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Equipment Boards => 900 Global => Topic started by: Impending Doom on December 14, 2017, 10:45:05 AM

Title: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: Impending Doom on December 14, 2017, 10:45:05 AM
Ok, dct pearl is obvious.

Shadow Ops? Stronger cover? I mean there's already the Covert, Black and Desert? Is it S75?? Soaker??? PLEASE???

I'm a complete fanboy over the Break core. No denying it.
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: LyalC52 on December 14, 2017, 11:29:35 AM

I'm a complete fanboy over the Break core. No denying it.

I'm in that club too
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: HackJandy on December 14, 2017, 12:01:49 PM
Finally got me an almost new Honey Badger.  Now have a ball from nearly every major  product family now.  Looking forward to rolling another 2 piece.  They just hit better for me.
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: stormed1 on December 14, 2017, 12:49:54 PM
Inception DCT Pearl


COLOR: Green/Purple/Cream
COVERSTOCK: S86Râ„¢ Pearl
CORE: Adaptor/D Ceramicâ„¢
FINISH: 1500 Grit Polished
LANE CONDITION: Medium Oil
REACTION: Long Angular Backend
WEIGHTS: 12-16 lbs.


Shadow Ops


World Wide Release Date: 1/23/18


COLOR: Black/Silver
COVERSTOCK: S25â„¢ Hybrid Urethane
CORE: Breakâ„¢ Asymmetric
FINISH: 1000 Abralon
LANE CONDITION: Medium Oil
REACTION: Slight Mid-Lane Read w/ Smooth Aggressive Finish
WEIGHTS: 12-16 lbs.
 

Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: Impending Doom on December 14, 2017, 12:56:58 PM
Urethane??? DONE! IN THE BAG YOU BOTH GO!!!
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: 2handedrook12 on December 14, 2017, 04:51:04 PM
Another her asymmetric urethane? Hmm
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: stormed1 on December 14, 2017, 05:21:36 PM
looks like it's going to be expensive when i get to go back to bowling after getting fitted for a prosthetic leg. All these great new pieces to buy
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: Impending Doom on December 14, 2017, 06:09:22 PM
You wanna know how my bag is gonna look come Feb??

DCT pearl
Freight Train (yes, I have a NIB)
Dream On
Covert Ops
Honey Badger
X
Night Hawk SE
Shadow Ops
Boo-yah
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: Johnny31874 on December 17, 2017, 12:15:13 AM


Shadow Ops


World Wide Release Date: 1/23/18


COLOR: Black/Silver
COVERSTOCK: S25â„¢ Hybrid Urethane
CORE: Breakâ„¢ Asymmetric
FINISH: 1000 Abralon
LANE CONDITION: Medium Oil
REACTION: Slight Mid-Lane Read w/ Smooth Aggressive Finish
WEIGHTS: 12-16 lbs.

Don't tease me
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: Impending Doom on December 17, 2017, 08:49:08 AM


Shadow Ops


World Wide Release Date: 1/23/18


COLOR: Black/Silver
COVERSTOCK: S25â„¢ Hybrid Urethane
CORE: Breakâ„¢ Asymmetric
FINISH: 1000 Abralon
LANE CONDITION: Medium Oil
REACTION: Slight Mid-Lane Read w/ Smooth Aggressive Finish
WEIGHTS: 12-16 lbs.

Don't tease me

No tease, my man. It's happening.
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 17, 2017, 01:41:11 PM
You wanna know how my bag is gonna look come Feb??

