Post by: Beef STL on October 16, 2005, 05:18:22 AM
Anyone else's opinions on this? Has anyone heard details about this?
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Post by: sportbowler on October 16, 2005, 01:33:30 PM
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Post by: Beef STL on October 16, 2005, 01:38:21 PM
Well, we were told yesterday that USBC gave the approval for it...
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-Ricky-
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Post by: a_ak57 on October 16, 2005, 01:39:28 PM
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- Andy
Post by: sportbowler on October 16, 2005, 02:14:07 PM
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Well, we were told yesterday that USBC gave the approval for it...
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-Ricky-
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Current Arsenal: MoRich WMB, MoRich Total Shock & Awe, Brunswick Punisher, , Ebonite Eyeball, Brunswick Ultimate Infero, and Brunswick Impact Zone #2.
What was the USBC smoking when they approved that???
Do they want people to cheat??
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Post by: azus on October 16, 2005, 02:55:03 PM
And how do you check so someone dont have put some metal etc in the core? Why USBC allows this is a mystery for me..
Post by: a_ak57 on October 16, 2005, 03:30:05 PM
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Yeah, but that's an odd joke though, right?
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Post by: thfonz98 on October 16, 2005, 03:49:05 PM
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I have a problem..i'm a fluffer
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Post by: Hex017 on October 16, 2005, 08:11:57 PM
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Post by: DrillLord on October 16, 2005, 08:32:22 PM
1st: What do you mean by leave it for an hour??? OK, If you leave it for an hour it is a dry lane ball. What happens two days later when it "hooks a lot"???
2nd: All cores must meet USBC RG and Diff regulations, can we be sure that these balls will meet regulations when we "pour our own cores"???
3rd: What should I do when a person brings me a ball that he/she poured by themselves??? What are they putting in the core??? What if somebody takes a $h!T in the core, is it my responsibility to make sure that it conforms to USBC regulations?
I have contacted Visionary about this and they don't seem to know anything about this.
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Post by: a_ak57 on October 16, 2005, 08:35:00 PM
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This isnt BS guys I was at the same tournament as Ricky. I actually put some raffle tickets in for some ball(s) visionary was giving away at the tourney. The idea really doesn't make sense to me but I heard the same thing. I'm interested to see where this goes...
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If it really is true and you two aren't just teaming up to pull one over on us, then Visionary must have the best engineers in the business. I just can't even think of how to make a ball where pouring a core and letting it sit for some amount of time determines it's reactivity. What about the cover? Wouldn't that suggest that cover is nearly irrelevant since you can apparently use the same cover for a toast ball and a 60' flood monster??...
Just don't make sense...
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Post by: DrillLord on October 16, 2005, 08:36:36 PM
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Post by: xratedbowler on October 16, 2005, 08:57:50 PM
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Post by: a_ak57 on October 16, 2005, 09:20:34 PM
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I don't see how leaving it for a period of time THEN drilling it would affect anything, because whether or not you leave it for an hour, 3, or over night its gonna be in there forever reguardless. Or do you pour it back out?
I was wondering the same exact thing...
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Which is why this is 99.9% chance of pure BS, or like I said Visionary has the greatest minds at work.
Oh well, good work Ricky, you've gotten some people riled up and others just scratching their heads.
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Post by: Beef STL on October 16, 2005, 09:30:49 PM
I'm just passing on the information that was announced at the Gateway tournament At Knittigs on Saturday morning this past weekend. Anyone there can attest to this.
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Current Arsenal: MoRich WMB, MoRich Total Shock & Awe, Brunswick Punisher, , Ebonite Eyeball, Brunswick Ultimate Infero, and Brunswick Impact Zone #2.
Post by: scotts33 on October 16, 2005, 09:39:37 PM
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We just had this announced at a tournament here in St. Louis about how Visionary just got the approval for a new ball that you pour your own core in.
Who made the announcement and at what tournament?
Scott
Post by: Beef STL on October 16, 2005, 09:42:59 PM
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Who made the announcement and at what tournament?
Scott
The person that runs the Gateway tournaments.
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Current Arsenal: MoRich WMB, MoRich Total Shock & Awe, Brunswick Punisher, , Ebonite Eyeball, Brunswick Ultimate Infero, and Brunswick Impact Zone #2.
Post by: scotts33 on October 16, 2005, 09:44:40 PM
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The person that runs the Gateway tournaments.
Who is this person? Any validity or all BS?
