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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: BradleyInIrving on June 14, 2017, 04:40:12 AM

Title: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: BradleyInIrving on June 14, 2017, 04:40:12 AM
Out of the array of new stuff coming out, what ball is the one being most looked forward to being drilled up for you?
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Post by: lbss831 on June 14, 2017, 04:53:52 AM
Code Red and Marvel Pearl
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Post by: wkf0908 on June 14, 2017, 05:00:46 AM
Black Quantum & Hot Cell
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Post by: northface28 on June 14, 2017, 06:26:49 AM
Hot Cell screams clearance off the name alone.
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Post by: abrown on June 14, 2017, 07:41:52 AM
Cherry vibe, and the inferno 2 balls i loved in the past although none of the remakes seem to match the originals.
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Post by: Impending Doom on June 14, 2017, 07:55:36 AM
It's a toss up between the Ninja Pearl or a Covert Ops. Inception DCT I'm on the fence about and Honey Badger is a possibility in my book.
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Post by: suhoney24 on June 14, 2017, 09:14:04 AM
Roto grip show off and hustle ink
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Post by: 2handedrook12 on June 14, 2017, 10:35:04 AM
Not sure if or when I'm drilling the Marvel Pearl so I'll say Code Red.
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Post by: MaidenheadBandit on June 14, 2017, 10:46:02 AM
Seismic Axion..
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Post by: tkkshop on June 14, 2017, 10:55:10 AM
how about something with the Sigma core. That would be nice ;D
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Post by: SVstar34 on June 14, 2017, 10:55:21 AM
Well, looks like I'll have to decide on 2 to drill.

Really like the Black Quantum, Inferno, Rumor, Creed, Freak Show Flip, Blue Vibe, and EBI has a few more balls to be announced as well.

My mind keeps coming back to the Black Quantum, something about it has an allure for the way I throw the ball.
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Post by: CoorZero on June 14, 2017, 11:18:07 AM
Just for reference, here they are (not counting any new color options for current balls):

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Roto Grip: No Rules EXIST, Hot Cell, Show Off, Hustle INK

Storm: Code Red, Marvel Pearl, Match Up, Match Up Pearl

Brunswick: Quantum Black Classic, Fanatic BTU Pearl, Vintage Inferno, Magnitude 035

DV8: Freakshow Flip, Creed, Pitbull Growl, Rumor

Radical: Quick Fix, Tremendous

Columbia 300: Juke

Ebonite:

Hammer: Diesel, Blue Vibe, Cherry Vibe

Track:

900 Global: Inception DCT, Honey Badger, Covert Ops

AMF: Ninja Pearl SE

Motiv: Tag Cannon

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That's 27 from the "big" names, with more to come from EBI and probably Storm...  :o
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: suhoney24 on June 14, 2017, 11:21:50 AM
Will ebonite be announcing anything? Saw on tracks Facebook they said a few weeks for news
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Post by: SVstar34 on June 14, 2017, 11:23:45 AM
Will ebonite be announcing anything? Saw on tracks Facebook they said a few weeks for news

Ya, there is still a few more to come from EBI. Track Kinetic Ruby on the approved list now also
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Post by: tkkshop on June 14, 2017, 11:26:27 AM
Just for reference, here they are (not counting any new color options for current balls):

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Motiv: Tag Cannon, one more being announced at EXPO


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That's 27 from the "big" names, with more to come from EBI and probably Storm...  :o
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Post by: ignitebowling on June 14, 2017, 11:33:55 AM
Still waiting. Not seen any must haves yet. May work out to buy the stuff going on closeout I've had success with this past season.
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: CoorZero on June 14, 2017, 11:36:50 AM
Just for reference, here they are (not counting any new color options for current balls):

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Motiv: Tag Cannon, one more being announced at EXPO


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That's 27 from the "big" names, with more to come from EBI and probably Storm...  :o

Cool. Maybe something to replace the Primal Rage Remix? Can't believe that one has stuck around for a while after some of the other newer releases have already been retired.

The Tag Cannon is really interesting to me too. Cleaner AND stronger off the spot than the Tag? Sounds ridiculous, but also like a lot of fun when you can use it.
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Post by: Freddy on June 14, 2017, 01:21:35 PM
I am looking forward to the Motiv Tag Cannon that will be coming out the middle of next month. 
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Post by: JazlarVonSteich on June 14, 2017, 01:46:31 PM
I know it is a smaller/new company, but Monster Bowling also has the Kraken and Boogieman coming out. I picked up the Lochness Monster out of curiosity, so I will likely get these two as well.