DCT pearl
Freight Train (yes, I have a NIB)
Dream On
Covert Ops
Honey Badger
X
Night Hawk SE
Shadow Ops
Boo-yah

No Black Ops?
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: Impending Doom on December 17, 2017, 02:11:45 PM
I have a Black Ops, and it's ok, but I got one with a 4 inch pin, cg shifted 2 inches left, and 5oz of top. Could only do one layout on it, and it's not my preferred layout. I don't like pin up layout with that ball.
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: charlest on December 17, 2017, 06:56:10 PM
I wonder what the "Hybrid urethane" is:
half pearl urethane and half solid urethane (Think Storm SuperNatural),
OR
half urethane and half resin (Think new/current Hammer Blue Hammer)?
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: SVstar34 on December 17, 2017, 07:08:10 PM
I wonder what the "Hybrid urethane" is:
half pearl urethane and half solid urethane (Think Storm SuperNatural),
OR
half urethane and half resin (Think new/current Hammer Blue Hammer)?

The silver definitely has a pearl appearance in the picture on the approved list
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: SJimEagle on December 19, 2017, 09:04:41 AM
In The Bag!!

Black Ops (Polished)
Covert Ops
Inception Solid (Polished)
Honey Badger (What a monster can play 4th arrow on Open pattern with it)
Brunswick T-Zone (Bridge is cracking new a Global Spare bowl soon)
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: charlest on December 19, 2017, 04:00:48 PM
I wonder what the "Hybrid urethane" is:
half pearl urethane and half solid urethane (Think Storm SuperNatural),
OR
half urethane and half resin (Think new/current Hammer Blue Hammer)?


The 900G web site now tells the story:
80% urethane, 20% resin.
From the appearance of the picture on the web site, it seems like the urethane is a pearl urethane, but that could be just the looks of it.
In any case, it is ROUGH, 1000 grit.
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: Impending Doom on December 19, 2017, 04:22:34 PM
Same surface prep as the Booyah with S20. Fits it well. My Booyah actually backends a bit and it surprised me
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: Bowl_Freak on December 19, 2017, 04:34:20 PM
So now we have the Shadow Ops, 80/20 urethane/resin and the Combat LE which is 50/50 pearl/solid urethane. Will there be much difference in the reactions? I know one is sym and other is asym.
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: Impending Doom on December 19, 2017, 05:01:11 PM
Break weightblock vs the Ascent weightblock, totally different. I'm seeing this as close to the widow urethane than being weaker than the Rampage.
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: earlyrolling on December 20, 2017, 01:31:34 AM
For the Shadow Ops, which color is urethane and which color is reactive?
Is it the silver that is the urethane and the black is reactive resin?
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: charlest on December 20, 2017, 05:07:50 AM
For the Shadow Ops, which color is urethane and which color is reactive?
Is it the silver that is the urethane and the black is reactive resin?

I can only guess by looking at the picture on the web site.
Since most of the picture seems to be the silver, pearl-looking part and since their words say it is 80% urethane, I have to conclude that the silver is the urethane.
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: spmcgivern on December 20, 2017, 01:15:34 PM
I feel it is unrealistic to produce a "hybrid" bowling ball with the colors representing the quoted materials.  This would require a precise pour in order to provide a consistent reaction. 

Imagine the Storm Frantic
(https://www.ballreviews.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg0096.psstatic.com%2F123195606_storm-frantic-bowling-ball-16-lbs-ebay.jpg&hash=5a7b77400b404dd15d8b62a66bdc8004c2d831f0)

It would appear to be impossible to have actually different materials representing the two colors and have a consistent reaction ball-to-ball.

My understanding is what we perceive as pearl in a ball is an additive that affects appearance only.  The entire coverstock is the same material blended however is needed to achieve the reaction.  It may be 80/20 urethane to resin, but each color has this same mixture.
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: Bowlaholic on December 20, 2017, 06:10:32 PM
How do you know what you stated?  Do you work for Storm or other ball manufactures?
It's not that I don't believe you, but what information do you have to prove your statement? 
Title: Re: Shadow Ops and DCT pearl
Post by: SVstar34 on December 20, 2017, 06:30:30 PM
How do you know what you stated?  Do you work for Storm or other ball manufactures?
It's not that I don't believe you, but what information do you have to prove your statement? 

Phil Cardinals has said in videos that it's all about the additives used. Same reason for why not all pearls are long and flippy or all solids are early