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Title: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: HackJandy on October 23, 2017, 10:48:14 AM
Here is a rare #16 pink hammer.  As far as I know the hardest urethane ball ever made and pretty much the ultimate spare ball.  Already got me an Ogre (and thus why posted this to world+dog) but don't see this very often. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/192340088656?ul_noapp=true
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: djgook on October 23, 2017, 12:52:51 PM
What is Faball? I am a new bowler. Is it under the Hammer brand from in the hey day? Just wondering cause the balls you have listed says Faball in front instead of Hammer. Will you be bidding on this ball?
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: HackJandy on October 23, 2017, 01:11:15 PM
What is Faball? I am a new bowler. Is it under the Hammer brand from in the hey day? Just wondering cause the balls you have listed says Faball in front instead of Hammer. Will you be bidding on this ball?

No have 5 balls already in garage (and 15 in closet) and my Ogre Urethane is the modern equivalent to the pink hammer so not bidding.  That said if you can get a decent price this ball might even be a good investment though  (which I refuse to partake in, I drill everything I buy) as it is pretty rare and sought after (though being drilled before reduces value quite a bit).  Faball the company made hammers originally and generally the best old school urethane.  They mistakenly thought reactives were a fad and bought a factory at the worst time and end up basically going out of business and selling the Hammer name to Ebonite.  Visionary the bowling ball company is much closer in spirit and DNA to Faball than anything modern with the Hammer name imo.   Their factory in St. Louis in fact used to make Faball balls.  Visionary urethane is the best available today also IMO (and my driller's too).  That said this ball is harder urethane than any balls made before or since I believe.  This ball with polish will go straight on virtually any condition you will ever see.  Only some old rubber balls are harder.
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: Impending Doom on October 23, 2017, 01:54:02 PM
Faball made Hammer before Ebonite bought the name and started their line up. Anything before 2001 with a Hammer logo on it was made by Faball.
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: Matt C on November 10, 2017, 10:45:40 AM
There is a good bit more to the story, and it just wasn't buying a plant that did them in.  Hammer made plenty of Resin balls during the 90's some of which were quite good.
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: HackJandy on November 10, 2017, 12:19:30 PM
True.  Some of those Mo Pinel offsets are some of the best balls from that era.  Learn more and more as I go along.  Was in college at the time and honestly as poor as I was pretty sure I was still using polyester ball given to me while I was in high school and wasn't paying much attention to the industry then.
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: BigWillyStyle on November 10, 2017, 06:52:07 PM
That said this ball is harder urethane than any balls made before or since I believe.  This ball with polish will go straight on virtually any condition you will ever see.  Only some old rubber balls are harder.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought that the Glow Amulet was the hardest urethane ball that I've ever dealt with...plus possibly the coolest!
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: HackJandy on November 10, 2017, 07:53:37 PM
That said this ball is harder urethane than any balls made before or since I believe.  This ball with polish will go straight on virtually any condition you will ever see.  Only some old rubber balls are harder.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought that the Glow Amulet was the hardest urethane ball that I've ever dealt with...plus possibly the coolest!

It was very cool and very rare due to production problems.  It is right up there from what I understand and they list it a nearly the same cover stock as the Ogre Urethane which is the hardest since the Pink Hammer but not sure if its harder.  Wonders family made both so they would probably know.  Still thinks it is funny how much harder some of the rubber ball were even than the urethane.  Still kind of wish I had bid on that pink hammer now as hard urethane is cool as sh1t.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: tburky on November 11, 2017, 10:27:02 AM
True.  Some of those Mo Pinel offsets are some of the best balls from that era.  Learn more and more as I go along.  Was in college at the time and honestly as poor as I was pretty sure I was still using polyester ball given to me while I was in high school and wasn't paying much attention to the industry then.

