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Equipment Boards => Roto Grip => Topic started by: ITZPS on March 09, 2017, 12:18:10 PM
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Once again, as always, thanks for watching. Daredevil Trick is very smooth, it's like the ultimate sport ball for medium to heavier volume/length patterns. If you like the IQ Tour Solid but want something that rolls heavier or hooks a bit more, this is the ball. Extremely versatile ball, I feel like it's kind of a can't miss choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC0XuN51uIg
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Great video and commentary. I have a question, how does the DDT compare to the IQ Nano?
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Great video and I noticed the same thing with its versatility. I've had it for about a week now and thrown it on 4 different lane conditions and have yet to be like "man I can't use this ball today".
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It's a bit earlier and smoother, probably a couple boards stronger overall. Theoretically it's pretty close, but the biggest thing for me is always shape. Very similar hook potentials, pretty different shapes for me. Nano feels more like a weaker Alpha Crux, Trick feels more like a weaker Menace.
Great video and commentary. I have a question, how does the DDT compare to the IQ Nano?
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Stronger RocketShip or not as flippy?
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Would u slot this in-between the !Q tour solid and marvel-S? How does it compare to those two and the OG marvel solid?
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More like stronger IQ Tour Solid, and no, it's not as flippy as the Rocket Ship. You could even say stronger Torrent . . but the shapes are different for me, the Torrent still has a pretty "clean" look where the Trick is very muddy and very smooth.
Stronger RocketShip or not as flippy?
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Yes actually, not as much ball as the Marvel-S, but a few more boards and a few feet earlier than the IQTS. It's just a stronger IQTS, shape for me is very similar. Similar to OG Marvel Solid, but again, just a few boards weaker. The low RG makes it very rolly, but the medium-ish differential doesn't quite allow it to make that big turn on the backend, so again, it's very reminiscent of the IQ Tour line. Early revving, lots of control, and just the right amount of turn on the backend. This ball will win an event at the OC this year, I'd bet money on it, it's just the perfect kind of ball for that tournament.
Would u slot this in-between the !Q tour solid and marvel-S? How does it compare to those two and the OG marvel solid?
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Sounds like the Phaze II would be stronger overall, but which has more motion down lane in your opinion??
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Theoretically the Phaze 2 is stronger, but really just stronger on the backend. It feels like the cover on the Trick is stronger, but the Phaze 2 covers more boards on the backend with the differential being higher. They actually put me in the same area of the lane, Phaze 2 is just longer and stronger and Trick is earlier and smoother. I'd put total hook nearly identical between the two.
Sounds like the Phaze II would be stronger overall, but which has more motion down lane in your opinion??
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Theoretically the Phaze 2 is stronger, but really just stronger on the backend. It feels like the cover on the Trick is stronger, but the Phaze 2 covers more boards on the backend with the differential being higher. They actually put me in the same area of the lane, Phaze 2 is just longer and stronger and Trick is earlier and smoother. I'd put total hook nearly identical between the two.
Sounds like the Phaze II would be stronger overall, but which has more motion down lane in your opinion??
A buddy of mine I feel is very reputable. Bowled college, coaches high school. He told me that he likes the Dare Devil Trick. Reason being because he can keep moving left and maintain carry, where as the Phaze II will start to crap out some. Sound accurate?
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ITZPS, the difference provided by potential is an excellent point, and very appreciated. Thanks.
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After seeing it in person, the ball is gorgeous with the gold lettering. Using that as the tie breaker between getting it or the Phaze II haha.
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I might end up with both, ya never know... :) But I'm sure they'll be a few weeks apart....
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Yes that's entirely accurate. Once the Phaze 2 gets a little lane shine on it, it gets really squirty. Every once and a while a Storm ball will do this and I don't know why. Torrent gets some shine on it, great ball. Rocket Ship gets a little shine on it, gets squirty. IQ Tour Solid with some shine, great ball. Sure Lock with some shine on it, best ball ever. Trick with some shine on it maintains reaction better than Phaze 2 most definitely.
Theoretically the Phaze 2 is stronger, but really just stronger on the backend. It feels like the cover on the Trick is stronger, but the Phaze 2 covers more boards on the backend with the differential being higher. They actually put me in the same area of the lane, Phaze 2 is just longer and stronger and Trick is earlier and smoother. I'd put total hook nearly identical between the two.
Sounds like the Phaze II would be stronger overall, but which has more motion down lane in your opinion??
A buddy of mine I feel is very reputable. Bowled college, coaches high school. He told me that he likes the Dare Devil Trick. Reason being because he can keep moving left and maintain carry, where as the Phaze II will start to crap out some. Sound accurate?
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The feedback is making this a tough decision..... But that's what it's all about. I admit I hate a ball that gets squirty with shine, but just not sure the DDT will bend when I need... I maintain the equipment well though, so maybe not a big deal.
Hmmm....
