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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: lilpossum1 on February 12, 2017, 03:05:56 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOmffx9lsUs
I have always loved Luke Rosdahl's reviews. He gives his honest opinions on a ball and compares different balls. Anyway, I have been critical of how the ball will be different from the hyroad. He, apparently, felt the same as I did and gives his comparison. check it out
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It's refreshing to see a reviewer be honest about a balls pro's/cons, regardless on conditions, or a bowlers's style (speed/revs).
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video keeps erroring out....ugh
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His are on point. I have been a subscriber since he started doing reviews for storm.
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Refreshing review since most if not all reviews focus on a ball's pros and not it's cons. Well done!
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Did anyone see Diandra Asbatys review? This ball looks like overpriced, overhyped dog shit in a lot of hands. For the record, I'm a storm mark.
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I threw it at a demo days really wanting to like it, but didn't. I was mostly throwing it on Chameleon after the 3 games of league. If I got enough angle through the front part of the lane, it didn't recover. If I squared up just a little, it broke loose way too early. The opposite was true of the No Rules Pearl. I could get plenty deep and even with my moderate rev rate, it would always respond down lane.
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I'm also not impressed with it seeing it in person, as such the ball is truly created for the 2 handers/high Rev guys; on top of that, it's high priced, at the high performance level, when at most, (just my opinion) it's a benchmark/ slightly med/heavy condition (depending on surface), nothing more. I'll stay with what's proven, the famous Hyroad.
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I threw it at a demo days really wanting to like it, but didn't. I was mostly throwing it on Chameleon after the 3 games of league. If I got enough angle through the front part of the lane, it didn't recover. If I squared up just a little, it broke loose way too early. The opposite was true of the No Rules Pearl. I could get plenty deep and even with my moderate rev rate, it would always respond down lane.
Sounds like we've got another phaze on our hands.
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Im sick of Storm's hype, with mostly no substance to it, so glad there's different options on the market. The companies that go under the radar are the companies that produce good equipment, while being fair priced as well.
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Considering he said the ball didn't match up well for him, it actually looked pretty good in that video. This Timeless may be one of the most over-hyped balls in recent memory. Another case of a ball manufacturer's marketing department working overtime. Almost every review goes out of its way to stress that "just because it has Belmo's name on it, and was designed with his input, doesn't mean it is only for 2 handers!". Diandra's video review on IAB was pure marketing ("if you bowl, or have ever even thought about bowling, you should buy this ball!" Come on now, that is just silly.) Storm is simply pushing this ball too hard.
We have been able to see this ball in the hands of the pros on a couple of telecasts now. Norm Duke threw it in the Super Clash and had some issues with corners. On the telecast today, it wasn't a slam dunk for anyone either. Sure, Belmo had success with it but never really got the ball to square up in to the pocket. Larsen struggled with it. Simonsen made a comment in his interview that the Timeless was just going too long for him.
Of the new Storm balls, the Sure Lock and Torrent seem like they have great potential for more styles of bowlers. The Timeless is simply too gimmicky.
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With that said people will be busting their wallets open on Tuesday.
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Maybe they need to change the RG and diff to make it a better ball.
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I'm just glad there aren't shirtless guys throwing it on peanut butter this time around.
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My PSO told me that the Timeless is sold out(15LBS) and that storm has a massive back order. Thats not including the 14LBS. ball which I throw and he can't get. So the overhype worked.
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Also, besides Belmo, I didn't really see alot of people throwing it during qualifying over the weekend. Saw a lot of that No Rules Pearl tho... ;)
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Also, besides Belmo, I didn't really see alot of people throwing it during qualifying over the weekend. Saw a lot of that No Rules Pearl tho... ;)
I actually saw a decent number of people throwing it later in the blocks. If PDW would have switched to it earlier in his last game, he would have made the show.
The NRP was everywhere though!
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Thanks for the post possum, and thanks for the positive comments guys. No, I really don't like the Timeless that much. Northface pretty well hits it spot on. This ball is going to look great for Belmo, but not a whole lot of other people, and I kind of feel like that's the way it's going to happen with the Signature line. The hype is a result of piggybacking the success of the Hyroad plus Belmo plus the huge surge of two handed bowlers. Despite all the similarities, like I said in the video, the Timeless shares absolutely zero in common with the Hyroad in terms of reaction. It's a ball designed specifically to get deep with and fling right with a 500+ rev rate. As such, it's gotta be quick off friction, but still slow through the pocket, which isn't a great reaction for a majority of bowlers. I think they're kind of shooting themselves in the foot with the hype though . . I wish they'd market the stuff a little more reasonably or appropriately, but that's what I hope to do with my videos. I appreciate everyone who watches, and I just want to make good videos that people want to watch. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd definitely love to hear them.
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To much hype for a ball that may not work for everyone!
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To much hype for a ball that may not work for everyone!
I get that there is a lot of hype, but honestly what ball will work for everyone?
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I was going to say the samething
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To much hype for a ball that may not work for everyone!
I get that there is a lot of hype, but honestly what ball will work for everyone?
Not many, but this one is unique. I would not recommend it for everyone.
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I think if this ball was called the HY ROAD it would have the greatest reviews.
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I think if this ball was called the HY ROAD it would have the greatest reviews.
