Post by: mijakame on February 09, 2011, 11:38:50 AM
Blurb from BJI:
• Phil Cardinale has founded Radical Bowling LLC, a new bowling ball company specializing in the creation and distribution of high-performance bowling balls. Cardinale, who spent the last three years in charge of sales and marketing for 900 Global, left that company at the end of 2010 to start Radical Bowling. “After decades of accumulating knowledge on the development and manufacturing of bowling balls, I felt it was time to use that experience out on my own,” Cardinale said. “I wish to create the best bowling balls for bowlers of any skill level, particularly mid- to high-average bowlers looking to improve their score and level of play.” Info: www.radicalbowling.com
This link does not appear to be working yet.
Anyone have any other information?
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Post by: JustRico on February 09, 2011, 07:41:48 PM
Great just what the industry needs another ball company
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Post by: kidlost2000 on February 09, 2011, 08:07:40 PM
Can't wait to see what they have to offer. Website doesn't appear to exist yet.
Be good, or be good at it.
Post by: scotts33 on February 09, 2011, 10:44:06 PM
Scott
Post by: pjm845 on February 10, 2011, 03:21:38 AM
I thought Phil owned Global 900? Was he just partnering with someone else?
Post by: tdub36tjt on February 10, 2011, 03:14:01 PM
Post by: kidlost2000 on February 10, 2011, 04:39:09 PM
Where else did he work/own? Was it Dynothane? Did he ever work for Track?
Be good, or be good at it.
Post by: stormed1 on February 10, 2011, 10:43:40 PM
Phil was with Track back in the Enforcer/T-Shark days, late 80's/early 90's
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Post by: kidlost2000 on February 10, 2011, 11:05:44 PM
I thought he was with Track at one point or another.
I just drilled up a 15lb Track Synergy ETS to start the season. The ball is every bit as good as the one I had back in 97. Hate that I sold the NIB Synergy Pearl last year, but decided to only keep one.
Be good, or be good at it.
Post by: bowlingnut76 on February 11, 2011, 03:31:12 AM
ok hmmm lets assume that 900 global pours thier balls right.....doesnt that make them 900 global balls under a differnt name.. what im trying to say is 900 global is trying to sell more product under a differnt name? or im 100% totaly wrong on this
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Post by: 3835 on February 11, 2011, 04:54:39 AM
Could be, but it also could be the same relationship as Lane 1 has with Global. Completely different company, but Global pours for Lane 1. I would not consider Lane 1 another brand of Global, unlike Ebonite with Hammer/Track/Columbia.
Same can be said when Banger was poured by Visionary. Completely different company, but someone had to pour Banger's stuff.
3835
Edited by 3835 on 2/11/2011 at 5:55 AM
Post by: qstick777 on February 11, 2011, 06:56:33 PM
Interesting. I wonder if there was a fall out or something between Phil and the other guys?
http://www.manta.com/c/mm3cffq/dynothane - says that Phil is/was the owner of 900global.
Original press release said "Mike Sellers and Phil Cardinale, former VPs of Columbia Industries, have joined forces to form 900 Global LLC.........Joining Mike Sellers (Operations) and Phil Cardinale (Sales and Marketing) will be Eric Thomas (Sales), Dale Garner (Sales / Customer Service), Dan Speranza (Operations) and George Brooks (Operations). "
Another article about the remote control bowling ball had him listed at the "co-CEO."
Also seen him labeled at the "President" of 900global.
I remember back after C300 was bought out that Phil alluded to starting up 900global. Don't have the exact words or anything, but something along the lines that Ebonite didn't really want the factory and couldn't use all the equipment, so if somebody had money saved up they could theoretically buy the stuff and start making their own balls.........a little while later we had 900global.
Either way, if it is true then good for him. If the balls are good they will find a place in the market. The first "original" 900g ball was great (Break S70).
Post by: Hogsharley on February 11, 2011, 07:35:56 PM
Good luck Phil.
Phil was one of the original employee's of Star Traxx which later became Track. He's one's of the pioneer's of the modern bowling ball. I'm sure whatever Phil and Radical Bowling decide to put on the market will be a hit.
