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Title: New Dare Devil?
Post by: SVstar34 on September 20, 2017, 12:22:42 PM
So the Intense ended up being a US release, here's to hoping this is as well.

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Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: tloy on September 20, 2017, 01:30:53 PM
Agreed!!! Looks like a Hybrid to replace the Hywire :)
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: CoorZero on September 20, 2017, 01:57:14 PM
Yeah, cosmetically that definitely looks like a hybrid. Not a bad color scheme either.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on September 20, 2017, 03:10:04 PM
Hmm hybrid Dare Devil seems like it would be sweet, not sure I'm diggin the colors though.

I want to see a hybrid Phaze...
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: lefty50 on September 20, 2017, 03:27:19 PM
Love the color scheme..... I might take a chance on this one,even though it doesn't quite fit my needs right now.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: DP3 on September 20, 2017, 03:27:42 PM
I hope that ball looks as good in person. Schlem comes up with some pretty nice color schemes that actually make it seem like "This is a new ball". Beats the Purple/Red/Black, Black/Red, Black/Blue schemes that we see 20 times a year, all brands combined.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: lefty50 on September 20, 2017, 03:49:45 PM
Any guesses as to release date and when we'll know if it's US release?
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: SVstar34 on September 20, 2017, 03:55:40 PM
I hope that ball looks as good in person. Schlem comes up with some pretty nice color schemes that actually make it seem like "This is a new ball". Beats the Purple/Red/Black, Black/Red, Black/Blue schemes that we see 20 times a year, all brands combined.

I agree. It could be interesting Red Pearl/Navy Solid/Orange. The red definitely has a pearl look while the navy looks to be solid.

It didn't take too long to hear from Storm on the Intense after it was on the approved list. I'd say we might hear something in a couple weeks. Maybe beginning/middle of November release if it's here in the US
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: Luke Rosdahl on September 25, 2017, 08:02:20 AM
The Phaze/G, one of the best looking balls ever, is a hybrid.  It's also overseas. 

Hmm hybrid Dare Devil seems like it would be sweet, not sure I'm diggin the colors though.

I want to see a hybrid Phaze...
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: tburky on September 25, 2017, 10:12:00 AM
Would like to see a phaze with r2s pearl on it instead of the ax16 or whatever was cover.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on September 25, 2017, 09:13:50 PM
Would like to see a phaze with r2s pearl on it instead of the ax16 or whatever was cover.

Overseas version is that.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on September 25, 2017, 09:16:24 PM
I can't decide if a hybrid Phaze or Hybrid Dare Devil would be better as I won't be buying both.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: SVstar34 on September 25, 2017, 10:25:44 PM
I can't decide if a hybrid Phaze or Hybrid Dare Devil would be better as I won't be buying both.

I'd look towards the hybrid Dare Devil personally. Less responsive than the original but more than the Trick sounds like a solid reaction
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on September 26, 2017, 09:19:14 AM
I can't decide if a hybrid Phaze or Hybrid Dare Devil would be better as I won't be buying both.

I'd look towards the hybrid Dare Devil personally. Less responsive than the original but more than the Trick sounds like a solid reaction

Yeah good point. Plus, I think a hyrid Phaze would be too close to my Marvel Pearl and Code Red, where as the hybrid Dare Devil would give a better gap.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: lefty50 on September 30, 2017, 07:59:22 PM
Bump... Any one have updates on the Danger? I've been holding off on purchases for this league season, waiting to see how the Intense and Danger end up. Any news if the Danger will be Stateside?
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: Luke Rosdahl on October 01, 2017, 11:09:18 AM
I'm betting yes, stateside.  That looks like a US release.  I'm betting very early December for a release date.  The new Storm stuff is end of October, and I believe we had some December Roto releases last year, so that's what I'm betting on is first or second week of December we see the Danger. 