Out of the bigger companies, I'm going to pick up the Honey Badger next. Interested to see what kind of reaction I get in 14lbs with the lower differential.
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Post by: BowlingforSoup on June 14, 2017, 02:15:49 PM
Amazing 20 new balls wtf.Starting to get ridiculous if you ask me.Whos buying all these balls.Recycled cores with a different color.Sucker born everyday I guess.And all I ever hear is oh the ball companies aren't making any money.When does this insanity stop?
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Post by: cheech on June 14, 2017, 08:37:13 PM
I know it is a smaller/new company, but Monster Bowling also has the Kraken and Boogieman coming out. I picked up the Lochness Monster out of curiosity, so I will likely get these two as well.

Out of the bigger companies, I'm going to pick up the Honey Badger next. Interested to see what kind of reaction I get in 14lbs with the lower differential.

the two new ones from monster are going to be good. i demoed them the kraken has a similar shape and strength the an OG virtual gravity. the boogieman has a modified 2fast/2furious core with a hybrid cover i believe. its like a weaker version of a hyroad.i rarely have a use for a ball like the kraken but i LOVED the boogieman.
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Post by: mainzer on June 14, 2017, 10:24:57 PM
Amazing 20 new balls wtf.Starting to get ridiculous if you ask me.Whos buying all these balls.Recycled cores with a different color.Sucker born everyday I guess.And all I ever hear is oh the ball companies aren't making any money.When does this insanity stop?

Why would you want to stop a multi million dollar per year business?
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: Impending Doom on June 14, 2017, 10:33:08 PM
Because the ROI when you make a quality product will make you more money than making a bunch of products that will be discontinued in 6 months. The cost to make a new core and R&D is stupid high. Make a well thought-out product, and you will make more money than "Let's saturate the market!!"
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Post by: northface28 on June 14, 2017, 11:54:04 PM
Because the ROI when you make a quality product will make you more money than making a bunch of products that will be discontinued in 6 months. The cost to make a new core and R&D is stupid high. Make a well thought-out product, and you will make more money than "Let's saturate the market!!"

Na bruh, youth bowling is on the upswing and a lot of these parents are shelling out big bucks to get the latest and greatest.
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Post by: Snakster on June 15, 2017, 07:42:01 AM
how about something with the Sigma core. That would be nice ;D

+1
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Post by: Snakster on June 15, 2017, 07:46:27 AM
Because the ROI when you make a quality product will make you more money than making a bunch of products that will be discontinued in 6 months. The cost to make a new core and R&D is stupid high. Make a well thought-out product, and you will make more money than "Let's saturate the market!!"

Na bruh, youth bowling is on the upswing and a lot of these parents are shelling out big bucks to get the latest and greatest.

Truth.  My son does not lack for equipment.  Although it's a mixture of old and new.  More often than not, I grab good stuff on closeout.
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Post by: djgook on June 15, 2017, 08:29:06 AM
Yea my son is 5 and I just purchased a NIB Viral Solid under 45.00 it is a 10lb.
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Post by: Impending Doom on June 15, 2017, 09:29:38 AM
Yea my son is 5 and I just purchased a NIB Viral Solid under 45.00 it is a 10lb.

Your son is 5 and is throwing 10 lbs? You might be stretching things a bit here. My kids are 7, 5, and 5 and they're using 6...
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: Impending Doom on June 15, 2017, 09:42:04 AM
Because the ROI when you make a quality product will make you more money than making a bunch of products that will be discontinued in 6 months. The cost to make a new core and R&D is stupid high. Make a well thought-out product, and you will make more money than "Let's saturate the market!!"

Na bruh, youth bowling is on the upswing and a lot of these parents are shelling out big bucks to get the latest and greatest.
But there is something to be said for marketing. Joe Consumer sees a HyRoad on the shelf, hear it's a great ball, and goes to buy it next season.

They also hear that the Break is a great ball, but by the time normal people get around to buying a ball (not us junkies who probably put on our phone calendar the release dates), it's been the Eagle, then the Ops line. Same freaking ball, 3 different names. People don't see it, so they pick something else. Good product shouldn't be renamed. Make a name and stand by it. A Black Break today would sell just as much as it did 9 years ago. Remember Nitros and Turbos and Rhinos and Thunders? The name sold it because it had a reputation. Explaining that "this ball is exactly the same ball, just different name" doesn't make the consumer confident.
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Post by: Good Times Good Times on June 15, 2017, 09:57:47 AM
Yea my son is 5 and I just purchased a NIB Viral Solid under 45.00 it is a 10lb.

Your son is 5 and is throwing 10 lbs? You might be stretching things a bit here. My kids are 7, 5, and 5 and they're using 6...

