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General Category => PBA => Topic started by: charlest on November 02, 2017, 01:39:06 PM
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What did you think?
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I watched some of it. Breaks between matches seemed long. Rhino looked pretty locked in
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Dont have CBSSN anymore on my TV package so i couldnt watch. O well ill wait for youtube.
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It appeared the ball peeled off one gutter but not the other....
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I watched it as soon as Houston went up 5-0 in the 2nd.
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It appeared the ball peeled off one gutter but not the other....
True.
I wonder if that was because of what the lefties did during warmups. Since 2 of the higher rev lefties used urethane, maybe they tried to wear down the outside oil more than the older veterans on the right side did, in order to get a stronger reaction? Just a guess.
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The track is several boards closer to the gutter on the left side of the lane than the right generally. My time put in as a lefty taught me that it was much better to miss outside than inside. If you watch, yeah, they had the gutter, but man if they tugged it a hair, it was gone. The track on the right side of the lane in my opinion is easier to play because it's a more comfortable amount away from the gutter. Lefties have to flirt with a lot more danger in my opinion. Generally the reaction is better on the left side if you make a good shot, but the window is much more narrow. If a lefty has success, I just congratulate them and move on because more often than not, they're screwed and the righties have the world.
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The track is several boards closer to the gutter on the left side of the lane than the right generally. My time put in as a lefty taught me that it was much better to miss outside than inside. If you watch, yeah, they had the gutter, but man if they tugged it a hair, it was gone. The track on the right side of the lane in my opinion is easier to play because it's a more comfortable amount away from the gutter. Lefties have to flirt with a lot more danger in my opinion. Generally the reaction is better on the left side if you make a good shot, but the window is much more narrow. If a lefty has success, I just congratulate them and move on because more often than not, they're screwed and the righties have the world.
But didn't it seem, last night, that Jacob and Rhino had more area than Wes and Duke on the right side?
Aside, not sure what ball Wes was using, assuming it was a pearl or polished hybrid, but the pin position
(well above the ring ringer; I have no idea of his PAP but if it is anywhere near average, this seemed to be ... not right for the condition in this finals. Maybe it was perfect for the transition during qualifying and match play??)
seemed too flippy for the line he was trying to play. It seemed as if it reduced the area he had to play with on the right side.
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The graph of the pattern they showed did not look symmetrical to me.
You can now crucify me.
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The graph of the pattern they showed did not look symmetrical to me.
You can now crucify me.
You are correct PB. It was asymmetrical with less oil on the left side.
https://www.11thframe.com/news/article/9755/2017-US-Open-lane-pattern-asymmetrical-but-not-as-radical-as-2016
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I understand the problem with the left side not being able to breakdown a tough shot pattern because of fewer players.
But at that level, both sides can throw it good, if you give one side and extra 1/2 board of room someone on that side will dominate.
Until they figure out a way to take lane conditioner out of play then the inequity will continue to exist both ways.
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The graph of the pattern they showed did not look symmetrical to me.
You can now crucify me.
You are correct PB. It was asymmetrical with less oil on the left side.
https://www.11thframe.com/news/article/9755/2017-US-Open-lane-pattern-asymmetrical-but-not-as-radical-as-2016
This definitely explains and confirms why Belmo was throwing backup balls during the tournament. And seeing that this is the second year they've used this pattern, this may become a trend.
BL.
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The graph of the pattern they showed did not look symmetrical to me.
You can now crucify me.
You are correct PB. It was asymmetrical with less oil on the left side.
https://www.11thframe.com/news/article/9755/2017-US-Open-lane-pattern-asymmetrical-but-not-as-radical-as-2016
This definitely explains and confirms why Belmo was throwing backup balls during the tournament. And seeing that this is the second year they've used this pattern, this may become a trend.
BL.
Being middle age is there is no way in *** I am ever going to learn how to throw a back up ball 2 handed so my US Open dream is done I suppose.
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I watched it.
Not impressed.
Not entertained.
All I will say is, whenever someone who is bowling a tournament, encounters conditions during that tournament that seem best attacked by throwing a backup ball on the opposite side of the lane than usual, or lofting the ball 20ft over the guttercaps, I consider that tournament more of a freakish sideshow than I do a serious competition.
Congratulations to the winner.
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I watched it.
Not impressed.
Not entertained.
All I will say is, whenever someone who is bowling a tournament, encounters conditions during that tournament that seem best attacked by throwing a backup ball on the opposite side of the lane than usual, or lofting the ball 20ft over the guttercaps, I consider that tournament more of a freakish sideshow than I do a serious competition.
Congratulations to the winner.
The US Open has become the worldest longest trick shot competition.
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I watched the step ladder finals on you tube last night. More entertaining than the previous days competitions. Congrats to Rhino Page, he was right on the money on every shot. Then they handed them the big check for $30k. $30 freaking K?????? That's it??????????
WTF moment
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I watched the step ladder finals on you tube last night. More entertaining than the previous days competitions. Congrats to Rhino Page, he was right on the money on every shot. Then they handed them the big check for $30k. $30 freaking K?????? That's it??????????
WTF moment
Its why they are really more bowling ball salesmen (and other gear) than professional bowlers.
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i watched it last night on youtube. i felt like both norm and wes were making the same mistakes. Norm i felt like needed more surface or a stronger cover. that haywire just didnt seem strong enough. i could see the sheen on the cover before he even started. a more aggressive cover or stronger ball couldve provided a more stability throughout the lane and better carry.
Mean while i was SMH the whole time i watched Wes. that ball was clearly too over/under caused by bad surface prep. I wouldve looked for him to use either a no rules exist, DDT or at least a NRP with the polish off. it also looked to me that he was not releasing it cleanly which just exacerbated the problem
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After fighting and grinding out the week for a $30k first place check seemed pretty anti-climactic to me. It seems like the pros these days are bowling more for the win and trophy than money...if they wanted better pay I think they would've quit the tour and used that college degree to get a nice 9-5 job someplace. Makes me wonder what the prize fund for the 2020 US Open will be, $10,000 for 1st? A future for the sport....hmm
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Either way I would still take $30,000 for a weeks worth of work. Sure it is still way above my hourly rate at work. But I get what you are saying. LOL!
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Either way I would still take $30,000 for a weeks worth of work. Sure it is still way above my hourly rate at work. But I get what you are saying. LOL!
Quickest way to ruin bowling for me would probably be to make it a job.