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bowlingman817

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Hammer Viral = Hammer Vibe?
« on: October 27, 2014, 11:04:11 PM »
Just received my November issue of Bowlers Journal and seen a review on a Hammer Viral. It has the vibe core along with the Black Widow cover. It is grayish or silver in color. My question is isnt that the same cover and core combo they just had on the Cobalt Vibe? Maybe its just a vibe but with a new name.

 

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Re: Hammer Viral = Hammer Vibe?
« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2014, 09:54:24 AM »
I drilled my Viral last night exactly how I have my Flip (60 x 5 x 35) to see the difference, and I noticed that this is the perfect compliment to the Flip... I saw about 4 boards weaker than my Flip, so after league and changed the surface to 3000 with FF polish and love the reaction that I saw... it was about 6-7 boards weaker overall & was able to play in the friction a little more...

I am going to throw this a little more in the next week and provide a review then after bowling on a few different patterns. So far, I like what I see in this ball...

If you had a choice between the Viral or either of the Spike(s) or the Nail which would you choose?

My choice is easily... the Viral. I love the proven Vibe core and the Nail was one of those balls that did not work for me. The Spike is a great ball, but I prefer the Viral over the Spike!
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Re: Hammer Viral = Hammer Vibe?
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2014, 05:01:35 PM »
I enjoyed rolling this ball last night and it was pretty awesome on medium to dryer lane conditions.  I drilled it 40 x 5 x 35 and scuffed the surface with 2000 Abralon Pad.   

LANE CONDITION

Length: 42 FT

Volume: Medium to Heavy

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS

PAP/Track:  5 3/8” x 5/16” up
Axis Rotation:  45 degrees
Axis Tilt:  20 degrees
Rev Rate: 400
Ball Speed: 14-15 mph
Dual Layout:  40x5x35

The ball get's through the fronts and a strong backend.  This ball I intended for when the heads start to go away and backends have carry down.  It's a great addition to my Hammer Arsenals. 

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Re: Hammer Viral = Hammer Vibe?
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2014, 05:58:49 PM »
I enjoyed rolling this ball last night and it was pretty awesome on medium to dryer lane conditions.  I drilled it 40 x 5 x 35 and scuffed the surface with 2000 Abralon Pad.   

LANE CONDITION

Length: 42 FT

Volume: Medium to Heavy

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS

PAP/Track:  5 3/8” x 5/16” up
Axis Rotation:  45 degrees
Axis Tilt:  20 degrees
Rev Rate: 400
Ball Speed: 14-15 mph
Dual Layout:  40x5x35

The ball get's through the fronts and a strong backend.  This ball I intended for when the heads start to go away and backends have carry down.  It's a great addition to my Hammer Arsenals. 

So I take it that this wasn't pulled out on the fresh? It sounds like this would be slotted at #4 in the bag behind, say an Absolute Flip, BW Legend, and a Pivot, with each one of those being roughly 2 - 3 boards right of eachother at the arrows.. So one would start the furthest left with the Pivot, then 2 right would be the BWL, then 2 right of that the Flip, then finally, the Viral?

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Re: Hammer Viral = Hammer Vibe?
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2014, 07:06:48 PM »
I drilled my Viral last night exactly how I have my Flip (60 x 5 x 35) to see the difference, and I noticed that this is the perfect compliment to the Flip... I saw about 4 boards weaker than my Flip, so after league and changed the surface to 3000 with FF polish and love the reaction that I saw... it was about 6-7 boards weaker overall & was able to play in the friction a little more...

I am going to throw this a little more in the next week and provide a review then after bowling on a few different patterns. So far, I like what I see in this ball...

If you had a choice between the Viral or either of the Spike(s) or the Nail which would you choose?

My choice is easily... the Viral. I love the proven Vibe core and the Nail was one of those balls that did not work for me. The Spike is a great ball, but I prefer the Viral over the Spike!