Bump... Any one have updates on the Danger? I've been holding off on purchases for this league season, waiting to see how the Intense and Danger end up. Any news if the Danger will be Stateside?
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on October 01, 2017, 11:20:15 AM
With any self control, I'll make this the last ball I add for this season... we'll see how that goes....
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: lefty50 on October 01, 2017, 11:48:48 AM
Thanks Luke. I don't usually wait for release dates, but for some reason I just see this one in my bag, not sure why.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on October 01, 2017, 07:24:49 PM
I'm betting yes, stateside.  That looks like a US release.  I'm betting very early December for a release date.  The new Storm stuff is end of October, and I believe we had some December Roto releases last year, so that's what I'm betting on is first or second week of December we see the Danger. 

Bump... Any one have updates on the Danger? I've been holding off on purchases for this league season, waiting to see how the Intense and Danger end up. Any news if the Danger will be Stateside?

If continuing the cycle, I see Storm's next releases dropping in Feb/March, obviously excluding Intense & Match Up Hybrid. Roto dropping Dec/Jan & again in March.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: Dominic Pugh on October 02, 2017, 08:34:11 AM
Ladies and Gentament. The Dare Devil Danger has been release overseas!! Wewill get them soon but have to sell HotCell
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on October 02, 2017, 11:18:57 AM
Ladies and Gentament. The Dare Devil Danger has been release overseas!! Wewill get them soon but have to sell HotCell

So we are definitely getting it, but have to wait on them to push the premier line priced Urethane first is what you're saying?
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: leftybowler70 on October 02, 2017, 12:31:01 PM
Interesting ball......
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on October 11, 2017, 12:47:11 PM
Schlem on FB...15 mins ago. Dropped the #YaWelcome comes out 11/24

So Psyched..stronger than R2S? Guess we won't really know. I just hope it's not like the Timeless because I'm placing my order soon on this one.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: ImaRedbird on October 11, 2017, 03:33:35 PM
Is it a Hybrid?
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: SVstar34 on October 11, 2017, 03:38:16 PM
Is it a Hybrid?

Yes. Both the Danger and All Out Show Off are hybrid covers
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: CoorZero on October 11, 2017, 07:19:50 PM
The Psyched is the same cover that is one the Hustle SAY and was on the Wreck-It.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: SVstar34 on October 11, 2017, 07:50:33 PM
The Psyched is the same cover that is one the Hustle SAY and was on the Wreck-It.

I actually think that'll be a good cover match with the MadCap core.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: CoorZero on October 11, 2017, 09:37:50 PM
The Psyched is the same cover that is one the Hustle SAY and was on the Wreck-It.

I actually think that'll be a good cover match with the MadCap core.

So do I. With how good the first two Dare Devil balls have been I'm fairly confident in the next iteration living up to the hype. Roto Grip seems to be especially good on delivering great stuff later on when one of their lines/cores is a hit.

Man, there are a lot of balls out or coming up that I really want. Absolutely don't need any of them. Also don't care. Going to be hard limiting it to one (or three) options...
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: SVstar34 on October 11, 2017, 09:58:55 PM
The Psyched is the same cover that is one the Hustle SAY and was on the Wreck-It.

I actually think that'll be a good cover match with the MadCap core.

So do I. With how good the first two Dare Devil balls have been I'm fairly confident in the next iteration living up to the hype. Roto Grip seems to be especially good on delivering great stuff later on when one of their lines/cores is a hit.

Man, there are a lot of balls out or coming up that I really want. Absolutely don't need any of them. Also don't care. Going to be hard limiting it to one (or three) options...

Haha i know. It's also difficult when your center actually decides to put out more oil and it opens up the whole upper level of equipment that i really haven't been able to use much the 4 years I've bowled there
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: Zaner on October 11, 2017, 10:52:59 PM
Does anyone know if its 2 parts Pearl, 1 part Solid.. or 1 part Pearl, 2 parts Solid?
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on October 11, 2017, 11:29:31 PM
Does anyone know if its 2 parts Pearl, 1 part Solid.. or 1 part Pearl, 2 parts Solid?

2 pearl 1 solid
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: CoorZero on October 11, 2017, 11:57:07 PM
If you look closely at the Dare Devil Trick picture it looks like blue and orange solid with red pearl. So two solids and one pearl.