3 holes of fun!!
Post by: Brickguy221 on February 11, 2011, 08:29:03 PM
I also thought Phil owned Global 900....
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Post by: retiredbowler on February 13, 2011, 05:40:34 PM
Phil WAS NOT an employee of Star Traxx! Never! Dick Haas owned Star Trak, and he purchased urethane from Phil Cardinale and Paul Seegot. When Dick fell behind in his payments, Phil started Track, Inc. using the materials he sold Dick Haas. Track, Inc. was made in the Star Trak plant. Phil sold Dick Haas the cheap urethane. They ended up in a lawsuit. When Dick Haas paid off his debt, (Phil actually sued Dick is why I hate him), Phil sold Track Inc. and all the machines to make bowling balls to Columbia 300 and he then started Dynothane. Dick Haas regrouped with investors George Pappas and Tom Kouros and he started Star Traxx in 1990 and was gone again by 1992.
Dick Hass: Star Trak 1975-1989
Dick Hass: Star Traxx 1990-1992
Phil Cardinale: Track, Inc. 1989-1991
Phil Cardinale: Columbia- Dynothane 1992-2007
Phil Cardinale: 900 Global 2007-2010
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Post by: BeansProShop on February 13, 2011, 09:59:41 PM
If they're good.....I'll sell them...
Just hope they are poured in the USA....
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Post by: kidlost2000 on February 13, 2011, 11:41:57 PM
This applies to any company already. You will never notice if one more comes and goes, or stays. Maybe if they do good EBI will buy them.
Be good, or be good at it.
Post by: newguy on February 16, 2011, 11:47:06 AM
web site is being worked on and should be up shortly. I'm looking forward to another successful venture
Post by: Gunny on February 16, 2011, 07:52:22 PM
Please tell me there's gonna be another S75 type cover.......
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Post by: TTforshort on February 16, 2011, 08:06:14 PM
Phil, I have been using your equipment for a long time. I am looking forward to trying some of the new stuff.
TT
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Post by: newguy on February 17, 2011, 11:35:59 AM
Thanks for the support guys, I'm sure we will have some fun with the new stuff. I'm also sure some "soaker" will reappear. First ball will be out soon. Asym. .020 mid diff. Pearl. Details to follow.....Going Radical
Post by: retiredbowler on February 17, 2011, 02:15:19 PM
Remember to give Dick Haas some credit for your success!
Good Luck with your new venture! I have never seen a 900 Global ball in person except for one. Good luck selling Radical Bowling. How about having a rep in our area next time? Maybe you will sell some balls in Nashville!
MT
Post by: T_Bone on February 18, 2011, 10:55:32 AM
Count me in Phil! I can't wait to try your new stuff!
Edited by T_Bone on 2/18/2011 at 12:01 PM
Post by: Juggernaut on February 18, 2011, 11:57:25 AM
Think AZO (which is actually Storm, isn't it?) will want to sue over the name (because they had a ball named Radical, right?).
I mean, we DO have the Mission $250K now, don't we? Wasn't that because Storm already had used the name DOMINATION?
"Yeah, I throw AMF. What's it to ya"? 
Post by: batbowler on February 20, 2011, 11:04:09 AM
Brunswick also had a ball called Radical Inferno!!!!! They can have a company called Radical Bowling cause it's not a company name!!!
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Post by: Hoselrockets on February 20, 2011, 11:25:38 AM
THB
Post by: RealBowler on February 21, 2011, 06:09:35 PM
Yep, dying segment. I guess that's why ALL the companies are putting out new balls at a record pace? I guess somebody is buying all this equipment? If not, maybe they are going to donate to the US gov't to build a fence along the border!
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Post by: Yanker on February 22, 2011, 07:27:51 AM
If it ain't working, change scents.
Post by: newguy on February 25, 2011, 11:23:39 AM
First ball poured and being cut now. Should be out in 2-3 weeks after USBC approval.
