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Equipment Boards => Motiv => Topic started by: rico4life on October 11, 2017, 08:33:55 AM
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I have a jackal ghost and a octane burn drilled the same I am looking for something to fit in between them, had a trident and it hooked too closely to my ghost, looking for suggestions, has to be motiv.
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What kind of shape would you like to see out of this middle ball? Early and smooth(Jackal Ghost) or more of a skid/flip(Octane Burn)?
IMO Venom Shock or Forza SS if you want the more smooth look. Primal Fear if you're looking for length and movement.
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United revolt would also be a good choice.....
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If going to be a Motiv guy definitely need a venom shock in the bag. That ball even interests me and I have never owned a Motiv piece. Pretty much the ultimate benchmark ball.
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The Forza SS would be a good fit, but it depends on your style and the shape you want.
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Nope. Never wanted and don't need a Venom Shock. I really get tired of people who know nothing about your game saying you must have a Venom Shock.
I'm not saying it's not a good ball, but let's be real. It does not fit everyone.
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That's a big gap to fill with a lot of options to fill it. Even just sticking to Motiv. Depends on your desired shape/reaction between those two.
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Nope. Never wanted and don't need a Venom Shock. I really get tired of people who know nothing about your game saying you must have a Venom Shock.
I'm not saying it's not a good ball, but let's be real. It does not fit everyone.
True it just matches up with more people than virtually any other ball but not everyone.
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True it just matches up with more people than virtually any other ball but not everyone.
Spoken like a true professional and a caring bowling scholar.
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True it just matches up with more people than virtually any other ball but not everyone.
Spoken like a true professional and a caring bowling scholar.
Fine won't ever mention again. Not a Motiv guy anyway so I have no skin in the game. Buy whatever the hell you want man. Teach me to suggest anything to randos on here.
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I'm confused. :-[ So sorry you took it as an insult or whatever. It was meant as a compliment and nothing more. l do and have respect for your bowling knowledge. I'm now @ a loss. :( I do apologize if I upset you in any way, shape of form. It wasn't my intention @ all.
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Well this thread went as sideways as my Hy-Road Pearl..hey that's a really good ball btw ;D
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I am thinking for now that I'm not going to put a ball between them, but put the octane in the middle and use my artic sniper as my last ball out of the bag.
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I'm confused. :-[ So sorry you took it as an insult or whatever. It was meant as a compliment and nothing more. l do and have respect for your bowling knowledge. I'm now @ a loss. :( I do apologize if I upset you in any way, shape of form. It wasn't my intention @ all.
Sorry. Totally took it the wrong way. Guess having a teen in the house too easy to assume sarcasm. Honestly like I say not a Motiv guy and so everything I am saying is second hand but know Motiv guys speak about the Venom Shock in the same way Storm guys speak about the Hy-Road and have that one and the pearl and understand why they speak the way they do. Venom Shock is basically a better IQ Tour (regret selecting the latter since I bowl mostly THS but oh well). Didn't mean to have thin skin there. Still plenty of people don't match up with the Hy-Road either so that is why we have choices.
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I'm confused. :-[ So sorry you took it as an insult or whatever. It was meant as a compliment and nothing more. l do and have respect for your bowling knowledge. I'm now @ a loss. :( I do apologize if I upset you in any way, shape of form. It wasn't my intention @ all.
Sorry. Totally took it the wrong way. Guess having a teen in the house too easy to assume sarcasm. Honestly like I say not a Motiv guy and so everything I am saying is second hand but know Motiv guys speak about the Venom Shock in the same way Storm guys speak about the Hy-Road and have that one and the pearl and understand why they speak the way they do. Venom Shock is basically a better IQ Tour (regret selecting the latter since I bowl mostly THS but oh well). Didn't mean to have thin skin there. Still plenty of people don't match up with the Hy-Road either so that is why we have choices.
All well & good I figure. Thanks for the reply. Never tried the HyRoad Pearl, but knew a fellow who had one and it was way to strong for him, he said. I do like my HyRoad though and it works quite well for me. My Carbon usually is 2nd out of the bag and has staying power into the late games of league. Ahh, a teenager in the house. :-\ Mine are all grown up and on their own. :) Best to you, HackJandy. Jim 8)
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>The Shock is not like the IQ Tour even though the numbers are similar. And you have to get it into a good roll to carry.
At least the Shock can carry on house shot. Just curious other than carry what are the differences?
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>The Shock is not like the IQ Tour even though the numbers are similar. And you have to get it into a good roll to carry.
At least the Shock can carry on house shot. Just curious other than carry what are the differences?
Yeah, I don't agree with that either - especially the last part. I owned 2 venom shocks when I was throwing 15 and they both were great. One drilled motion hole kept at 3000 or slight polish that was a killer on the house shot. The other was drilled for more arc and kept at 2000. It was great on sport shots. For me, this is one of the best balls I've ever thrown and I don't know why I have still not picked one up since moving to 14.
Also, while I've never owned an IQ Tour, I've seen a few people throw them. Even had one of those guys throw my Shock. He said the two were pretty similar. And they look similar to me.
Also, the comment about the Primal Rage also baffles me. Again, one of the best balls I've thrown. That, the Shock, and the Sting were my 3 favorite Motiv balls. The Jackal/Jackal LE were right behind, and I did have the LE in 14.
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>The Shock is not like the IQ Tour even though the numbers are similar. And you have to get it into a good roll to carry.
At least the Shock can carry on house shot. Just curious other than carry what are the differences?
Yeah, I don't agree with that either - especially the last part. I owned 2 venom shocks when I was throwing 15 and they both were great. One drilled motion hole kept at 3000 or slight polish that was a killer on the house shot. The other was drilled for more arc and kept at 2000. It was great on sport shots. For me, this is one of the best balls I've ever thrown and I don't know why I have still not picked one up since moving to 14.
Also, while I've never owned an IQ Tour, I've seen a few people throw them. Even had one of those guys throw my Shock. He said the two were pretty similar. And they look similar to me.
Also, the comment about the Primal Rage also baffles me. Again, one of the best balls I've thrown. That, the Shock, and the Sting were my 3 favorite Motiv balls. The Jackal/Jackal LE were right behind, and I did have the LE in 14.
Think some of it is me just plain rubbing people the wrong way. Still everyone matches up different with different balls I suppose. I could see certain styles matching up different with either the IQ Tour or Venom Shock especially if drilled different or with different top weight, pin length, etc. After all they do have different cover stocks and cores and numbers alone don't always describe a ball. We don't admit it but not only the feel but heck even the looks and smell of ball can affect how you feel about it. Certain balls just seem to give me more confidence. For example I absolutely adore the new Ogre Urethane I just picked up for spares and its already my favorite ball even though my Blue Hammer remake is probably a more versatile spare ball.
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Thanks for the explanation. Moral of the story no solid benchmark ball ever carries enough unless you are 6'6" with hand lol. Yep no magic balls for sure. Best series I have thrown this week was with my urethane Crow. Seriously thinking of using it for league as I am more consistent with it than any other ball even if my ceiling with it isn't as high.