The only important thing that should matter to a bowler is IF the ball works for them. It doesn't matter how well it works for others, especially reviewers, it matters how the ball matches up to you and the conditions you bowl on. In the end, how long the ball continues to be popular in sales will show how many it matches up to, but if you are not one of them, then what does it matter? If a ball is a lemon to 95% of the bowlers but it is magic in your hands, then you better stock up on it while it is available because it won't be for long.
And the name of the ball doesn't matter to most of the bowlers on this site. It could be called the Dung Pile, but if it works well for us, we will continue to buy it.
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I should add one more thing.
I did own a Hy Road and it did not work well for me. It did for the guy I gave it to and it worked well for the other bowlers that I recommended it to. It also worked well for others that I saw using it, just not for me. That does not make it a bad ball, just not a good match for me. I did try different surface adjustments but rather than re-drill it, I knew someone who had close to my span that I gave it to so he only had to slug the thumb and that layout worked for him.
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Lol yeah give a ball away cause it didn't work for you... I did that before, and those ppl ended up shooting personal bests with these balls I gave away or sold...
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Did anyone see Diandra Asbatys review? This ball looks like overpriced, overhyped dog shit in a lot of hands. For the record, I'm a storm mark.
Yes! Just watched her review of this ball. All I could say was, "Nice lipstick!" The ball, even in the 360* visual looked like a dud! Nothing that a one-hander has any reason to be trying to throw! Just my opinion, but I will be staying far away from this piece.
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I consider myself very much a "stroker" in bowling style and I have no doubt, without spending about $200 to find out for sure, that the Timeless is not a fit for me. For bowling with high rev rates and 18 or higher MPH ball speed, it could be a great ball. Right now I am using the Alpha Crux, No Rules Pearl, Crux Pearl, and Pitch Blue in that order by lane condition from oily to dry, and I don't see anything among the other recent releases to justify replacing one of them with the Timeless, the Torrent, or the Code Black.
I will, however, be interested in seeing how the Sure Lock compares with the Alpha Crux. Being left-handed, I"ve had some great practice games on the right lane using the Snap Lock, where I can easily move my feet 4-5 boards over to compensate for the stronger hook of the ball. But on the left lane, trying to migrate over to the right in my approach (mirror opposite of what Pete Weber does on the right lane) is a bit of a challenge for someone whose skill level is orders of magnitude below that of PDW.
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I like the videos that Luke does. With that being said, the Timeless is slowly growing on me. Now I will say that the Hy-Road was a ball that over/undered me to sheer frustration. I couldn't square up with it because it wouldn't lay off enough, I couldn't open up my angles because if I missed it slightly at the bottom it would sail right by the break point even on over-walled house conditions.
Enter the Timeless. My first thoughts were here we go again, another Hy-Road in my hands. I was seriously considering giving it away after the first 2 times out. My PSO was sticking around while I threw it some side by side with the No Rules Pearl that I also drilled. The Timeless was slightly earlier and sometimes looked like it got kicked sideways down lane compared to the No Rules Pearl if my ball speed was too slow. He suggested that I hit the ball lightly with a 3000 pad and to make sure that I also touched the back flares of the ball a couple of times. Whole different ball game and more readable reaction arsenal wise.
I waited and got it on a house sweeper at a place that is notorious for "cliffing" them with the standard 10-10 block which is hit 11 and it's a massive washout or swishing 7-10 or hit 9 and watch it go thru the face. I started with the No Rules Pearl and got off to a great start with a small 500 series thru the first 2. The NRP was blending them out enough to even give me some hold area slightly left of target. The first 2 shots of the last game were 4 pin, then adjust the next time for a half ten. Switch to the Timeless, move 2-1 left and bang out 9 of the last 10 for a 258.
I would suggest that if you are a med speed/med rev guy like me to get out the abralon if you get a Timeless and touch that shell enough to wear the polish off. A lot of people myself included almost always hit Utah factory shined balls with abralon whether it is 4000 or sometimes 2000 to get that shine off. I do this mainly because I have a hard time getting close to replicating the factory shine but for me it takes the over/under out of play on league shots especially over-walled ones.
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So wait, 1500 polished is the devil???
#iknewit
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There needs to be a like button on here like Facebook. LOL
I almost always have to take the surface down some or lightly scratch off the reacta shine finish. I will try the ball out first to see if it is really squirty or not. The No Rule Pearl I just barely touched it with the 3000 then a brand new 4000 pad. It lanes shines pretty quickly so I don't even see the scratch marks.
The last Utah ball that I never touched the surface on was a HyWire that I drilled last spring. That ball is the nutz at my normal house during league.
So wait, 1500 polished is the devil???
#iknewit
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Well if you look at the majority of the reviews, they're glowing. The sad thing for me is that marketing like this has an actual effect on people. You should buy a ball because it's a good choice for you, not because the marketing was good or it has Belmo's logo on the side. Don't care about the name on the ball and don't care about hype, if I did, I shouldn't be doing reviews.
I think if this ball was called the HY ROAD it would have the greatest reviews.
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I tried timeless after drilling on a typical house pattern. So far so good. I'm a left handed stroker but was able to go way inside. Deeper than I'm normally used to. I have low to mid rev and speed. My last three shots was at 17 down 8. It's my first Storm bowling ball. Will try it on league this Friday. Hopefully with success. :)