Though to be fair I don't think that really means anything. It's just a visual characteristic, and not one that actually affects ball motion. On the Wreck-It and Hustle SAY the coloring was two pearl and one solid. So either it's not the same Psyched coverstock... or it's just marketing. I'm putting all my chips on the latter.

Of course this could veer off into the "hybrid doesn't actually exist" conversation, which I agree with on the overall basis (not like companies weren't making the in-between coverstock reactions before that coin was termed), but lets keep this simple.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on October 12, 2017, 10:55:17 AM
If you look closely at the Dare Devil Trick picture it looks like blue and orange solid with red pearl. So two solids and one pearl.

Though to be fair I don't think that really means anything. It's just a visual characteristic, and not one that actually affects ball motion. On the Wreck-It and Hustle SAY the coloring was two pearl and one solid. So either it's not the same Psyched coverstock... or it's just marketing. I'm putting all my chips on the latter.

Of course this could veer off into the "hybrid doesn't actually exist" conversation, which I agree with on the overall basis (not like companies weren't making the in-between coverstock reactions before that coin was termed), but lets keep this simple.

"On the outside you will find the proven Psychedâ„¢ Hybrid reactive cover. Comprised of 2 parts pearl & 1 part solid, this cover will provide length through the front of the lane and offer a more predictable reaction off the friction down lane."
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: Zaner on October 12, 2017, 11:02:14 AM
Thanks for the replies! In my arsenal I have the DD, the DDT, and the Hustle SAY. Im hoping the DDD is 2 parts pearl 1 part solid like the SAY, which I like but I found doesn't react much different than the DD just not as strong through the pins.
I think the DDD will fit perfectly between the DDT and DD for league.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: CoorZero on October 12, 2017, 11:04:04 AM
"On the outside you will find the proven Psychedâ„¢ Hybrid reactive cover. Comprised of 2 parts pearl & 1 part solid, this cover will provide length through the front of the lane and offer a more predictable reaction off the friction down lane."

I thoroughly dislike Roto Grip not having those little blurbs to the left automatically on the screen. Don't make me click more!  ;D

Still don't think it means anything though. 2 parts pearl, 1 part solid or 2 parts solid, 1 part pearl. Doesn't work that way as far as I have learned. It's not like the companies are taking two different coverstocks and pouring them together like one would with whiskey and coke. It's a whole separate formulation.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: spmcgivern on October 12, 2017, 11:23:39 AM
"On the outside you will find the proven Psychedâ„¢ Hybrid reactive cover. Comprised of 2 parts pearl & 1 part solid, this cover will provide length through the front of the lane and offer a more predictable reaction off the friction down lane."

I thoroughly dislike Roto Grip not having those little blurbs to the left automatically on the screen. Don't make me click more!  ;D

Still don't think it means anything though. 2 parts pearl, 1 part solid or 2 parts solid, 1 part pearl. Doesn't work that way as far as I have learned. It's not like the companies are taking two different coverstocks and pouring them together like one would with whiskey and coke. It's a whole separate formulation.

Imagine the confusion if the companies stated, "Ball has 35% less additive." 

Being an engineer it makes perfect sense.  But a lot of people don't think like I do.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on October 12, 2017, 11:24:49 AM
"On the outside you will find the proven Psychedâ„¢ Hybrid reactive cover. Comprised of 2 parts pearl & 1 part solid, this cover will provide length through the front of the lane and offer a more predictable reaction off the friction down lane."

I thoroughly dislike Roto Grip not having those little blurbs to the left automatically on the screen. Don't make me click more!  ;D

Still don't think it means anything though. 2 parts pearl, 1 part solid or 2 parts solid, 1 part pearl. Doesn't work that way as far as I have learned. It's not like the companies are taking two different coverstocks and pouring them together like one would with whiskey and coke. It's a whole separate formulation.

Haha  ;)

I also agree.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: 2handedrook12 on October 12, 2017, 01:51:39 PM
Speculating two parts solid one part pearl.
Title: Re: New Dare Devil?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on October 12, 2017, 01:56:59 PM
Speculating two parts solid one part pearl.

 ???