Plow, how does the Viral compare to the Cobalt Blue Vibe? Thoughts please

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Re: Hammer Viral = Hammer Vibe?
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2014, 09:44:17 PM »
Let's say that the Viral has replaced my Cobalt Vibe in my tournament bag. This ball handles the transition better, which I loved my Cobalt Vibes. The Viral is about 2 boards stronger overall than my Cobalt, but it does turn the corner a little harder too.

I am going to drill another one soon to replace my Nail & my orange/blue Spike from my arsenal. Just received my Burgundy Hammers today & will drill 1 of them up tomorrow with the same drilling as my Viral to see the difference between the 2 balls.

Hope this helps...
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Re: Hammer Viral = Hammer Vibe?
« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2014, 10:12:24 PM »
Please let use know how those two compare with similar drillings. Im really intrigued by the burgandy.

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Re: Hammer Viral = Hammer Vibe?
« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2014, 11:12:15 PM »
Let's say that the Viral has replaced my Cobalt Vibe in my tournament bag. This ball handles the transition better, which I loved my Cobalt Vibes. The Viral is about 2 boards stronger overall than my Cobalt, but it does turn the corner a little harder too.

I am going to drill another one soon to replace my Nail & my orange/blue Spike from my arsenal. Just received my Burgundy Hammers today & will drill 1 of them up tomorrow with the same drilling as my Viral to see the difference between the 2 balls.

Hope this helps...

Good to hear, thanks. I also like that the Viral can be had for less and find better specs then the Vibe right now.

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Re: Hammer Viral = Hammer Vibe?
« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2014, 12:19:13 AM »
I just pre-ordered the Viral.
Thanks for all of the informative input from everyone in this discussion.
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Re: Hammer Viral = Hammer Vibe?
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2014, 11:31:52 AM »
Bowlingman817 - check out my mini review on the Burgundy Hammer that I drilled & threw last night. This could be one of my favorite balls of 2014 from Hammer. Really love the reaction this ball provides on the lanes!
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Re: Hammer Viral = Hammer Vibe?
« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2014, 10:00:14 PM »
What condition was the Widow sting good on?  This is the same cover that was on the No Mercy Whup'n and that ball was listed for medium to heavy oil.  It did have a really strong mass bias core though.  The Whup'n was one of my favorite balls and I was looking forward to this ball. I'm not so sure now that I hear that it seems pretty weak.
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Re: Hammer Viral = Hammer Vibe?
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2014, 09:41:26 PM »
Just received mines in the mail today. Will drill tomorrow morning and then hit the lanes. I see this as an awesome re-enlistment present to myself lol.
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Re: Hammer Viral = Hammer Vibe?
« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2014, 06:59:49 AM »
After a little over a week with the Hammer Viral I wanted to give my initial thoughts on the ball. I am thoroughly satisfied with this ball from all aspects. If this is what I've been missing out with by not using the Vibes before they were discontinued I am more disappointed in myself. I used this ball on the THS, a sport shot, and through some practice sessions.

On the THS during league play I usually start with my B.W. Legend but during the warm ups I realized that it was way too much ball. I decided this was the perfect time to use the Viral. The ball was very smooth and gave me a nice controlled arch into the pocket vice a snapping motion. I assume this is because of the drilling on the ball. Throughout all the games I was able to stay with this ball and just move and make minor adjustments with my hand position and ball speed to continue use.

I don't know what sport shot was put out, but on the fresh my Viral wasn't the best choice. After the first game though I switched to my Viral and it took over for the rest of the night. It continued to provide a nice arching motion and handled transition well.

During my practice sessions I only bowled with the Viral and my Black/Blue Spike to see which I would carry in my bag and which would be put on the shelf as an alternate. Both balls provide length but I prefer the motion that the Viral offers me.

Overall, so far I am happy with this purchase and hope to continue to find success with this ball. I didn't expect the Viral to be able to handle lighter oil or shorter patterns as well as it did since the cover stock came from a former Black Widow but it seems to match up with me well and offers me a very controllable motion.
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