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Title: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: billdozer on March 19, 2017, 08:47:49 PM
Haven't seen a good one yet, fyi.

Very unpredictable motion. 

I have seen about 12 roll now.

On beat up wood, beat up old synthetics, and newer synthetics.

No one, absolutely no one, will admit it's not "that good."

I mean most of the proshops have charged top dollar for em, and many Preordered them, many got it just cause of belmo (except their short 500 revs)...Yet no one will say it sucks. 

Very weird. Most people will say yeah I hate it.

One poor guy went from the original batch phaze--his worn out VG nano hooks and carries circles around it btw-- to the timeless...I feel so bad!

Anywho...I threw one with my favorite layout very close to my span...All I can say is that it was so-so with my hyroad rolling much better.  Very marvel pearl like

Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: ITZPS on March 19, 2017, 08:55:24 PM
It's very hit and miss.  I've seen it look great for some people and awful for an equal amount.  Not much in between, it's either outstanding or terrible. 
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: leftybowler70 on March 19, 2017, 08:58:00 PM
I've noticed the same thing, I've seen 3/4 of them in several wood and synthetic lanes, and the ball is so squirty in oil (mind you these are rev dominant bowlers' to whom it's supposed to benefit these bowlers' .

It's just another bad to use when the pattern breaks down and you can chase it in (which there are a million options out there for far less money. Consumers have caught up to Storm's hype train and a good amount of bowlers' have jumped ship (Me being one of them).
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: billdozer on March 19, 2017, 08:59:36 PM
They mostly all tell me, "hands down, it's amazing" and then struggle to shoot 2 bills a game lol. 
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: leftybowler70 on March 19, 2017, 09:00:54 PM
Forgot I also threw a opponent's of mine and while I crushed the pocket each time, it really wasn't anything that my Forza gt, or my Rocket couldn't handle, (which their more aggressive down lane for me).

People will stop flocking to hype soon enough.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: storybook123 on March 19, 2017, 09:09:28 PM
I saw it roll really nicely for two people who bowl traditional one handed, then I saw a two handed bowler with a pin down and pin up and it was awful for him but he insisted he likes the ball.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: michael.willis9 on March 19, 2017, 09:26:38 PM
Keep in mind, I've never thrown a timeless(yet). But in reading about it, the impression I get is that it reminds me of blade irons. It takes a highly skilled player to use them, and even then the fit has to be perfect. I also think that a lot of people are having issues because they're getting it drilled with their "favorite setup."  I think this one is gonna be on storm and the pro shops to figure out a good layout for the ball. From there it's on the bowler to trust the different than normal layout
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: Bowler19525 on March 19, 2017, 09:34:47 PM
Bowler on my team has been using his Timeless now for 3 weeks.  It has been very unpredictable.  He sold his old ball the first night he got the Timeless so he has nothing to fall back to at this point (not sure whey he did that.)  The Timeless jumps a ton on the backend for him, but is difficult for him to control most of the time.  Lots of corner pins with his Timeless, that's for sure!

Has anyone tried a 500 grit abralon with royal/crown compound finish on a Timeless?  Such a finish might really give the Timeless a more consistent ball motion.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: billdozer on March 19, 2017, 09:58:43 PM
I'd definitely put a control or a strong layout for midlane on it. Skid flip ain't happening haha.

I'd punch it the same as my respect, my IQ fusion/solid, Optimus, hyroad. 
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: BigWillyStyle on March 19, 2017, 10:27:41 PM
My PSO seems to love his at the one house he bowls at...shooting good numbers every week...289 and 750ish on the series IIRC. At the house I bowl and work with him at however, it doesn't seem to roll great. But then again, I also use a different arsenal for our shared house than any other house in the area (old wood lanes from the 50's with synthetic overlay, and still the original wood approaches...it can be a beast!).

With that being said, I've seen 2 people throwing it at the other house I bowl at, and neither has impressed. But then again, I haven't thrown the ball, nor do I plan on getting one. I think for strong pearl I'm good with the Fire Quantum and Lucid...
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: DP3 on March 19, 2017, 10:41:31 PM
4/5 people I talk to with one talks about it here has some tall tale of some crazy number they shot off the press with it (completely unverified and always in practice) meanwhile they shoot 180 with 6 strikes on the THS with it.

For the few guys I've seen that know what they are doing, this seems like a ball you can count on for a 250+ game per set when they're easy.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: billdozer on March 20, 2017, 03:12:25 AM
4/5 people I talk to with one talks about it here has some tall tale of some crazy number they shot off the press with it (completely unverified and always in practice) meanwhile they shoot 180 with 6 strikes on the THS with it.

