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astroboy

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Need help on a Black Widow Pearl
« on: March 12, 2008, 03:01:28 PM »
A friend of mine got a 3-4" pin Black Widow Pearl, which was drilled pin under the ring at 4.5" and MB 5" to PAP. She's a very high track stroker with PAP 6" and 1" up, who bowls 13-14 mph with medium rev. She found out that the ball would either go too long and wouldn't hook on heavier conditions, or it would roll out at most of the medium condition. I've already tried different surface finish with and without polish, while she didn't like any. Up to this point, I can't think of anything to help anymore. Any suggestions on what else I can try? Or should I just suggest her to have it re-drilled? If so, what kind of layout should be used?

 

astroboy

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Re: Need help on a Black Widow Pearl
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2008, 11:42:16 AM »
Anyone? Thank you.

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Re: Need help on a Black Widow Pearl
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2008, 12:31:34 PM »
Any suggestions? Thank you.

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Re: Need help on a Black Widow Pearl
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2008, 12:42:26 PM »
Hi - your friend's style sounds similar to mine.  Here's what works for me with my BWP:  It's drilled ring finger thru the pin.  Ball won't work on heavy oil, but on medium with box finish it's great and has great backend.  Any ball drilled for me pin under won't finish - it's got to be pin at ring or just over ring finger, or possibly kicked to right.

Hope this helps and good luck - ball can be a backend monster if it's drilled right and on the right condition.

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Re: Need help on a Black Widow Pearl
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2008, 11:35:38 PM »
Thanks for the reply. I knew already that the ball is for medium condition, but I just tried to sand it down to have her tried on a little heavier condition for the heck of it. What would be the recommended pin over layout should I suggest?

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Re: Need help on a Black Widow Pearl
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2008, 08:26:06 AM »
I've had 3 BWP's, all drilled different. First one was pin over bridge, cg kicked right. This ball just never matched up for me for some reason. At times it was like it just rolled out, and never had anything to it. The second was pin under ring, cg kicked about 45*. This was really smooth, and I loved the reaction of it.

The 3rd, is drilled 3 3/8" stacked leverage, 4000 abralon, then polished. I love the reaction of this ball on our THS. Great roll, excellent backend/carry. The cover to me is very touchy, also and pretty layout sensitive.

If it's rolling out on your house shot, I'd say polish it up, and take the grit up to about 2000 or 4000 too.
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Re: Need help on a Black Widow Pearl
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2008, 09:53:22 AM »
My BWP is drilled with the pin 1" to the right of my ring finger with the CG kicked out about 1 1/2" from the C/L. The finish is OOB except for hand polishing now and then with NeoTac RenewIt and ControlIt.

On our THS it works great, goes long and turns nicely, not skid/flippy unless I manage to get some hand into it. My track is average, speed average. I am NOT a cranker by any means, too old for that!

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Re: Need help on a Black Widow Pearl
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2008, 02:17:13 PM »
Is she bowling on a typical house shot that has dry boards outside?

If your bowling on heavier oil and the ball won't bite, then the cover needs to be adjusted to a lower grit.

You also said the ball rolls out on medium conditions.  Does she have really slow ball speed?  Are you sure the pattern is not too dry?

I don't think you need to change the drill layout.  I think it's more about the coverstock and or where she's playing on the lanes.  I would buy some abralon pads 4000, 2000, 1000, 500 and give thaty before you plug and re-drill the ball.  You will see a difference in reaction between 4000 grit and 1000 grit.

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Re: Need help on a Black Widow Pearl
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2008, 03:20:32 PM »
astroboy...

I do not care for pin below the fingers on Pearl equipment, but that is just me.
The Black Widow Pearl in going to get through the head area for most people and really does not need a lot of help with the pin below the finger for early roll. My wife's BWP started with a 2 1/2 " pin so this layout put the pin above the fingers, MB, in a strong position. This layout seems to work for a lot of people on the BWP. The BWP overall does not like the heavy oil patterns. If you can find the dry area on a THS shot and see how the ball rolls, you might see a big difference in ball reaction. Many times it is where you are playing the lane. I would try a few more things before you re-drill her ball.

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Re: Need help on a Black Widow Pearl
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2008, 04:11:04 PM »
She has no problem with it on a flash 38-40' THS with box finish. The ball hooks hard at the dry, but she just need to put it down once the reaction is gonna start flatting out after only about 2 games.

The original idea was to get the BWP drilled with a smoother reaction out of a skid-flip piece to fill up the gap between the BW solid drilled pin over bridge with MB next to the thumb, and a Storm Fired-Up drilled skid-flip, and, it was actually drilled just like Fatboy's pin under with cg kicked 45*.

It's not like she can't use it at all, but not really be able to use it much, while she could also make great reaction out of her other pieces on the same condition.

Basically, I've already tried different finishes at 1k-4k abralon on little heavy conditions, and 1k-4k polished on medium conditions.

Both of bowl200 and jodyk24 had actually stated a very good point. The dry area that she plays is actually very limited. May be I should just suggest her to try shifting her break point at the dry to see how it comes out.