Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Specifications are as follows:
Color: Navy/Green Sanded
Ebonite Hook Rating (Scale 1-30): 28.48
Ball Speed: Faster
Axis Rotation: Minimal Side Roll
Available Weights: 12-16 Pounds
Axis Tilt: Low Track
Revolutions: Low/Medium Revs
Best Lane Oil Condition: Heavier Oil
Backend Condition: Carrydown
RG: 2.480
Diff: .050
Post by: striker300 on July 21, 2001, 04:57:16 PM
Post by: ballard2 on August 08, 2001, 10:42:46 PM
just punched a dominator today, have just one thing to say--WOW!
with a 4 by 4 layout which is similar to a vortex 2 that used to be my go to ball - the dominator should prove to be an incredible addition to any arsenal.
This ball sails through the heads with no trouble then reads the midlane as well as any ball i've had the pleasure to use and when it turns for the pocket the angle and hit are just fantastic. a " must have " in the category of strong reactive balls.
Post by: Drillmn300 on August 15, 2001, 03:55:43 PM
Drill
Post by: Phatdon on August 22, 2001, 01:10:45 PM
8-25-01
Polished it to 1500 with Ebonite Factory Finish Polish. Goes a little longer and reacts a little less aggressively, but still very strong.
9-1-01
Polished further to 2000. Still very aggressive but now have some control over it. Now able to throw it with same delivery as the rest of my equipment. Too much finger results in too much hook. Once I pull my head out and settle down to lane adjustments, the ball works quite well. Now standing 22, throwing 13 to 7, 16.5mph, with my natural release. Not overly aggressive but still makes the turn where expected. Have also found it needs to be cleaned more often than most balls. Using Powerhouse Cleaner and/or Powerhouse ball wipes after 12 games seems to work best.
Post by: mrpc12 on August 29, 2001, 01:05:01 PM
***UPDATE**** Just shot my first ever 300 game with this ball on 9-12-01. (756 series)
Post by: Drillmn300 on August 29, 2001, 01:57:03 PM
Drill
Post by: Jace Peterson on November 29, 2001, 01:28:12 PM
I drilled this ball pin 3 inches from PAP and 1 inch above mid line of grip.
CG just above thumb, and the bomb on grip center line. For a resin ball this ball flat out hooks. Very fast revving through mid lane, strong move towards the pocket. The ball will set if you open the lane too much, however if you can get the ball to set at the pocket you will strike forvever. This ball gave me a look that I did not have on oil. Do not make the mistake of over looking the reaction this ball can give you.
Post by: Garcia on December 13, 2001, 01:21:32 AM
I drilled this ball weaker because I heard the Dominator could be polished to mellow out the strong shell. My intention was to use the Dominator when conditions were demanding and hitting the pocket was a challenge. The core was similiar to an Apex block, which for me was very heavy rolling. Polish and weak pin placement allowed the Dominator to clear the heads easily, while the strong core allowed it to pick up a heavy roll on the backend. Smooth control without over-reaction, great for sport conditions.
Xeno Garcia
Ebonite Regional Staff
Post by: Jim Lewis on December 17, 2001, 01:43:45 PM
Jim Lewis
Ebonite Regional Staff
Post by: dime on January 26, 2002, 07:08:47 PM
Post by: REVOLUTIONS PS on February 24, 2002, 08:01:41 PM
We have drilled quite a few of these balls for a wide range of styles from the straighter players with less hand to the more powerful players who get up behind the ball. Rather than list all the drill patters we used we will make reference to the bomb placement as well as the pin location and shell preparation.
The straighter players liked the Dominator in it's out of the box dull but smooth shell. This allowed them to move the ball on the back end without the big snap. They preferred pins between three and four inches from the axis and 10:30 bomb angles. On dry back ends this type of layout and shell could be a little much for the slower speeds but the 12:00 bombs were more angular and therefore much too strong for those players. We almost exclusively bowl on fresh back ends at our home house, so we were looking for reactions that were controllable for those who don't like the big snap at the back. To that end, we kept the bomb away from the 12:00 position for those players. The carry for the straight players was excellent with this ball as well.
