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Title: Disturbed
Post by: Ballreviews on December 04, 2012, 11:06:51 AM
Roto Grip Disturbed Ball Specs:
- Color: Green/Black Solid All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Reaction: Mid-lane Control with Good Backend
- Coverstock: 66MH
- Core Type: Middle Roll 70 Core
- Factory Finish: 2000-grit Abralon
- Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.50**
- Differential (Diff): 0.043**
- ** RG and Diff are based off of 15 lb. balls
- Hook Potential: Medium
- Length: Medium
- Recommended Lane Condition: Medium-Heavy Oil

Description: The mid-performance ball by Roto Grip called the Roto Grip Disturbed grips the lanes better than it's sister the Berserk and even rolls earlier. This ball is created for the heavier oil patterns and being a solid reactive will have a better even continuation into the pocket. Whether your a Cranker, Tweener, or Stroker this ball would be a great one for you and as always they are made in the USA.
Title: Re: Disturbed Review
Post by: mikelj1a on December 25, 2012, 03:57:03 AM
LANE CONDITION

Length: 39 feet

Volume:

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): House shot


COMMENTS

Likes:I tested the Disturbed on my 39-foot house shot.  The 2000 Abralon out of the box finish matched up perfectly for this condition.

My Disturbed is drilled with the pin below the fingers with the CG kicked out toward the PAP.  This ball was clean through the front end and produced about 4-6 inches of flare.  The ball rolled strong off my hand and in the mid-lane the ball revved up nicely and made a solid, strong move to the pocket. 
This ball was devastating as it continued to drive through the pin deck (what I have come to expect from Roto Grip).

The Disturbed has a very predictable reaction, and with the 2.5 RG and .043 differential makes it a great addition for the lower rev medium speed league player.

As the lanes transition, I could simply move left, play a little deeper and continue to use this ball.  I found this ball to be a couple boards stronger than the Berserk.  The solid cover of the Disturbed allows the ball to read the fresh oil nicely and make a nice predictable move off the dry area.

What I enjoyed the most about this ball is the predictability of the cover. It produced a nice steady hook to the pocket.  I was getting 4-6 inches of flair and bouncing the ball off the dry all night.

The Disturbed is a great ball for the league bowler and is my new benchmark ball.  This ball will make a nice addition to anyone’s arsenal.

Mike Johnston   
Roto Grip Staff


Dislikes: Nothing


PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: rotogrip_rick on January 09, 2013, 07:08:00 AM
Disturbed #1: Layout 55 x3 3/8 x 45 box condition
Tested on: 40ft HPL house condition, ½ HPL and ½ wood 41ft house condition, and SPL with a 44ft house pattern, Paris and Mexico patterns.
Well, simply: this ball HOOKS and HOOKS a lot. Move a total of 5 boards right and 3 to 4 boards left out at my target compared to a Berserk with a similar layout. I did much better when the lane condition got tracked down the lane a little bit. Worked really well on SPL all practice long. The ball was too strong for the ½ and ½ lanes. On fresh SPL and slightly used up THS and Paris and Mexico patterns this ball was the best I have tested so far.
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: rotogrip_rick on January 09, 2013, 07:09:08 AM
Disturbed #2: Layout: 60 x4 ½ x50 2000Ab and Polished
Tested on: 40ft HPL house condition, ½ HPL and ½ wood 41ft house condition, and SPL with a 44ft house pattern, Paris and Mexico patterns.
The ball did better than I thought it would be. Found this ball with this layout allowed me to play left of center with my feet and play straighter up the boards on all conditions except on the ½ and ½ lanes. I could square up and go straighter up the lane. I really did not expect that from this ball since the box condition on HOOKED A TON!!! I was quite surprise by the how well the cover took the polish and how it totally changed the way the ball looked down lane. This will be my benchmark ball for any medium length and longer length oil patterns like Paris, Mexico and etc…
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: StoRoto2013 on January 15, 2013, 08:21:45 AM
LANE CONDITION

