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NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« on: September 17, 2015, 11:33:14 AM »
Heya gang... Just got the info on the new Hammer Black Urethane.
This looks like a ball to have in the bag for the shorter patterns & will be a true urethane cover.

http://www.hammerbowling.com/products/balls/mid-performance/hammer-black-urethane
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Re: NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2015, 04:19:50 PM »
Here is the Hammer video of the Black Hammer Urethane throw by Bill O'Neill.

I have personally thrown mine drilled with a 65 x 4 1/4 x 35 layout and I really like the motion that I see with this ball. It is about 3-4 boards stronger than my original Faball Black Hammer. This is a great piece to have in your arsenal for the shorter / drier lane patterns.

https://youtu.be/aHsc2kNTkpw
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Re: NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2015, 04:59:50 PM »
i miss my original black hammer :'(

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Re: NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2015, 07:56:34 PM »
Has anyone trIed to polish theirs?  Mine is way too early box and I wondered if they are as difficult as the old hammers.  The Blue was ridiculously hard to polish.

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Re: NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2015, 11:42:02 PM »
Has anyone trIed to polish theirs?  Mine is way too early box and I wondered if they are as difficult as the old hammers.  The Blue was ridiculously hard to polish.

I was wondering the same thing. I'm on the fence on this ball. Waiting and hoping they re-release the pink next!

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Re: NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2015, 01:24:11 PM »
 Why is the differential so much higher on the 16lb ball than the 15 or the 14?

 The 16 is going to be quite a bit more dynamic than the other weights, don't y'all think?
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Re: NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2015, 01:48:13 PM »
just a little more flare, yes, but really should not matter that much. The ball is still smooth in the backends. This ball is really growing on me the more that I throw it...

I have tried shinning mine up a little bit and it does shine up, but not glossy, which is good compared to the old days of urethane... the only way that I got my old urethane shiny was leaving it in the old Lustre King for 1/2 hour... don't see too many of those around anymore.

I think you guys will be pleasantly surprised on how good this ball actually rolls on the shorter / drier lane patterns.
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Re: NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2015, 02:15:47 PM »
Where does this fit with the newer blue hammer?
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Re: NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2015, 02:28:59 PM »
Remember these are old school thick shells, meaning that the only way to change the weight is with the core, so the 16 lb is denser and has more influence. No way around it. It is another throwback to when the 16 lber was still the choice for most bowlers.

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Re: NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2015, 02:53:03 PM »
Why is the differential so much higher on the 16lb ball than the 15 or the 14?

 The 16 is going to be quite a bit more dynamic than the other weights, don't y'all think?

     14lb can be just as dynamic or maybe more than a 16lb with the right surface on it.
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Re: NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2015, 06:30:28 PM »
I pre-ordered mine and paid the extra $5.00 for it too be 3000 grit no polish, only 2 more weeks too go till I'm getting even with houses that short oil THS.

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Re: NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« Reply #41 on: October 31, 2015, 12:34:10 PM »
Where does this fit with the newer blue hammer?

for me: the newer blue was a hook-stop at about 25'
this new black one is longer and smooth downlane IMO

I am on a high volume 35' short pattern 1.3-1 ratio
its not an easy short pattern what so ever
after league, i moved much farther out and used the Blk Hammer with some promising results, I have to be a bit smoother and slower than I was with something stronger, but if I get around it a little and stay way out and up the lane, the BH is very predictable

the new BH is not like any of the other recent Urethane "like"remakes IMO

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Re: NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2015, 11:44:29 AM »
Rather than polish, just take the surface up to 2000, 3000, or even 4000.  I think 500 box is too aggressive in todays environment.  If you are trying to control the back ends but still need that much surface, you would be better off with something like an Arson Low Flare solid than urethane.  The advantage of urethane is being able to keep the ball in front of you without covering boards.  At 500 grit you blow up the heads quickly and get forced in to adjustments that don't match up with urethane very well. 

Maybe you high rev, high speed guys can find more uses for such an aggressive shell than this admittedly low rev low speed stroker. 

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Re: NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2015, 02:09:15 PM »
Just an update.  It does polish but it takes a little bit of work.   I had to sand it up to 4000 and then applied some Factory Finish. It's not a marble, but it gets it to push much better than box which is way too strong.

I've been using it on a USBC Blue and it's been great.  It's still a little early so I wish I hadn't gone with such a strong layout.  Definitely the old school "urethane" early hook with roll but it's perfect for how I want to attack this pattern when the friction gets high.  I can get in with resin, but carry is really suspect and urethane allows me to stay much farther right. 

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Re: NEW - Black Urethane Ball - Released 10/13/15
« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2015, 09:45:27 PM »
I threw mind for the first time today. It was late this afternoon after all the activity with the senior leagues in the morning and the youth leagues in the early afternoon. I wouldn't call the condition dry, but it was certainly a chopped up and pushed down THS. It's exactly what I was looking for as a first test of the ball.
 
It was fun to throw. The 500 grit finish OOB definitely wasn't too much. I squared up over the 5 board, and had a nice controlled shot to the pocket. If I threw too hard, it was definitely a 5 pin, or on two occasions over the three games, a 5-7 and an 8-10. But after two games of adjusting speed and rotation to the ball, I threw a clean 235. 
 
It's definitely old school Urethane with a modern core. I can see this ball as a go to in those situations where the lanes get too squarely for resin. We're bowling on Kegel 'Eiffel Tower' in my sport league, which breaks down quickly. I'm hoping this new Black Hammer will be the answer when the mids go and I can't keep anything else right of the head pin.