Loved the 3d offset. I saw a guy use one in my traveling league. Still rolls sweet!
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: NHS on November 12, 2017, 07:30:55 AM
Don't forget the  short lived JPF company, which made the  urethane AXE.  Essentially the same blue and black cover of Faball, but  with a newly designed core.
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on August 09, 2018, 09:36:28 PM
16lb NIB Pink Hammer posting so I don't bid on it lol -
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pink-Faball-Hammer-Bowling-Ball-16lbs-Brand-New/362409265433?hash=item5461468919%3Ag%3AB8QAAOSwl39bavBC&_sacat=0&_nkw=faball+hammer&_from=R40&rt=nc&LH_TitleDesc=0#shpCntId

This urethane ball will hook as much as almost any modern urethane.  Hooks so much especially on the back end for a urethane sometimes if not careful leaves washouts which even some my weaker reactives rarely do.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1st-Drill-16-Fab-Faball-Urethane-Razor-Hammer/142777478494?hash=item213e336d5e%3Ag%3Ax2sAAOSw3jBas88k&_sacat=0&_nkw=faball+hammer&_from=R40&rt=nc&LH_TitleDesc=0
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: tommygn on August 10, 2018, 08:24:08 AM
That said this ball is harder urethane than any balls made before or since I believe.  This ball with polish will go straight on virtually any condition you will ever see.  Only some old rubber balls are harder.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought that the Glow Amulet was the hardest urethane ball that I've ever dealt with...plus possibly the coolest!

Grey Angle was another ball that was very hard, but often forgotten.
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on August 10, 2018, 11:01:07 AM
That said this ball is harder urethane than any balls made before or since I believe.  This ball with polish will go straight on virtually any condition you will ever see.  Only some old rubber balls are harder.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought that the Glow Amulet was the hardest urethane ball that I've ever dealt with...plus possibly the coolest!

Grey Angle was another ball that was very hard, but often forgotten.

Yeah that one might actually make a better spare ball due to having a pancake core (much easier to find as well).  Have my Ogre Urethane so have that spot covered but darn if pinkie isn't a pretty ball.
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: DP3 on August 10, 2018, 01:45:51 PM
I have a 15lb Black 3D Offset Tour, 2nd drill near the same spot. I might just fully plug it and list it on ebay for $25,000 O.B.O. ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on August 10, 2018, 06:00:31 PM
I would laugh but that pink hammer is at $82 + 50 shipping with nearly 3 days of bidding left (guessing it goes for close to $200 total).  Collectors are a mixed blessing.  Without them there would be hardly any NIB stuff but guarantee at least one of the bidders on that ball is a collector who wants it down in his man cave (trust me bought from the type before).  Collectors are probably why I spent close to $200 with shipping for my NIB Purple Sumo but wish I could see their expressions of horror as I had holes put in it and actually use it for what it was meant for (sure doesn't roll like any other polyester ball I have seen, love that piece).  I put holes in everything but a Hy-Road spare and a handful of Visionary balls hanging onto for now (with them going tits up soon stocking up now).  I am not a collector at least in my mind lol.  I just like throwing gems as an old GTO convertible can be as enjoyable to drive as the latest Porsche or whatever.
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Post by: squirrelywrath1 on August 11, 2018, 07:02:29 AM
Pink Hammer is nice, but why no love for the Faball Nail?

I like the Nail, I always felt it was merely Pink Hammers boyfriend.  Same core and nearly as hard coverstock.

There's a dude in Hawaii that has been selling a bunch of Nails for years, and sometimes runs a sale on his blems.
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on August 11, 2018, 11:37:43 AM
Pink Hammer is nice, but why no love for the Faball Nail?

I like the Nail, I always felt it was merely Pink Hammers boyfriend.  Same core and nearly as hard coverstock.

There's a dude in Hawaii that has been selling a bunch of Nails for years, and sometimes runs a sale on his blems.

Yeah the Nail is a neat ball too for sure.  Generally those aren't cheap either NIB but much easier to find than Pink Hammers (reason don't point those out).  Its also not as pretty even if as effective.  My Ogre urethane is better than either imo (favorite ball) for all but nostalgia reasons. Have too many spare balls as it is but if was going to go old school on a spare ball might get one of those old rubber balls with a 90+ reading on the durometer.  Can find those cheap on ebay as well lol.
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on August 13, 2018, 08:19:23 PM
Yep pink went for over $200 before shipping. 16lber too.  Probably a collector.
Title: Re: Interesting Faball listings on internet.
Post by: stormed1 on August 13, 2018, 08:41:05 PM
Back in the day I had 4 pink hammers with different layouts for wood vs synthetics. I picked the first 2 up off the PBA truck in Milwaukee because they weren't available from the distributers yet. Shot 299 out of te box (stone 8) bowling a guy or $100.00 because he laughed at me for throwing a pink ball. I ended up making a few thousand dollars in pots and King of the hills with those balls. Only rason I got rid of them was I dropped to 15#