Length:Masters Pattern and 36

Volume:medium

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):Sport pattern and THS


The Roto Grip Disturbed is a lot of bang for your buck. The disturbed hooked more than I expected but I was not disappointed. The backend motion is continuous and strong. I am a tweener with a rev rate around 300 and my axis point is 5 5/8 over and ¾ up with a little axis tilt. I am more of up the back release guy that likes to play right but can and will move left. The layout that I used was pin under the fingers with the cg kicked out with an extra hole at 45 degrees from the center grip to the VAL. The surface was modified to 3000 grit with polish to get through the fronts a little easier. The out of box surface was just too much too early for me. The disturbed for me is a heavier rolling ball than the Berserk and had more backend reaction at the breakpoint.
I started with the Disturbed on the 2012 Master’s pattern playing around 5 at the arrows and keeping it tight to the pocket. The disturbed was strong enough to get through conditioner and was very readable on the backend. With most of the field playing to the left of me I moved in and the Disturbed was too much too early…. The ball that I switched too was the Roto Grip Shatter than to the Rising Star. Once I made match play and the pattern was reapplied I was back in business with the disturbed! Playing out and enough conditioner in the heads the Disturbed went into beast mode! When there is medium to heavy concentration of conditioner on the lane the Disturbed is a beast even with polish on it!
I also practiced on a typical house pattern with the disturbed and was pleasantly surprised by how it handled the extreme wet dry. The Disturbed did roll early but continued through the pocket like it meant business! I usually have a hard time with Typical House Patterns until they carry down a little but using the disturbed it blended that over/under out! I had room left and surprised by how much room I had to the right also!
Overall opinion of the Disturbed is good. For me the Disturbed really read the mid lane and was readable at the break point. For the Disturbed to be successful it needs medium to heavy oil and for the pattern to be on the long side.


Likes:Heavy Rolling in the oil and strong on the backend.

Dislikes:Needs oil


Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: TamerBowling on January 20, 2013, 09:36:19 AM
LANE CONDITION

THS: 42 ft modified Stone Street
Sport: 40 ft WTBA Athens


COMMENTS

We tested this ball with Stroker, Tweener, Power Tweener, and Cranker.

Roto Grip Disturbed, what do we have? Well we have a very predictable smooth ball motion. A benchmark ball that’s consistent is a great thing to have in the bag. The remarkable characteristic of this ball is that it is extremely predictable with moves. Move 1 and 1, and the ball does exactly what you want it to do, no surprises. It doesn’t react extremely fast to dry boards which gives it that consistency. You will not want to leak this one too far out or it will likely not recover. However, stay close and you will be rewarded with a consistent and continuous ball reaction. I can’t wait to see this core in a pearl and hybrid version.


PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS

For complete review with Digitrax and video, go to:

http://tamerbowling.com/index.php/roto-grip-disturbed-bowling-ball-review-digitrax/
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: Str8drvr on January 22, 2013, 07:21:29 PM
BALL SPECS

Pin Length:3 - 4

Starting Top Weight:3

Ball Weight:14lb


DRILL PATTERN

Pin to PAP:5 over 3/4 up

CG to PAP:

X Hole (if there is one):


BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate:

Ball Speed:15.3 - 15.5

PAP/Track:high track


SURFACE PREP

Grit:OOB

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):


LANE CONDITION

Length:39 - 42 ft

Volume:medium

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):THS


BALL REACTION

Length:Normal

Back End:Smooth

Overall Hook: 8 of 10

Midlane Read: 10 of 10

Breakpoint Shape:smooth arcing


COMMENTS

Likes:Hits like a truck. Most predictable arcing ball I've ever owned

Dislikes: Only bowled 6 games with it so no dislikes so far


PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: John Brodersen on January 29, 2013, 01:48:49 PM
Ball specs – 15 lbs 3 oz, 2.91 top weight, and 3.5 -inch pin.

Using the dual angle method, the Disturbed was drilled with a 4 3/4 inch pin distance, 70 degree drill angle and a 40 degree VAL angle. Using Storm’s drilling methodology the layout is 4 3/4  X  5 3/8  X 2 3/4  pin buffer.  An X-hole was not needed.  The surface was initially left OOB which is 2000 abralon.

I was looking forward to seeing what the new Middle Roll 70 motor in the Disturbed would do.  The first outing was on a fresh 38 foot, 22 micro-liter fairly flat pattern.  I’m slightly rev dominant due to softer ball speed.  On this pattern the Disturbed started up too soon and I could not get it to the spot.  The Disturbed was just too strong for this condition.  Before the next outing I applied a little Storm Reacta Shine to the cover.  League night was on a 41 foot, 24 micro-liter house shot.  The added polish and longer pattern length helped as the Disturbed was cleaner through the fronts and had a ton of energy left for the backend.  I played this pattern about 5 and 3 deeper with the Disturbed than with a Nomad solid.  I would describe the motion of the Disturbed as a strong arc.  The next outing was on the USBC White # 2 pattern.  This played similar to the prior described pattern; I just played a little further to the right.  Again the Disturbed displayed a strong arc motion with tremendous hit and carry.