For the few guys I've seen that know what they are doing, this seems like a ball you can count on for a 250+ game per set when they're easy.

Yes! Hahaha this is what I'm seeing. Like it's the d@mn reincarnation of the IQ gold or the marvel pearl and it's not!
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: qstarweb on March 20, 2017, 03:53:54 AM
I tried someone else's Timeless in 13 lbs and it didn't work for me. Based on everything I have read and heard about the Timeless, it's more likely to be a great ball for your if your ball speed and revolutions are similar to those of Jason Belmonte. If you're substantially below that level of revs and ball speed, don't spend any money getting a Timeless. A Code Black, or a No Rules Pearl, or perhaps a Snap Lock will be a much better choice, not to mention maybe something like a Wreck-Em or a Dare Devil.

Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: Impending Doom on March 20, 2017, 07:10:17 AM
I'd definitely put a control or a strong layout for midlane on it. Skid flip ain't happening haha.

I'd punch it the same as my respect, my IQ fusion/solid, Optimus, hyroad. 

I've thought this from the word go. Larger Val angles and some surface. If you drill this one 70*5*25, you aren't going to have a fun time.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: Impending Doom on March 20, 2017, 07:11:43 AM
Oh yeah, one more thing... IT'S 1500 POLISHED! #breakthesurfaceplease
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: WOWZERS on March 20, 2017, 07:57:55 AM
I bowled in a March Madness Doubles tournament yesterday. One guy a few pairs down was using the Timeless and didn't do much in practice (was scouting for the next few games). He went front 7, stone 8, sheet for 279 and followed that with a 300 the next game. For his individual qualifying games he had 838 over 3 pairs.

Ball rolls great for him, but I do agree. I have seen the ball in about 5 people's hands and for 2 of them, the ball is magic. The other 3, not so much. I would almost say junk for the other 3.

Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: mrwizerd on March 20, 2017, 09:13:13 AM
I had success with the Hy-road, does anyone think that I would find success with the Timeless?

I'm curious about getting one, but I'm also hesitant because of it being created by/for Belmonte and his style is the complete opposite of mine.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: Cornerpin on March 20, 2017, 10:00:45 AM
Keep in mind, I've never thrown a timeless(yet). But in reading about it, the impression I get is that it reminds me of blade irons. It takes a highly skilled player to use them, and even then the fit has to be perfect. I also think that a lot of people are having issues because they're getting it drilled with their "favorite setup."  I think this one is gonna be on storm and the pro shops to figure out a good layout for the ball. From there it's on the bowler to trust the different than normal layout

Agree with the blade iron analogy.  I've never thrown the Timeless but from what I have seen, it seems to have same strong backend reaction no matter which part of the lane it is thrown.  So works well if you are really accurate and can hit your spot over and over but if you are like me (and most of us) and spray it around a little on the THS, it will not hold as much if tugged in the oil and go little too long before recovering if missed right.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: NHLfan88 on March 20, 2017, 10:04:04 AM
My only comment is LO-fricken-L at paying a premium for a hyroad with Belmos ugly silhouette on it. 

The only reason why this ball exists is because Belmo renegotiated his contract with storm to include a percentage of ball sales for this ball. 
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: billdozer on March 20, 2017, 10:23:41 AM
I'm a consumer, and I don't drink the Kool aid. I'm calling this as I see it. I was screwed on the crux, phaze, fight.  Hype is silly these days...
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: SBIBowler807 on March 20, 2017, 10:42:31 AM
Had a guy bowling next to me last week using it went last 23 (290 300) with his for 828.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: SVstar34 on March 20, 2017, 11:02:31 AM
I'm a consumer, and I don't drink the Kool aid. I'm calling this as I see it. Hype is silly these days...