Post by: 3835 on February 25, 2011, 11:28:11 AM
Can we ask who is pouring?
3835
Post by: newguy on February 25, 2011, 12:07:33 PM
You can ask!!
Post by: Juggernaut on February 25, 2011, 12:11:41 PM
OK, who's pouring?
"Yeah, I throw AMF. What's it to ya"?
Post by: newguy on February 25, 2011, 12:21:35 PM
First launch Global.
Post by: kidlost2000 on February 25, 2011, 12:21:41 PM
Or maybe a clue.....
Are they being poured in Texas?
Be good, or be good at it.
Post by: qstick777 on February 25, 2011, 12:53:21 PM
Name?
Colors?
Where can we get them?
Post by: 3835 on February 25, 2011, 01:04:08 PM
Ok, the way you gave the answer begs this question. After the first launch, will Global pour the subsequent runs as well, or is this a case of how the original Breaks were poured by Storm for a batch before the plant was up and running for Global to pour their own Breaks? If so, who is pouring the subsequent runs?
3835
Post by: newguy on February 25, 2011, 01:51:45 PM
Give me a few days to get the balls to USBC before I release the name etc.
They will be available through all the normal channels, have your shops contact their distributor. We made a limited first run, so if you want to try'em get 'em reserved.
Post by: Gunny on February 25, 2011, 07:10:50 PM
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Post by: newguy on February 25, 2011, 08:04:52 PM
You can wait, you know it will be good. I will say, the cover has an additive!!!!
Rg diff mid diff
16#: 2.47/.045/.025
15#: 2.47/.045/.025
14#: 2.49/.040/.025
Pearl.
Post by: sluggo35 on February 26, 2011, 12:01:12 AM
when will the website be up?
Post by: newguy on February 26, 2011, 10:09:05 AM
shooting for mid week
Post by: jls on February 28, 2011, 09:00:26 AM
Good luck Mr. Phil...
Will definitely bring your new release in for stock...
jls
Post by: mijakame on February 28, 2011, 10:37:26 AM
A low RG soaker(?) pearl - nice way to start.
Throwing rocks at sticks...Does it get any better than this?
Post by: newguy on February 28, 2011, 01:31:07 PM
Always, as you know not the first Rodeo.
Post by: Gunny on February 28, 2011, 07:44:52 PM
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Post by: icefiction on February 28, 2011, 08:05:39 PM
Phil,
I was wondering if you could give us a little insight into what it is that you are planning to do with your new company that will set it apart from others?
Post by: newguy on March 01, 2011, 02:00:54 PM
Post by: Medichal on March 01, 2011, 02:14:31 PM
Phil good luck with your new ball company . ParaMedic Hal Eisenman
Post by: Cobalt Bomb on March 01, 2011, 02:57:47 PM
Phil, have you made any decision yet on product registration with the PBA?
Thanks for your time
Post by: newguy on March 01, 2011, 03:03:04 PM
Post by: nocarey on March 01, 2011, 03:11:51 PM
Post by: Hoselrockets on March 01, 2011, 03:46:43 PM
Yes dying segment or should I say sport? What rock do you live under that you not aware of the facts that competitive bowling is dying? Record pace? Compared to what? Just because the major guys are still building too many balls that are flooding the market doesnt' mean there is room for yet another ball company. Like I said before I wish Phil all the luck in the world because it's a tough nut to crack.
THB
Post by: newguy on March 01, 2011, 04:11:34 PM
Post by: Hoselrockets on March 01, 2011, 05:00:39 PM
Phil,
The answer to your question is NO the industry hasn't helped itself with the transition of the bowling business. Now most everyone is scratching their heads on trying to figure out what happened and how to fix it. The industry missed out on so many opportunity's to keep people interested but IMO we failed. We are starting to see more training and education today but is it to late? Time will tell. Good luck again with your business venture, I look forward to seeing your booth at Expo.
THB
Post by: newguy on March 02, 2011, 01:27:20 PM
Website should be up by end of day Thrusday or Friday at the latest. Take a ////////
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Post by: vkowalski1970 on March 02, 2011, 02:20:06 PM
Very Interested in following your company! I will buy the first ball out! I wish you much luck and success!