Just tell them to throw "man weight".  :o  :o  :P
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Post by: DP3 on June 15, 2017, 10:02:20 AM
I'm still stockpiling Gamebreaker 2s. No time for this new ball stuff.
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Post by: lefty50 on June 15, 2017, 10:54:07 AM
That's a good plan for a great and tested ball.
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Post by: JazlarVonSteich on June 15, 2017, 11:06:40 AM
the two new ones from monster are going to be good. i demoed them the kraken has a similar shape and strength the an OG virtual gravity. the boogieman has a modified 2fast/2furious core with a hybrid cover i believe. its like a weaker version of a hyroad.i rarely have a use for a ball like the kraken but i LOVED the boogieman.

This is good to hear. I'm going to buy the Kraken just to have it, but it is the Boogieman I am more looking forward to. I bowled 4 leagues the past 2 years, so if I do the same again (or at least 3), I'm going to dedicate one league to just Monster balls.
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: CoorZero on June 15, 2017, 11:31:47 AM
I'm still stockpiling Gamebreaker 2s. No time for this new ball stuff.

All these new balls coming out means that the clearance racks are going to be nice and full when league season starts... At least that's how I look at it.  ;D
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on June 15, 2017, 02:23:56 PM

Every company wants some new releases to show off at Bowl Expo.  When you consider that 20 balls, or whatever the number is, are being released at this time frame it's not that crazy.  It happens every year.





Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: BowlingforSoup on June 15, 2017, 02:40:31 PM
Funny how the staffers always say I see nothing wrong with all these new releases.Of course not, nice to throw new balls every few months when you get them free for praising how great they are.As a non staffer its a joke.Half the balls that are on companies ball charts are discontinued.If they were any good they would still be hanging around.
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: LyalC52 on June 15, 2017, 03:38:34 PM
having a blast this summer with a Special Ops and Desert Ops
so glad I gave 900G a try again

already pre-ordered a Honey Badger, and debating between a Covert Ops or Black Ops now
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: Good Times Good Times on June 15, 2017, 05:16:01 PM
But.....all of these new releases are around 3-4 boards stronger than their predecessors.
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Post by: lefty50 on June 15, 2017, 05:38:19 PM
I wonder how many more times we'll be able to handle new release that are 3-4 boards stronger. There are only 40 boards on the lane   :)  Stronger balls, different oils... vicious cycle.
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: Impending Doom on June 15, 2017, 06:05:16 PM
You know who loses in all this? The PSO. Having to keep limited stock because it's going to be discontinued in 6 months is horrible for business.
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Post by: JamminJD on June 15, 2017, 06:42:22 PM
You know who loses in all this? The PSO. Having to keep limited stock because it's going to be discontinued in 6 months is horrible for business.
Yep that is the real problem with this. PSO just can't juggle all this stock. My PSO operator has really been complaining more since the last two wave of releases from EBI. He just can't move the old stock at all or fast enough!
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on June 15, 2017, 07:58:04 PM
 
You know who loses in all this? The PSO. Having to keep limited stock because it's going to be discontinued in 6 months is horrible for business.

It's a challenge for sure.  Going one step further, it's probably a challenge for the distributors, too.  It seems to be the way now.

How many times on this site are people asking "what's next"?  Suggesting what they'd like to see...  Even before new releases are on the market, they want to know what's next

We, the bowlers, tend to over-analyze everything.  We talk about core numbers, etc, as if we could really tell one from the other on the lanes.  I believe that as long as HUMANS are the ones rolling the balls, we will always need to "buffer" any conversation with the reality of the "human element". 

Yes, drilling up a new ball will always be fun.  We probably, however, should put less emphasis on the ball and more on rolling it consistently.  A great ball in the hands of a great bowler is tough to beat, but every ball isn't going to match up with every bowler.  Find your "A game" and then purchase balls that compliment that style; nothing more and nothing less.

Taking 6 balls to bowl on a THS is ridiculous in my mind.  They drag them in, throw one or two, and then drag them out.  I take one "straight" ball and two "crooked" ones (and figure if I can't make it work most of the time then the problem lies with me and not a ball). 

How many times have you seen that guy who brought 6 balls to league actually throw them all?  If he did then he NEVER got lined up, and once again, the problem probably was not with any of the balls but more likely the guy throwing them lousy that particular night. 

THERE IS NO MAGIC BALL. (Sorry to disappoint.)  Complain all you want about the new releases, or the old releases, or everything else under the sun if it makes you happy.  You can "wish" in one hand and spit in the other and then see which hand has the most in it. ;)