100%
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: djgook on March 20, 2017, 11:47:13 AM
Here is my thoughts. First I like to say that if you are bowling on a FRESH house shot,it will do what a pearl going to do in all that oil. I am a Hammer Head and I have the Timeless at out of box surface. This ball is for when the lanes breakdown PERIOD. I have thrown my friends Code Black and it leaves a lot of splits. I am not a down and in player. I stand on 35 or 37 and yes I am a two hander. For me the Timeless is better then the Code black.
I think a lot of people don't like it because Belmo had something to do with this ball or they thought they was going to have all the revs and speed Belmo has(I bought my second timeless for 50.00 from someone who said it didn't look like belmo, That is another story lol). For those who don't like it just break the cover and stop thinking that it is a Hy road (which a lot of people was hoping for when this ball was being announce.
This ball is like all other balls. It works for some and not others. No one on here can name one ball that everybody could agree that it works for everyone. I will take an example from Hammer: The Scandal I love,but people was screaming for a pearl and saying that they hate this ball and it wouldn't move for them  ??? . So the Pearl comes out and more people like this ball, but they say it don't move in the oil  ???.
I believe if Belmo had nothing to do with this ball and it was called Hy road IQ tour etc. etc. this would't be a conversation.
One fact that everyone is saying is STORM HYPE TRAIN. Is this the only bowling company who push their product like it is a superstar?
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: ignitebowling on March 20, 2017, 12:07:52 PM
Seen a few use this ball now. One a low rev guy with the pin likey close to 6" from his pap and the others I'm not sure of.


This is a mid performance style ball sold in a high performance category.  It's been done before.

The biggest thing I see with this ball for most bowlers is its a harder surfaced ball with a 500/1000/2000/4000 plus polish finish.

So the ball will go for days and respond quickly to friction. For most bowlers on fresh conditions it is an over under nightmare. Surface adjustments can make it far more forgiving for the masses on a larger variety of conditions. In many cases this surface adjustment doesn't happen until the ball is plugged and re-drilled and magically rolls better.

I don't use storm but think I'd like this ball at 2000 sanded. Maybe 500/1000/2000 depending on the coverstock hardness.

Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: billdozer on March 20, 2017, 12:20:48 PM
Seen a few use this ball now. One a low rev guy with the pin likey close to 6" from his pap and the others I'm not sure of.


This is a mid performance style ball sold in a high performance category.  It's been done before.

The biggest thing I see with this ball for most bowlers is its a harder surfaced ball with a 500/1000/2000/4000 plus polish finish.

So the ball will go for days and respond quickly to friction. For most bowlers on fresh conditions it is an over under nightmare. Surface adjustments can make it far more forgiving for the masses on a larger variety of conditions. In many cases this surface adjustment doesn't happen until the ball is plugged and re-drilled and magically rolls better.

I don't use storm but think I'd like this ball at 2000 sanded. Maybe 500/1000/2000 depending on the coverstock hardness.



I agree



Just like the phaze and phaze II I feel the solid version will fair better than the pearl. Which is the opposite of the optimus pearl (being a lil better recieved than the solid).

Can't we just go back to the marvel line PWWEEAASSEE!?!?
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: LookingForALeftyWall on March 20, 2017, 12:24:35 PM
Can't we just go back to the marvel line PWWEEAASSEE!?!?

NO THANKS!
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: billdozer on March 20, 2017, 12:30:03 PM
Can't we just go back to the marvel line PWWEEAASSEE!?!?

NO THANKS!

The solid and pearl are the last time the master line was well received!!! 
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: LookingForALeftyWall on March 20, 2017, 12:31:11 PM
The funny thing about the Timeless to me is that everyone bought the hype before it came out.  This is the opposite of the Frantic, which, built up hype based on results.

Do your homework and stop buying on spec...
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: LookingForALeftyWall on March 20, 2017, 12:36:00 PM
Can't we just go back to the marvel line PWWEEAASSEE!?!?

NO THANKS!

The solid and pearl are the last time the master line was well received!!! 

I had the other 2 that were not as well received - a Marvel-S and a Modern Marvel and neither matched up well.  I should not have drilled the Marvel-S pin down so that's somewhat on me (and yes, there were surface changes).  The Modern Marvel may have been the worst ball I've ever owned.  It reminded me of a plastic ball with 180 grit - just the worst ball motion at any surface I tried.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: Nmpdx on March 20, 2017, 03:40:15 PM
I run a code black and it bites way too hard come second game. But comes back around 3rd game. I'm thinking the timeless would fit nicely once my code black is done. I'm still fairly newb but I am learning quickly to keep my hand behind the ball. I have become a down and in player so hoping it'll fit well.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: billdozer on March 20, 2017, 04:14:17 PM
I run a code black and it bites way too hard come second game. But comes back around 3rd game. I'm thinking the timeless would fit nicely once my code black is done. I'm still fairly newb but I am learning quickly to keep my hand behind the ball. I have become a down and in player so hoping it'll fit well.