The guys who turn the ball with some speed weren't nearly as likely to have problems with the more angular move that the 12:00 bomb layouts produced. We drilled the Matrix with pins in the 5" range for these players (pin next to the ring finger) and bomb placements at all three angles depending on that players preferred line to the pocket. If the player was inside and wanted to snap the ball, we went ahead and used the 12:00 position, if they were more likely to want an earlier break and a longer roll (stop) on the back end, we used the 10:30. If they were playing straighter down the boards, we used the 1:30 angle. The carry was in the upper class for sure, the heavier handed are likely to leave a few 9 pins with this ball. Another thing we noticed was even when polished, the Dominator will really hook-stop for the guys who have less axis rotation. The players who come up the back of the ball and who were bowling on fresh back ends were seeing the ball snap very sharply and then stop, which wasn't necessarily a bad thing. It didn't interfere with the carry as long as shots weren't sent out way wide of target.
We were bowling on a condition that was high scoring and with a newer lane oil which is supposed to resist break down but we still noticed that the first time out with the Dominator we never moved our feet for three league games. That may indicate that it is less sensitive to the lanes changing as some of the newer hook monsters.
The Dominator should give most any player all the hook they need, pin crushing power and the ability to tweak the shell for most league conditions. If you want a ball that you can swing into the dryer part of the lane and be sure it will come back strong, this is for you. Ebonite currently has one of the very best lines of equipment in all of bowling and this is one of the best balls in that line.
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Post by: Leftyhi-trak on February 25, 2002, 12:42:27 PM
15lbs,3 pin, 2.8 top
Drilled 65 degree layout with 5" pin distance. Pin under ring
Surface adjustment: Polished to 1500
Me- Power stroker, up the back or 45 degree roll, 16-18mph
Bought this ball after attending 2 Ebonite Demo Days. Have tried it at 3 different houses. All have had med-dry to med-heavy conditions. Although a fairly weak pattern this ball has exhibitted great control. With good revs and up the back roll this ball will hold on a slight tug and you can play a swing by changing hand position. What really impressed me was I never felt lost, great control with really hard hit but no back pins except when got really around the ball. Would really recommend this ball to everyone but down and inners should love the pot money they will make from the rev-men. This ball is a good compliment to the Vortex II. The two rolls earlier with great control and this rolls later with the same control for my style. 9 out of 10 sticks/need more evaluation or a 300/800 ring to make a 10.
Post by: parlevelplayer on February 25, 2002, 03:00:59 PM
Now the results:
For about 4-months since purchasing this ball I had just average success, and now once I changed my release to more of a stroker style. The results were more predickable. Now just this past sunday (2/24/02) during my monthly 700 club tournament I proceeded to bowl a 711 series (233,232,246)and I placed second in singles and first place in doubles.I was very impress with Ebonite equipment and I plan to update all my equipment to Ebonite's
Parlevelplayer
Post by: James Campbell on February 25, 2002, 07:47:04 PM
James Campbell
Ebonite Regional Staff
Post by: BuddiesProShopcom - Bill on March 04, 2002, 02:36:48 PM
I have this ball laid out with the pin beside the ring finger and the bomb in the strong position.
This ball is great for medium - heavier oil. On the heavy-heavy oil this ball didn't move that much. I have been averaging very well with this ball over the last couple of months and it have become the ball i use to read the condition with.
With the layout that I have the ball, it is clean through the heads and then gives me a smooth midlane reaction with a controlled move to the pocket. When the heads dry out the ball losses too much energy up front to have the drive in the pocket. If I changed the box condition, and polished this ball, I am sure it would be a great ball for the drier shots.
I give this ball an 8, because I have been able to use it on a variety of conditions and think it would fit nicely into a lot of bowler's games. I think that with the right surface adjustments, this ball could be used on almost the any condition.
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Post by: Bob and Steves Pro Shop on March 26, 2002, 04:59:02 AM
I drilled my dominator to hook stop. 1/2 neg the ball hit so hard it crush the pins. the pin was at 1;30 and my ring finger was 1/2 above the pin
Post by: REVOLUTIONS PS on April 07, 2002, 10:56:49 AM
The problem is that less than two months after drilling this ball, it seems to have ‘softened' and does not carry nearly as well as it did. I have NOT put much faith in all this talk about balls "dying" but I must admit that this ball appears to have done just that. Being a pro shop operator, I am able to maintain my equipment better than most but that has not prevented this ball from a noticeable drop in performance.