My Current Arsenal:
715T................... 65x4.4x30 1000AB
505T................... 65x4.5x30 2000AB
Bank Pearl...........60x5x40 1500 polished
Dark Star.............70x3.5x40 1500 polished
Red Backlash.......80x3x40 2000 polished
Post by: dw23 on March 02, 2011, 02:30:53 PM
Phil, I have been a fan of just about every bowling ball company you have been a part of. I loved Track in the 90's and I really liked Dynothane. I look forward to some steady performing, smooth rolling, hard hitting balls like you have produced in the past (e.g. Track Triton Elites/Heat and the Dynothane Vendetta's).
Thank you,
DW
Edited by dw23 on 3/2/2011 at 3:56 PM
Post by: beachcomberjones on March 03, 2011, 08:15:52 AM
Post by: InternationalBowler on March 03, 2011, 02:01:09 PM
The new ball is called Slant
This is the info I got from Phil today:
Color: Copper/Purple Pearl
Core: Booster Core
RG 15lbs: 2.47
RG Diff.: 0.045
Mid Diff.: 0.025
Post by: kidlost2000 on March 03, 2011, 03:02:11 PM
Just a suggestion in reference to the PBA it would probably be cheaper and get more exposure just to pay to advertise during the telecast. I imagine they can use all of the ad money they can get.
Be good, or be good at it.
Post by: dw23 on March 03, 2011, 04:49:28 PM
Website is up. I like the looks of the new ball (specs and color).
DW
Post by: stormed1 on March 03, 2011, 07:08:52 PM
What will be the release date? And how/where can i order them for the shop?
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Post by: stormed1 on March 03, 2011, 07:09:05 PM
What will be the release date? And how/where can i order them for the shop?
Castaway's Bowlers Pro Shop
Calumet City,Il. 60409
(708) 862-1602
Arsenal: Aftermath,Bank Pearl,Raw Profit x 2 Break Point Pearl,Shred-it x2,Sideways x2,Profit x2, Clutch Pearl,,Heist Pearl,Hype urethane,Epicenter, Desperado,Mars, Grenade Pearl,Golden Globe
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Post by: qstick777 on March 04, 2011, 09:14:42 AM
Looks nice. Hoping these won't be too hard to get for us guys that drill our own equipment.
I assume more info on the coverstock will be forthcoming.
Post by: newguy on March 04, 2011, 12:30:57 PM
All normal channels
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Post by: Juggernaut on March 04, 2011, 01:28:50 PM
Phil,
I'm not trying to "stir the pot" so to speak, but I would like to ask you a question or so.
I've been a user of lots of AMF stuff in the past couple of years, and found that G900/AMF had much to offer and that their stuff was on par with what the "big boys" had to offer.
My question is, why the new company? Is it just another offshoot brand from the G900 parent, or is it a stand alone company?
And, are you still going to be involved at all with G900/AMF, or is that all over and you're going it out on your own again?
The reason I'm asking is, I seem to do pretty well when I throw stuff that you've had a hand in. The covers you pick, and the cores you tend to match them with, somehow always seem to be pretty good in my hands and, if your OUT at G900/AMF, I'd be more prone to try one of the Radical balls, just to get the benefit of your years of experience at making things that seem to nearly always work for me.
"Yeah, I throw AMF. What's it to ya"?
Post by: newguy on March 04, 2011, 01:51:21 PM
Jugger
You have a way with words, I am a total seperate entity, no longer involved with Global. You can expect the same performance from me you had seen in the past and hopefully as in SLANT a new look as well. thanks for the kind words and support.
Phil
Post by: BOWLGNUT on March 04, 2011, 02:42:06 PM
They will be available to the consumers in about 10 days. All our
testing is done here in San Antonio, we use several levels of bowlers on
various lane conditions.
Thanks This is from a e-mail from Phil Cardinale that I got.