I don't think the timeless is a ball down from r2s. The ball is a bit rolly.  I'd be thinking hyroad as the ball under the CB...
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: Nmpdx on March 20, 2017, 04:51:17 PM
I run a code black and it bites way too hard come second game. But comes back around 3rd game. I'm thinking the timeless would fit nicely once my code black is done. I'm still fairly newb but I am learning quickly to keep my hand behind the ball. I have become a down and in player so hoping it'll fit well.

I don't think the timeless is a ball down from r2s. The ball is a bit rolly.  I'd be thinking hyroad as the ball under the CB...

Thanks billdozer that's the input I'm looking for. How do you feel a wreckem would work in the step down area?
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: leftybowler70 on March 20, 2017, 06:38:37 PM
The Wreck-Em would fit perfectly in a major step down slot.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: billdozer on March 20, 2017, 10:50:36 PM
I run a code black and it bites way too hard come second game. But comes back around 3rd game. I'm thinking the timeless would fit nicely once my code black is done. I'm still fairly newb but I am learning quickly to keep my hand behind the ball. I have become a down and in player so hoping it'll fit well.

I don't think the timeless is a ball down from r2s. The ball is a bit rolly.  I'd be thinking hyroad as the ball under the CB...

Thanks billdozer that's the input I'm looking for. How do you feel a wreckem would work in the step down area?

The wreckem "should" be the ball underneath a hyroad BUT my best experience with the neutron core is to no cross too many board with it, for me, it desires the track area/straight up. 

Personally I couldn't recommend it.

I could see balling down and moving left...

CB
Hyroad
Match pearl/hustle
Pitch black

You could slot solids in there as well where needed.

Surelock/phaze II
CB
DDtrick/torrent/!Q Tour solid
Hyroad
Wreck-it/match solid
Pitch Black

I'd rather see that sanded wreck-it in there than the wreck em!
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: JamminJD on March 20, 2017, 11:03:11 PM
Haven't seen a good one yet, fyi.

Very unpredictable motion. 

I have seen about 12 roll now.

On beat up wood, beat up old synthetics, and newer synthetics.

No one, absolutely no one, will admit it's not "that good."

I mean most of the proshops have charged top dollar for em, and many Preordered them, many got it just cause of belmo (except their short 500 revs)...Yet no one will say it sucks. 

Very weird. Most people will say yeah I hate it.

One poor guy went from the original batch phaze--his worn out VG nano hooks and carries circles around it btw-- to the timeless...I feel so bad!

Anywho...I threw one with my favorite layout very close to my span...All I can say is that it was so-so with my hyroad rolling much better.  Very marvel pearl like



I threw one and fill the same way. The motion is unpredictable, and frustrating.
SO I am trying to say I didn't like it.lol
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: leftybowler70 on March 21, 2017, 05:02:38 AM
The Wreck-it is one HELLUVA strong ball, I can barely use it, except on conditions with more volume, slightly longer patterns. I wouldn't recommend it personally, too much ball, imo.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: billdozer on March 21, 2017, 08:00:43 AM
The Wreck-it is one HELLUVA strong ball, I can barely use it, except on conditions with more volume, slightly longer patterns. I wouldn't recommend it personally, too much ball, imo.

The few I've seen it was very tame. Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: amyers2002 on March 21, 2017, 10:22:38 AM
The early Wreck-it's that I seen when they first came out looked like they were finished at 300 grit. The latest ones I've seen haven't looked like that
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: leftybowler70 on March 21, 2017, 11:36:20 AM
Anytime bill;  there is something to this 1st/2nd batch pouring of balls that these  companies manufacture balls, every single Wreck-it seen as Luke posted months' ago was dead on the money, just way too early and too strong.

Different batches for different types of bowlers obviously. Mine is only gonna be used on heavier/long patterns only.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: BeerLeague on March 30, 2017, 11:55:31 AM
A few guys in my sport league have been killing it with the Timeless.  It seems to work well in the bigger handed bowlers.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: Jesse James on April 11, 2017, 12:32:59 PM
I saw a young lady bowler throwing a Timeless next to me, in a league I sub in. The condition was light oil......I noticed her bowling in the second game. She literally got four completely different reactions out of this ball, in four consecutive frames!

One time a strong arc; another time, an angular hook-set look; another time, a late-breaking skid snap, and one other time, a long, very predictable arc.

WHoa!! I honestly don't think she knew what she was doing, or for that matter what the ball was going to do either!