Scott
Post by: DanH78 on October 16, 2005, 09:51:41 PM
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Post by: charlest on October 16, 2005, 09:53:02 PM
If the USBC wouldn't allow Lane#1 to reissue a ball SOLELY by polishing it, do you really think they'd approve a ball whose core is made and poured by the bowler??
Say, do you fill it with lead shot before pouring the core to lower the RG
AND
do you fill it with styrofoam before pouring to raise the RG?
Hysterical! ROTFLMAO many, many times!
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Post by: scotts33 on October 16, 2005, 09:58:36 PM
This is so far out in left field that anyone that believes this BS deserves to join ranks of the other jr. weezers.
Makes sense someone is having fun with the other lil jr. throwers.
Scott
Post by: Beef STL on October 16, 2005, 10:00:25 PM
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Wow, you people will believe anything. You're getting all fired up at the USBC over something that someone heard at a JUNIOR TOURNAMENT! There's nothing on Bowl.com and the most recent Visionary ball was approved back in February.
I didn't post it to get people fired up. I just posted it, because it's all they were talking about Saturday and I thought I'd pass the information on to you all here, since I'm a frequent visitor to this site.
We'll all just have to wait and see what Visionary has up their sleeves.
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-Ricky-
Member of the St. Louis, Missouri YABA
MORE Speed = LESS time to PANIC
Current Arsenal: MoRich WMB, MoRich Total Shock & Awe, Brunswick Punisher, , Ebonite Eyeball, Brunswick Ultimate Infero, and Brunswick Impact Zone #2.
Edited on 10/16/2005 9:53 PM
Post by: a_ak57 on October 16, 2005, 10:01:01 PM
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Please, folks, remove thine head from thine rectum.
If the USBC wouldn't allow Lane#1 to reissue a ball SOLELY by polishing it, do you really think they'd approve a ball whose core is made and poured by the bowler??
Say, do you fill it with lead shot before pouring the core to lower the RG
AND
do you fill it with styrofoam before pouring to raise the RG?
Hysterical! ROTFLMAO many, many times!
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Edited on 10/16/2005 9:45 PM
If a ball like this was approved, would that mean the infamous Detonator Pro with the explodothane coverstock would finally be put in production?
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- Andy
Post by: scotts33 on October 16, 2005, 10:05:48 PM
You've been had BeefSTL. It's so idiotic ROFLMO. Kids believe anything and whoever starts this BS had all of you going.
Scott
Post by: Hex017 on October 16, 2005, 10:11:34 PM
To me it sounds like they are advertising a ball you can make to your own wants rather than buying what is already created, I mean who wouldn't want to make a ball of their own. Does it mean that any bowler is just pouring covering around a core and wham we have a new ball....no. Does it mean that rg and diff values are going to way out of limits...no.(Not sure how you think this could lead to cheating Ricky, I'm sure this design will be highly controlled if the USBC has any brains) Just a heads up on what could be to come....if you still think this is complete BS and we are playing you all like fools sorry for your time, but I am just going with what I heard...
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-Life is like a coin, you can spend it any way you want, but you can only spend it once.
-Failure is not an option. It is a privelage reserved only for those who try.
Post by: scotts33 on October 17, 2005, 07:34:05 AM
I've got to re-up my test staff membership anyway so I'll be calling to see what's up with this changeable ball. I still have a hard time understanding how average Joe bowler is going to be able to work on his equipment to change core or cover.
Scott
Post by: VBPadvertising on October 17, 2005, 10:38:53 AM
While we are always working on a number of projects to advance our position in the industry and always try to stay ahead of the game with core and coverstocks, this liquid core ball does not exist.
In reality, it would be possible to make a ball that would work similar to this (maybe not handle extremely heavy oil), but the USBC would never allow a ball like this to be approved. All balls must be manufactured and sold without any voids in the ball (Even though the intention would be to fill the void). It would just leave way too many unknowns; RG, RG Differential, Coefficent of Restitution, etc.
Thanks,
Jason Wonders
Visionary Bowling Products
Post by: xratedbowler on October 18, 2005, 06:06:59 PM
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Post by: scotts33 on October 19, 2005, 09:52:02 AM
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Thanks for comming on here and clearing everything up for everybody Jason. I am glad that the issue was taken care of because the controversy on here was starting to get a little bit edgy.
That's why I let Jason and the guys know. ALways better to get your info. from the horses mouth.
Scott