Our shop has seen some similar problems with the Predator and Vortex III but we were attributing this to a lack of cleaning and maintenance. We now are a little concerned that perhaps some of the Ebonite (and other companies) balls with thinner shells are more likely to lose performance sooner than those with thicker shells. We are planning an experiment over the summer that will help us determine whether there is an advantage to thicker shells when it comes to life spans. I will then post an update on the forum.
If you have any questions regarding this topic or any other reviews of ours, e-mail us at: proshop@bowlero.com
Post by: PreachrBowlr on July 25, 2002, 09:03:49 AM
Ball specs: 16 lbs, pin directly above fingers and bomb at 12:00.
I have found this ball to be particularly useful if there is some carry-down. I did have a little trouble with it in a tournament recently where there were fresh back-ends. It “jumped†too much for my taste.
I read in a review that this ball, because of the strength of the cover, would often “roll-outâ€, but not to worry, because this would not affect the carry. I have, so far, found this to be true.
I read in another review that this ball had “died†on several users. I have not experienced this yet, despite using it weekly in a summer league and despite not maintaining it (a couple of coats of “Control-It†– nothing more).
To summarize, I believe for bowlers like me (stroker, medium revs, low-to-medium speed, more forward- than side-roll), the Dominator is an excellent and often overlooked choice. It has an easy-to-read ball reaction and has excellent carry (many, many tripped ten-pins, just like my hero Earl Anthony with the slow-falling sevens) - what else does a bowler need?
DannCamp
Post by: Perfect Approach Pro Shop on August 11, 2002, 10:30:36 AM
Post by: PreachrBowlr on October 16, 2002, 09:03:04 PM
Many reviewers have posted that this ball was great at first, and then it died.
So far, that hasn't happened to me.
Maybe the problem is some of you guys are giving the ball too much maintenance!
I certainly haven't. I don't even clean it.Since league began, I have only gone under 600 three times (once with a knee injury - shot a 485 that night).
In spite of my ill-fated 485, I am still averaging over 200!
Last week: 275/665
This week: 289/728
Gets to the pocket and carries everything. Great ball!
And, of course, Ebonite has canceled it. Thanks.
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DannCamp
Post by: Stroke65 on January 08, 2003, 10:55:14 AM
Had several high games with this ball.
After about 3 months the ball started getting weaker and weaker.
Thought at first it was me, i experimented with my other balls for several months comparing them on different lane condidtions.
Finally i soaked the ball to remove oil and resurfaced it. The ball was better but still didnt act like it used to. After about 6 games it was back to nothing again.
Have to say i really liked this ball at first but ended up being a big disapointment.
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Stroke65
Post by: bOwLiNgPiMp243 on November 26, 2004, 03:53:57 PM
Lane Conditions: Medium Oil
Typical Conditions: Variety of Shots
Type of Lane: All Synthetic
What part of the lane did you play? Outside First Arrow
Did the ball track out? Slow
Weight of bowling ball: 15
Surface of bowling ball: Sanded
What grit was the surface of the ball? 320
Likes: Some what versitle
Dislikes: the drilling and the space between the pin and CG
Dave Olm(The Beastist bowler/my boss/owner of the proshop/awesome person) gave me this in hope that it would fufill my needs......... well i like the way i drilled the oval and thats about it..... its slow to react and i even sanded it.... well i guess the reason was because of the drilling.. Think if the ring finger was a clock... the pin was @ 4pm...lol and the cg was an inch away! so i had no room to make it react normally... so yea... It was the thought that counted....... THANX DAVE and once again this part requires 100 words so im gonna talk... GO DAVE OLM PRO SHOP! LOCATED IN THE BEaUTIFUL CROWN LANES! THERES bOB BURNS, DALE KOLESAR,dAVE OLM, WILL NOLTE AND BILL MALLETTE.. NOW IF THEY HAD A 5 MAN LEAGUE... THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME TEAM... BUT IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN... CUZ SOME ONE HAS TO WATCH THE PROSHOP!!!!!