With the OOB cover the Disturbed is a large hooking ball that will need heavy to medium/heavy conditions for most tweeners.  The motion is strong but predictable (great mid-lane read) with tremendous hit and carry.  The cover also adjusts well to polish.  This new HP3 release from Roto Grip has a lot to like if your looking for a hooking piece.


John Brodersen
RG amateur staff
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: Metal_rules on February 02, 2013, 09:54:54 AM
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COMMENTS

Likes:I had to get a second Disturbed because my original one had a crack around the middle finger. I was ok with that because I had the replacement ball drilled pin down, and I really like this reaction. It matches up even better with my higher ball speed. It has a nice strong arch that starts up in the midlane and continues through the pindeck. I did shine it up so I get some length, but the energy is saved for the back end. I absolutely love this ball and its hitting power. This is the best solid I have ever had! Roto Grip nailed this one!

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Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: jeff_mersch on February 24, 2013, 08:43:56 PM
Layout is pin stacked above the ring finger no weight hole, which is my favorite layout.
 
I am a left handed tweener with a rev rate of 325.

The disturbed has my favorite combination of core/coverstock: solid cover with a symmetrical core.  Even with the box surface, the ball still clears the front and saves a lot of energy for the backend. You can use this ball at a high grit surface with ease. This is a great ball for fresh patterns. I have recently used this on the USBC masters pattern and it gave me a great look.
 
Another must have from Roto Grip.

Jeff Mersch
Roto Grip Amateur Staff
PBA Member
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: dmi2007 on March 14, 2013, 10:49:45 AM
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Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: yellowdog07 on March 15, 2013, 11:23:39 AM
Pin Length:  4’”
Weight:  15 lbs
Drilling: 4 x 3 3/4 x 2
Length:  40 ft
Volume:  Medium
Type: THS

I tested this ball on our THS and it worked best with the surface at 4000 grit polished.
I used box finish (2000 grit) for Kegel middle of the road navigation pattern.

Likes:  I like the predictability of this ball.  It rolls nicely through the heads, while making a strong, yet even, turn to the pocket. With the 4000 grit polished surface, it did not overreact coming off the house pattern.  As the house pattern dried up, I was able to move in and still carry the corners. This ball continues right through the pin deck, taking out everything in its path.
On the Kegel nav. pattern, with the box finish, it still gave me a nice even rolling look, and again, came off the pattern very smooth and made a nice, strong turn to the pocket.   A must have for any arsenal in today's game!

Carol Teel
Roto Grip Amateur Staff Member
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: StormSteve on March 16, 2013, 09:32:01 PM
Disturbed
PAP - 4 3/16 over 1/4 up
Ball Speed 17-18 mph
Rev Rate 300-350
Right Handed
Layout 40 x 4.5 x 45
Surface Preparation: OOB

What I was looking for: I was looking for something mainly for medium to medium heavy oil sport shots to be controlled and overall pretty strong.

What I got: First thing I have to say is this ball rolls HEAVY. Even even with this more skid-flip type layout for me this ball has a very controlled continuous arcing motion.  It picks up pretty early and rolls strong and doesn’t quit.

This ball requires a lot of head oil with OOB surface. It was a little strong for me on house conditions unless I wanted to play really deep. I hit it with a used 4000 pad to shine it up a little and it got through the heads much cleaner and had a much better look.

When I go to tournaments I take it back to the OOB surface. It does very well at controlling the pocket and having a very strong smooth motion.

If you are looking for a ball to be very strong and controllable look no further. This ball is great on a lot of conditions with a little surface work,

The pins don’t sleep well, they might even be a little DISTURBED!

Steven Fagan
Storm Pro Shop Staff
Lexington, KY
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: Bigmike on March 21, 2013, 11:26:01 AM
Lay Out: 4 3/4" from PAP at 75* PAP angle and 30* VAL angle. Dual angle measurement would be 75/4.75/30. I have no weight hole.

Ball Surface: I started box finish which is 360/500/2000 abralon.

Lane Condition Observations: I have thrown this on a couple of different patterns: Our league pattern which is around a 38' shot and I also threw this on our state tournament shot that was a 40' modified house condition. On our league pattern, the OOB finish was originally very early at the breakpoint. I had to get more toward the slicker part of the lane or the ball would jump too hard on the back ends.  On the modified 40' house pattern, this ball was good early when the was more head oil and the shot was still fresh. The Disturbed rolled up very strong on the back end and even gave me slight area to the right of target once they opened up some more. If you are going to throw this on less oil, you might need to smooth/shine the surface up enough to get the dullness off it.