Post by: Juggernaut on March 04, 2011, 03:54:51 PM
Thanks for the information Phil. It is always a good thing when the powers that be can be counted on to be open and honest with us. You have no obligation to us, yet you find the time to come and converse here with the "common man" as it were.
Love the colors of the new ball, but am wondering about that name.
The SLANT? Any significance there, or just denoting the fact that your taking a different "SLANT" on bowling balls?
"Yeah, I throw AMF. What's it to ya"?
Post by: Gunny on March 04, 2011, 06:05:20 PM
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Post by: newguy on March 05, 2011, 10:14:46 AM
visit the website for details www.radicalbowling.com
Post by: vkowalski1970 on March 05, 2011, 12:21:46 PM
Im looking for a medium/Medium dry lane ball to replace a Dark Star in my current arsenal. I am hoping this ball with a weaker layout could handle that poistion. When will it be available? What do you think of it filling that spot? I am very anxious to try this ball, I just recently bought my first 900 Global Ball which was the Bank Pearl which I love, I am going to give Radical every chance!
My Current Arsenal:
715T................... 65x4.4x30 1000AB
505T................... 65x4.5x30 2000AB
Bank Pearl...........60x5x40 1500 polished
Dark Star.............70x3.5x40 1500 polished
Red Backlash.......80x3x40 2000 polished
Post by: newguy on March 05, 2011, 01:43:30 PM
I don't know much about the Dark Star but I know Slant was tested and perfomed admirably on mediums so if you play with drilling it will do just fine.
We start shipping distributors end of week.
We start shipping distributors end of week.
Thanks
Edited by newguy on 3/5/2011 at 2:44 PM
Post by: qstick777 on March 05, 2011, 03:13:06 PM
How does the Slant core compare to the AMF Big Heist? Really hard to tell with the 2 different views (2d vs 3d), but they look like they could be similar.
Post by: billdozer on March 05, 2011, 03:39:20 PM
my arsenal..
http://s890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/_billdozer/My%20Arsenal/
Post by: qstick777 on March 05, 2011, 06:13:43 PM
Post by: mijakame on March 06, 2011, 11:54:56 AM
New Guy,
I remember online disussions from Dynothane days (just getting my Thing Returns and Threshold redrilled) where you said asymmetric cores were not as valuable as were being hyped at the time. Since then, although a lot of symmetrics are still being made, asymmetric cores (and all the asymmetric but symmetrically balanced etc. cores) completely dominate the high end ball market.
Do you remember those discussions and has your thinking on core design evolved since then?
(FWIW, I prefer the consistency and smooth role of symmetric cores, but like everyone else I have a lot of asymmetric equipment now. I think the coverstock is really where the action is anyway.)
Throwing rocks at sticks...Does it get any better than this?
Post by: newguy on March 06, 2011, 05:28:37 PM
I do recall that conversation and as you I prefer the sym roll over the aym. There have been several changes since than that have made them a necessary "evil" the most significant is the oiling patterns and volume of oil used today. Secondly is understanding the impact of mid diff. If you recall several where hyping that higher mid diff and spin times were key not much is being made of that now (why is that?). In several studies I have been involved in several studies and found that once you get above .020 mid diff that performance is not increased. Although SLANT has .025 the mid diff is simply a by product of core shape and density , using the desired shape and desnsity the additional .005 was a result, it does not add significant performance. We also learned that we can alter the shape on the lane with weight hole positioning and size and depth of the hole.
Cover stocks have come a long way since than, we have used weaker covers to allow the aym cores to match better on most patterns. Basically we have found that there is more than one way to skin a cat. atlering surfaces (4000) grit etc, reduction of additives and so on have made asym fit many different styles.
Evolution of the game I guess.
Look for ur next launch to be Sym.
Post by: Armyproud on March 06, 2011, 07:16:57 PM
An update on Radical Bowling's website at www.radicalbowling.com is now up and as the company gets up and running I think that Phil will update the website on a continues basis. He currently has two balls the Philosophy and the Slant. Phil I wish you the best of luck.