This is not condemning it.....just an observation! She was a low-rev bowler for sure.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: michael.willis9 on April 11, 2017, 02:31:38 PM
I almost got my hands on one for cheaper to give it a try as a low risk high reward option. Couldn't convince the wife to let me get another ball. Already got 2 in a 2 month span. I really wanna try it to see what the fuss is about
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: Walking E on April 11, 2017, 05:13:53 PM
Just to chime in, I've watched quite a few bowlers use this ball and I've seen practically everything already posted thus far, from the good (300 out of box) to the bad (can't miss left, can't miss right even on THS). Overall, much more so seeing the bad stuff than seeing the good stuff. I can't see myself ever getting one, especially at a premium price point.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: northface28 on April 11, 2017, 06:42:57 PM
This ball was a total exploitative money grab by Storm.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: leftybowler70 on April 11, 2017, 07:20:23 PM
Morthface,  +1000 nothing more
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: Strapper_Squared on April 11, 2017, 07:30:14 PM
I bought a used one and redrilled pin up with a stronger pin.
I will say that on the right condition, the ball looks good.  If it's not the right conditions...  Well - can't out bowl a bad reaction.

What I have seen is that the ball is a bit more of a hook/set.  If I try to get too far inside or too steep of an angle through the fronts, I don't see the continuation. 

My guess is because I have the ball at 1000 Abralon and factory finish polish...a strong surface.  But it does get decent length and lets me play straighter, as long as there is some oil.

I feel like if I smoothed out the surface, the ball would play better from inside (once lanes transition), but be would be over/under on the fresh.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: Rileybowler on April 11, 2017, 08:45:09 PM
I watched when Belmo s ball and he did not get one single flush pocket hit with it and to me that doesn't say a whole lot for the ball.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: tburky on April 12, 2017, 06:01:38 AM
I watched when Belmo s ball and he did not get one single flush pocket hit with it and to me that doesn't say a whole lot for the ball.

I don't know how a person can base whether or not a ball is good watching Belmo throwing it down the lane. You have to compare apples to apples.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: leftybowler70 on April 12, 2017, 10:46:49 AM
+1
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: keeones23 on April 27, 2017, 03:03:18 AM
I bought the timeless based on a recommendation of my driller because I was a fan of the hyroad. So far they aren't really that similar. I like it thus far but I'm not in love. I have medium revs/speed. I carried shots I shouldn't have and I didn't carry shots I thought I would've. I'm intrigued with the reaction though, it reminds me of the hammer venom from a few years back. I like storm but their stuff is kinda pricey. It's too early to say if it's worth the money, but I'd say the hype is real.
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: DP3 on April 27, 2017, 03:24:30 PM
The great thing I'm seeing about this ball, is whenever my team is bowling against 1 or more players throwing one, it's an automatic win every time. The window that this ball makes it's move in is way too small for the average league bowler to control. We bowl on a 2nd shift league with a re-oil of the heads so right away the lanes are too wet in the front, too choppy in the mids, and depending on what zone you're in you either get too much motion off the spot, or too much push from inside.

When I'm bowling against someone throwing a Timeless, I can always count on them going  Light pocket strike-> washout-> Trip 4 strike-> Big 4.

I could actually see them making a "Tour" version that's a little more predictable for many different styles and them touting it as the greatest ball ever made. .....wait, they already have a Hyroad.

...Too many balls. Sheesh
Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: xrayjay on April 27, 2017, 04:50:55 PM
I bowled against a senior who used a timeless. the ball does look really nice. I also bowl second shift, but with no re oiling. The first game he was fishing. Just like what DP3 mentioned, he came in light, wash, late 4 or 4 9 lol, 5 7 and strike..... Second game one frame 9/ for 279. Last game was decent but the timeless seemed to not get into a roll on time, or roll out early...

When the ball is on line to the pocket, it's really fun to watch though....

I've seen The CB, it's a heavy hitter but too much ball for the THS we bowl on. but seems to be popular among the seniors with decent revs and speed. not the kind of speed where you can walk to the bar and order food or beer and come back in time for your second shot.

Title: Re: Funniest thing I'm noticing with bowlers who have the timeless
Post by: Rileybowler on April 30, 2017, 08:01:55 PM
I watched when Belmo s ball and he did not get one single flush pocket hit with it and to me that doesn't say a whole lot for the ball.

I don't know how a person can base whether or not a ball is good watching Belmo throwing it down the lane. You have to compare apples to apples.
Well Belmo is a pro and the ball was made for him and although he won the reaction was anything but good. If a pro can't get the ball to the pocket then I personally would be leary of purchasing it