Go deep and watch it peel back. 

Quote from: Rightycomplex on August 25, 2012, 04:20:27 PM

Quote from: ithinkican on August 22, 2012, 01:32:15 PM

hammer needs to get away from that core and find something better. all they do is redesign the same ball over and over and over again. its been out since 2005. find something better and get with the program

Considering the price of R&D to develop a core, if you can get away with using a proven core and upgrading the cover then do so........ i.e. bullwhip and cobra s.e., taboo jet black and deep purple, vibes, thunderroad series.

Although, i do understand why the price point is so high, i do agree that 165 is too much to pay for an upgraded version of the black widow.

  Yah, the price is high for a recycled core, but people are willing to pay it, so why wouldn't they keep using that core.

Well, thats my point. I agree it's too much to pay, however, they are selling. Its more of the consumer than the company pricing. They could raise the price to $200 per ball and as long as people continued to buy it, they would sell it at $200. Now if they make a High Performance ball, and it bombs in sales, then you'll see the price come down.

Well, wouldn't they sell a lot more if they lowered the price? Yeah, the core is awesome. I'll give it that much. If it moves like my Break did, bravo. Quit price gouging. With it being in 7 retired balls (Yes, the Big Blue Pearl had it without the pancake), and 5 Taboos (I guess, couldn't find the OG Taboo on hammerbowling.com), I think you've made your money, and more, back for R&D.

To make a similar comparision, 900/AMF have used the Break core in the Eagle, and lowered the price, are now using the Bank core in the Green Mamba, and lowered the price, are using the Bounty core in the Grip, and lowered the price, using a slightly modified Code core in the Hook series, and REALLY lowered the price.

your attacking me like i hate hammer or something. I believe the ancient gas mask core should be retired or the price should go down...  a balls over all performance now days are more based on coverstocks rather than cores. no matter whether it is symmetrical or asymmetrical. perfect example about coverstocks. hammer came out with the taboo blue silver and the taboo spare. same core. different coverstocks... which is gonna out perform the other? unless on a demanding pattern,. the blue/silver would drastically out perform the spare.... i am gonna compare my next point with storm's road series. storms road series started at 105 bucks on bowlingball.com years ago. and yes, the road series has had the inverted fe technology core powering it for a while, until recently when they changed to the new inverted fe^3 technology core in 2011. due to inflation and rising cost of materials, the cost of that bowling ball series by storm has gone up....  14 bucks in a span of 7 years!!!!     so im gonna say it again.. hammer needs to get with the program and step up its core design game. it seems to me like hammer is scared to step up to the challenge of producing a new core that would out perform  its ancient "GAS MASK" core..

Has anyone tested this ball yet, I could care less about the reusing of the core. i didnt own the original, i do own the Jet Black and love it.

I drilled up a Deep Purple Wednesday and only have 5 games on it at most (2 different houses) but what I noticed is that is has a very distinct crack at the pins that's different from my current stuff.  I never threw a Taboo before so I don't know if it's the gas mask core or the fresh cover but I am very pleased with what I am seeing so far.  My wife just ordered a Jet Black so if I like what I see out of that I may get one also.

The deep purple actually appears to be similar to Roto Grip's Critical Theory where the sanded pearl cover will offer length with maximum backend.  The CT is really good on medium-heavy or when the heavy oil starts to carry down, so I would think this Taboo is very comparable in that way.

If you want a Nano replacement with the solid cover, you may want to check the Track 912T.  Now that ball is very comparable to the Nano where it offers a ton of traction in the oil but is smoother, more forgiving, and seems to carry better overall.  It's also stronger than the original Taboo solid.