Post by: tdub36tjt on March 06, 2011, 07:23:54 PM
Post by: Armyproud on March 06, 2011, 07:26:05 PM
Phil,
I know that the company is new, but do you have an idea of when you might have any regional staff on the tour or are you going to at all? And if you are when would anyone be able to bowl with the balls at a regional level. I know that has alot to do with paying the outlandish fee that the pba charges to even be grassrooted.
Thanks,
Del P
Post by: Armyproud on March 06, 2011, 07:28:07 PM
Sorry read the website wron I thought that it was a new ball becuase of the ball on the side it was just as it says. PHILosophy
My mistake
Post by: newguy on March 23, 2011, 10:48:13 AM
SLANT is out and some early feedback is that this ball is perfect on most house conditions in box finish. Also heard about a 720 on a sport shot just this week.
Guys throwing it out of the box on house shot said it didn't over hook the dry or over skid the wet, and the carry was way above average.
On guy said he hit wit with 1000 abralon and it handled the oil very well.
The early feedback supports what my target performance was.
Post by: RealBowler on March 23, 2011, 03:28:07 PM
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in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
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Post by: Track_Fanatic on March 23, 2011, 09:04:37 PM
Just received my Slant. Looking forward to throwing it. I had it drilled with a 4 1/8" from my axis. From my understanding it is a very strong drilling but suppose to have continuation. I believe Phil had mentioned this in a different thread. Will be picking it up tomorrow. I will try and post a pic tomorrow night. This ball started out with a pin about 4" inches out. This placed the pin about an inch or so above my ring finger and to the right. MB is 1 1/2" inside my VAL.
Here's the picture. I still have to place a balance hole to bring it back to static legal. I'm open to any suggestions.
Edited by Track_Fanatic on 3/23/2011 at 9:10 PM
Edited by Track_Fanatic on 3/23/2011 at 9:12 PM
Edited by Track_Fanatic on 3/25/2011 at 4:48 PM
Post by: qstick777 on July 22, 2011, 03:17:11 PM
Yeah.....all of what he said!
Oh, and this from the wayback machine:
Posted on 8/20/2007 at 9:18 AM
Thank for the response "onlybowling"
Several things have happened since the advent of asym. balls. The epiphany came when we study the influence of the spin spot (called Mb by marketers). We found that a mid diff of 0 (sym.) and a mid diff of .010-.015 performed differently but mid diffs greater than .015 had no added influence. What we did notice was that the shape of the core not the values of the mid diff influenced the motion. So in essence its the chicken or the egg theory. Is it the numbers or is the shape the answer and the numbers simply a by-product. We, (I) have always been a proponent of geometry as all of you know. The geometric shape of the core has the greatest influence on ball performance (next to friction ) that is. So I have started to design cores based on shape not numbers. What ever numbers we get from the shape are the numbers we will use, unless of course they are out of USBC spec.
Ironically we can duplicate all the numbers of one shape in another ball by changing densities or flip blocks, but found that they do not roll the same, so shape is the culprit here not the rg's diff's and strength of mid diff.
This is simply my findings and now applications.
Several things have happened since the advent of asym. balls. The epiphany came when we study the influence of the spin spot (called Mb by marketers). We found that a mid diff of 0 (sym.) and a mid diff of .010-.015 performed differently but mid diffs greater than .015 had no added influence. What we did notice was that the shape of the core not the values of the mid diff influenced the motion. So in essence its the chicken or the egg theory. Is it the numbers or is the shape the answer and the numbers simply a by-product. We, (I) have always been a proponent of geometry as all of you know. The geometric shape of the core has the greatest influence on ball performance (next to friction ) that is. So I have started to design cores based on shape not numbers. What ever numbers we get from the shape are the numbers we will use, unless of course they are out of USBC spec.
Ironically we can duplicate all the numbers of one shape in another ball by changing densities or flip blocks, but found that they do not roll the same, so shape is the culprit here not the rg's diff's and strength of mid diff.
This is simply my findings and now applications.
Post by: joeflinn on February 26, 2015, 06:51:26 PM