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#surelock lol. Phaze 2 really takes a lot of cover maintenance, but yeah, Trick is pretty smooth. When I don't strike with the Trick, 90% of the time it's because it didn't quite make it back up the hill. Now keep in mind that that's what happens to me 75% of the time anyway, I leave WAY more 10 pins than 4 pins.
The feedback is making this a tough decision..... But that's what it's all about. I admit I hate a ball that gets squirty with shine, but just not sure the DDT will bend when I need... I maintain the equipment well though, so maybe not a big deal.
Hmmm....
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I've looked at all 3 videos again.... If I look @ what's missing in my game, it's clearly lack of punch in the back end. So, I'm hearing DDT is smooth (i've got that already x 4)... Phaze II has some punch but high maintenance, and Sure Lock is made for a low rev player like myself, handles shine well, but it's asym, which has disappointed me every time in life EXCEPT for a recently acquired Vandal, where I may have found a drill I actually like on asym. I shouldn't even mention NRP, which I assume is a stronger Vandal...
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there's always a good beer ;D
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Trying that right now. Will let you know in an hour or two if it helps, but I doubt it'll hurt.
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I've looked at all 3 videos again.... If I look @ what's missing in my game, it's clearly lack of punch in the back end. So, I'm hearing DDT is smooth (i've got that already x 4)... Phaze II has some punch but high maintenance, and Sure Lock is made for a low rev player like myself, handles shine well, but it's asym, which has disappointed me every time in life EXCEPT for a recently acquired Vandal, where I may have found a drill I actually like on asym. I shouldn't even mention NRP, which I assume is a stronger Vandal...
You think a ball is going to fix the fact you can't create angle down lane?
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You think a ball is going to fix the fact you can't create angle down lane?
well, yeah.. I'm 500 rpm and wanna play the twig on house. My plastic is too angular. Any suggestions?
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Hi guys. Slow day bugging others I guess. Come on in, it's all good. You're welcome here.
To answer the question though... No, it won't fix the lack of angle, but I've been really interested in the difference the Vandal has made compared to what I was using before, and hoping to learn a little more diversity in my game, so yes, I appreciate all the feedback I can get.
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I'm loving the original Daredevil. When the NRP starts leaving flat 10s, I can switch to this ball and most of the time it is the answer. I can get a little more left with my feet and swing it a little more. I love the way it rolls. Just put in my order for the Trick last night. Should be here by the end of the week. I'm thinking this will be an even better 1-2 combo than what I've been using so far - at least the way our house shot has been playing lately.
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When I say pics of the Daredevil Trick's core, it immediately stood out that it looked like Storm's old Turbine Core. The numbers on the Trick match up exactly to the specs of the 14lb Turbine Core. That may make me grab one of these; I've always liked that core!
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When I say pics of the Daredevil Trick's core, it immediately stood out that it looked like Storm's old Turbine Core. The numbers on the Trick match up exactly to the specs of the 14lb Turbine Core. That may make me grab one of these; I've always liked that core!
Just noticed that. Never had a chance to try that line. The 15 minute video Schlem and Stu put out has convinced me to get one.
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When I say pics of the Daredevil Trick's core, it immediately stood out that it looked like Storm's old Turbine Core. The numbers on the Trick match up exactly to the specs of the 14lb Turbine Core. That may make me grab one of these; I've always liked that core!
Just noticed that. Never had a chance to try that line. The 15 minute video Schlem and Stu put out has convinced me to get one.
Donald Trump couldve put a alternative facts video out about it and you were going to get it.
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I'm loving the original Daredevil. When the NRP starts leaving flat 10s, I can switch to this ball and most of the time it is the answer. I can get a little more left with my feet and swing it a little more. I love the way it rolls. Just put in my order for the Trick last night. Should be here by the end of the week. I'm thinking this will be an even better 1-2 combo than what I've been using so far - at least the way our house shot has been playing lately.
Wait you move left when you go from the no rules pearl to the dare devil?
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When I say pics of the Daredevil Trick's core, it immediately stood out that it looked like Storm's old Turbine Core. The numbers on the Trick match up exactly to the specs of the 14lb Turbine Core. That may make me grab one of these; I've always liked that core!
Just noticed that. Never had a chance to try that line. The 15 minute video Schlem and Stu put out has convinced me to get one.
Donald Trump couldve put a alternative facts video out about it and you were going to get it.
Probably
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Wait you move left when you go from the no rules pearl to the dare devil?
Correct. Due to the cores and the way I have them drilled, the Daredevil is better for opening up the lane for me (not that I get way left - still more up the outside).
I got my Trick last week and it is definitely a lot stronger for me than the NRP and DD. My pearl balls would usually hold on slightly tugged shots. Not this ball. For the 2 times I've used it, I've had to move about 5-7 boards left with my feet and 2-3 with my eyes right from the start over the NRP. Definitely need to watch the speed as well.