Other Ball Comparisons: I did get to throw it some side by side with my Defiant Soul, Defiant Edge, and Sync. The Soul is just slightly longer to the spot. The Soul compared to the Disturbed was a different look as the Soul tended to get slightly longer and finish sharper on the backend of the lane while the Disturbed was much earlier reading and smoother at the spot. The Edge was an entirely different look as it went down the lane much easier and was better when the lanes started to open up. I would recommend "balling down" to the Defiant Edge when your Disturbed starts to bounce off the pins or is reading too early. You could also "stage" your reactions by laying out a Soul to go slightly longer and even hit it with a lite shine. Put a Defiant Edge with the same layout and more shine and you can have a 3 ball progression. The Sync is a little longer and a lot more ball off the spot. The Sync is very reminiscent of the original Virtual Gravity in that it just keeps coming on the back. If you have a Sync and want to add a Disturbed, it might be a good idea to do something a lot slower off the spot so you can play out with the Disturbed and not waste a ball in your arsenal. There is always a spot for an early and even rolling solid in any tournament arsenal.
 
Final Thoughts: I see a great ball to have in your bag especially on longer sport conditions where there are usually much less defined dry areas on the lane and you need to stay in the oil more. The Disturbed can be surface tweaked to use if their is less head oil on the lane. I have seen it used it on flatter patterns and this ball has a lot of utility on longer patterns . Surface is definitely the key on this one also as factory surface can make this one very early at the breakpoint.
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: KENOMAN on March 22, 2013, 02:54:40 PM
BALL SPECS

Pin Length:4"

Starting Top Weight:2

Ball Weight:14lb 3oz

DRILL PATTERN

Pin to PAP:4"

CG to PAP:3"

X Hole (if there is one):4 1/2 "


BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate:320 RPM

Ball Speed:14.9

PAP/Track:5 1/2 1/2 down


SURFACE PREP

Grit:2000

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):Matte


LANE CONDITION

Length:39"

Volume:medium

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):THS


BALL REACTION

Length:11?20

Back End:15/20

Overall Hook:75/100

Midlane Read:75/100

Breakpoint Shape:Strong Arc


COMMENTS

Likes:First ball out the bag on the fresh oil. Great for medium to medium heavy oil. Good early roll, nice midlane, continuous backend. Also recovers nicely with good carry, keeps pins low. Green and Black surface lets you read the roll easily.

Dislikes: Like all strong balls, best on fresh heads. However you may be able to step 4-5 boards deeper and keep striking because this ball will turn the corner.


PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: StormN3rik on March 31, 2013, 09:33:44 AM
I drilled my new Disturbed 55x4 1/8x50,  it is very clean through the front part of the lane and heavy rolling through the mid lane.  I left surface at factory, and it definitely reminded me of a much stronger version of an outlaw.  Rolled fantastic on scorpion, viper, and typical houe condition.  This is definitely one of the better solid symetric balls I have thrown in a while.

Erik Ramos
Storm/Roto Staffer
Title: Disturbed Review
Post by: cmsubowler on March 31, 2013, 08:07:59 PM
Hello all and thanks for reading.  As always you can find our video that goes along with this review here : http://www.youtube.com/user/CompetitiveEdgeBowl

Disturbed....  what to say... um Incredible.  This is the most talked about ball at the Storm and Rotogrip matchmaker.  One of the most versatile bowling balls to come out in the Roto line.  Incredibly predictable ball motion, strong rolling and the perfect mixture of angularity and arc.  This new core design is a definite hit with all players of all skill levels.  Anyone looking for benchmark ball this is certainly the hit.  I drilled this ball with a 65 x 5 x 50 layout and it just does not quit.  Put a little polish on it and it does down the lane with ease but keep the box surface and it can handle even the heaviest of conditions.  This is a great all around ball and shall remain a hit for a long time.  Can't wait to see this core make its second mark in the Roto Line......
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: CKO on April 03, 2013, 08:16:47 PM
Disturbed

One of Roto Grips strongest symmetricals yet.  This is a good starting point on fresh lanes.  This ball will read the mids better than any I’ve seen.  Cover is versatile to give you some different options depending on the volume of oil.  I will likely start with this one out of the bag at nationals. 