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Post by: Impending Doom on June 15, 2017, 08:07:17 PM
The guy brought 6 balls to league so they could all be together! #noballleftbehind
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Post by: northface28 on June 15, 2017, 08:54:57 PM
I bowl with a donkey in the fall that does this. He brings six balls, averages a hair over 190 on a condition that's been the same for the last 8 years. We know what to expect.
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Post by: Impending Doom on June 15, 2017, 09:14:09 PM
He might break deuce if he adds 3 more.
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Post by: lilpossum1 on June 15, 2017, 11:27:18 PM
I actually finally figured out what ball and a general idea of a drilling I needed for my game on what I bowl on. Had a kinetic emerald drilled up for length and moderate back end. A month and a half later in two different houses and two leagues, it is the only ball I have thrown this whole time. Bring 4 balls to league, and I don't bring out the other three. Averaging better than I ever have in both houses  and I am not even considering ball changes for carry because I know I can make this ball work. And keep in mind that I never know the conditions I will see
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: Cartybowls on June 16, 2017, 07:30:54 AM
I'm kinda liking the look of the new Brunswick Magnum 035 or whatever it's called :)
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Post by: suhoney24 on June 16, 2017, 05:23:55 PM
Just seen on Facebook the new motiv ball will be the "forza ss".... Red and black... 8/23/17 release
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Post by: milorafferty on June 16, 2017, 06:02:44 PM
Just seen on Facebook the new motiv ball will be the "forza ss".... Red and black... 8/23/17 release

I could get into a new Forza, as long as they don't pull another "Red Line" on us...
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Post by: tkkshop on June 16, 2017, 06:49:07 PM
Just seen on Facebook the new motiv ball will be the "forza ss".... Red and black... 8/23/17 release
go back and read my posts on this thread and connect the dots on the core ;)
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: milorafferty on June 16, 2017, 06:53:32 PM
Just seen on Facebook the new motiv ball will be the "forza ss".... Red and black... 8/23/17 release
go back and read my posts on this thread and connect the dots on the core ;)

Love the Sigma core...
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Post by: tkkshop on June 16, 2017, 07:28:03 PM
3k solid
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Post by: Bowlmore on June 18, 2017, 04:00:34 PM
https://aloha-bowling.de/shop/gx2/Baelle/motiv-forza-ss.html
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Post by: SVstar34 on June 18, 2017, 04:38:36 PM
https://aloha-bowling.de/shop/gx2/Baelle/motiv-forza-ss.html

So Forza with Revolt Havoc cover
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: Impending Doom on June 18, 2017, 06:47:37 PM
Yea my son is 5 and I just purchased a NIB Viral Solid under 45.00 it is a 10lb.

Your son is 5 and is throwing 10 lbs? You might be stretching things a bit here. My kids are 7, 5, and 5 and they're using 6...

Just tell them to throw "man weight".  :o  :o  :P

But they're all girls!
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Post by: freak761 on June 18, 2017, 07:14:52 PM
Forza with the Sigma core and Havoc coverstock. Interesting!
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Post by: djgook on June 19, 2017, 07:17:34 AM
Yea my son is 5 and I just purchased a NIB Viral Solid under 45.00 it is a 10lb.

Your son is 5 and is throwing 10 lbs? You might be stretching things a bit here. My kids are 7, 5, and 5 and they're using 6...

Just tell them to throw "man weight".  :o  :o  :P

But they're all girls!

He throws two handed. If he was a one hander he probably would still be throwing 6Lbs. The ball comes Wednesday and i will post him throwing it. If you go on my facebook page you will see him slinging 8Lbs. with ease.
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: SVstar34 on June 20, 2017, 10:42:52 PM
Word finally out on the Kinetic Ruby from bowl expo. Supposed release date is 7/11 with the QR-6 solid cover 500/2000 box surface
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Post by: JamminJD on June 20, 2017, 10:54:39 PM
Seen the Matrix but they are still hush about it. Or at least I didn't hear anything...
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Post by: Impending Doom on June 20, 2017, 11:00:17 PM
Seen the Matrix but they are still hush about it. Or at least I didn't hear anything...

Retro balls are all the Rage!

(Someone bring back the Rage series. Outrage in particular.)
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: JamminJD on June 20, 2017, 11:29:18 PM
Seen the Matrix but they are still hush about it. Or at least I didn't hear anything...

Retro balls are all the Rage!

(Someone bring back the Rage series. Outrage in particular.)

Outrage was a great ball. Shot 800 on the dot with it!
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Post by: noslouch on June 21, 2017, 12:56:11 AM
Motiv Primal Rage Remix is pretty close in performance to the old Col. Rage series. Good skid flip even for weak handed bowlers
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Post by: DP3 on June 21, 2017, 05:18:24 PM
There's a blue/black/silver EBI ball that everyone is raging about. It's noticeably way more angular than every other ball being tested. There's a brief Facebook clip of Amleto throwing it and it looked really impressive.
Title: Re: 20 new balls coming out...
Post by: JamminJD on June 21, 2017, 07:41:12 PM
There's a blue/black/silver EBI ball that everyone is raging about. It's noticeably way more angular than every other ball being tested. There's a brief Facebook clip of Amleto throwing it and it looked really impressive.
That's one of the mystery balls they have at Expo for testing and feedback. Most people they have talked to like it better than the shiny one..