm

Lol, I'm STILL using a Diesel Particle as one of my go to balls.  In fact, I had my best look with it down at Nats in Vegas with a maroon>green scotch-brite finish.  Love that ball!!!

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Re: Hammer new/ re release balls
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2017, 09:26:01 PM »
I have the new Blue Vibe, its super clean up front and definitely needs to see friction downlane. Very controllable downlane.
I have a fairly strong pin-pap layout on it as well.
I sure wish I had been able to use this piece last weekend during the last few games of the tournament I was at, the heads were totally fried.....
its much weaker than the OG blue Vibe I feel in love with back in the day

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Re: Hammer new/ re release balls
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2017, 10:40:43 PM »
A new Diesel awesome! I loved my original so a big Hell Yeah there.
The core numbers look perfect for a step down to my BI. getting even more excited on this release!
NBT cover... Yeah... Nooo... I'll pass.
Shoulda wrapped it in a Juice cover...
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Re: Hammer new/ re release balls
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2017, 09:57:49 PM »
> There probably won't be any "true" weak resin balls made anymore and I don't try and pound the same line when it's too dry though so whatever.

Well there is the Blue Hammer (at least for now) and its more a weak resin than the true urethane it claims to be.  I wonder how it compares to both the new vibes.  I am guessing it goes longer than either and is a beat weaker than both which is exactly what I was looking for when I bought it.  It shares a similar core it looks to both of them (new vibes look even closer to Burgundy core).  The new vibes doesn't scratch any itch I need but with surface changes the entire current Hammer 4 ball Lower mid performance could complete a fairly decent league arsenal for a very affordable price imho.  Would definitely own most house shots.
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