Kelly O’Driscoll
Roto Grip Staff
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: nibrocmc on April 07, 2013, 01:53:48 PM
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COMMENTS

Not only is this probably the most versatile ball I have ever thrown, I watched a fellow league member throw 35 out of 36 strikes with it. If you want to play the dry part of the lane, just shine it up. If you want to play the middle part of the lane, just leave it out of the box. I have 2 of these balls drilled - one for oiler conditions, and one drilled for skid flip. This ball is able to read the front part of the lane perfectly, and really jumps off the dry. This is a great tournament ball, in that is allows you to be aggressive on tough lanes.

PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: wldthng047 on April 10, 2013, 04:21:14 PM
LANE CONDITION

Length:40'

Volume:Medium

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS OLD WOOD LANES


COMMENTS

Likes: Smooth and easy through the heads, with a predictable read in the midlane.  Response to friction is strong and continuous without being crazy.  I was able to play near the friction on the fresh, and just keep moving left chasing the head oil to get the push needed to reach the break point. 

Dislikes: It does need some headoil.  Once the heads go, its either move in and wheel, or back in the bag and shell down.


PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: im4pats54 on May 04, 2013, 11:27:14 AM
LANE CONDITION

Length: 41

Volume: Medium

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


COMMENTS

Layout 60x5x40, used on standard house shot. I found the ball to get clean through the fronts but more forward off the spot and did not go sideways. This ball reaction was easy to make moves with. As the oil carried down, I was able to move left and go a little straighter with same backend motion. I did find that the ball better served me later in the set. It did not carry as well earlier, maybe using too much energy early. Works very well for the player looking to go straighter and not see so much skid/ flip.   LOVE the name!!!

PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: Ernie Mccraken on June 27, 2013, 12:11:43 PM
Type of bowler: Tweener
Avg Speed: 17.5
Rev Rate: 375-400
PAP: 5 x ¾ up
Layout: 45 x 4 ¼ x 65

Drilled the Roto Grip Disturbed to be at the top of my lineup and a ball that will work for heavier oil and give me good continuation. After bowling on three different patterns the ball does that and more.

Drilled it with a large VAL and a fairly aggressive drill angle and pin distance to ensure the ball was strong. The ball rolls early, which is what I want, but it’s the continuation and predictability that I love.

1st pattern: Cheetah
The first game out of the box I threw with this ball was on the Cheetah. This version had a bit of hang on the outside but was close. Understanding this was probably too much ball, I threw it anyway. I was able to move in and play a pretty wide angle. The good news is that when the ball read off the 35-foot’ish pattern it was predictable and that allowed it to stay in my hands. Once I moved in and started increasing the angles the ball became a monster and allowed me to play a part of the lane no one else around me could.

2nd pattern: Modified house shot
Threw this ball on a Sunday morning where they ran the heads over the leftovers. Was able to move in and use this ball to very good success. The ball showed the same characteristics as it did on the cheetah. Very aggressive move, but nothing uncontrollable. Despite the carry down, the ball still finished very well, a welcomed sight.

3rd pattern: Viper
Pattern was a fairly touchy early in the set. The pattern played much crisper on the backends than the Cheetah but stuck with the Disturbed to see how it’d do. Once I was able to blend the pattern out the reaction on the Cheetah was confirmed. Strong, continuous move with no overreaction. The only time it was touchy was on the fresh, but I think the surface helped blend the pattern out.

Overall, it’s a fantastic ball for my view and the money. It is the best rolling ball I’ve thrown since I had the original solid Cell and the Hammer Vicious Strike. The aggression with a controlled, strong finish is a trait EVERY bowler needs in their toolbox. Would recommend this ball to every type of bowler.

Darrell Lovell
www,BowlerX.com (http://www.BowlerX.com) staffer
Title: Re: Disturbed
Post by: StormNation4Life on August 16, 2013, 04:10:24 PM
Type of bowler: Tweener
Avg. Speed: 16.5 mph
Rev Rate: 325-350
PAP: 5" over 1 1/2" up
Axis Tilt: High
Axis Rotation: 45°

LANE CONDITION

Bowler CharacterLength: 44 Ft

Volume: Medium-Heavy

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS

COMMENTS:

Likes: This ball is a beast. I've thrown 5 games with this ball, but I LOVE IT. It hooks like a monster, but hits like a tank. I've already been close to throwing a 700 series with this and threw my first 10-strike game with a 256. Everywhere I'd throw the ball, the ball would know how much it should hook and destroy the pins. I'm not completely used to this ball, but when I do, I hope to throw many great series, and possibly my first 300!

Dislikes: I've only thrown 5 games, so I have no dislikes yet, and I hope I won't have any :)

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