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Title: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: daves123 on December 17, 2017, 09:23:23 AM
If you could use only one ball what would it be?
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: HackJandy on December 17, 2017, 12:34:45 PM
If you mean 1 actual ball and no spare ball probably my Visionary The Crow urethane (can use as a spare ball and on THS) but if allowed a spare ball probably my Burgundy Hammer remake as its viable on virtually any condition even if ideal on few.  If you mean you can have 1 type of ball but multiple balls I would say either The Fix or perhaps an IQ Tour as you have a lot of versatility with drilling and surface.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 17, 2017, 01:02:40 PM
Hy-Road Pearl
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Post by: leftybowler70 on December 17, 2017, 01:26:15 PM
What a tough question, I’m gonna pull my hair out with this one.  ::)
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: leftybowler70 on December 17, 2017, 01:28:41 PM
Roto Grip Rumble
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Post by: Impending Doom on December 17, 2017, 01:34:27 PM
Night Hawk SE.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: giddyupddp on December 17, 2017, 02:04:23 PM
Ball I love but doesn't make the bag for league nights as it does many things well but not one great in my opinion on THS.

IQ Tour, most versatile ball I have ever used and takes surface changes great making it useful on wide variety of patterns.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: daves123 on December 17, 2017, 03:11:45 PM
If you mean 1 actual ball and no spare ball probably my Visionary The Crow urethane (can use as a spare ball and on THS) but if allowed a spare ball probably my Burgundy Hammer remake as its viable on virtually any condition even if ideal on few.  If you mean you can have 1 type of ball but multiple balls I would say either The Fix or perhaps an IQ Tour as you have a lot of versatility with drilling and surface.
one ball only for all conditions and all surfaces
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: Tom on December 17, 2017, 03:43:43 PM
Ebonite Cyclone 2000 polished. Roll a few frames warming up, and scuff if necessary.
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Post by: Walking E on December 17, 2017, 04:01:38 PM
I'd select my pin-up Visionary Raven. It's proven to be the most versatile ball in my bag.
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Post by: CoorZero on December 17, 2017, 04:40:12 PM
Hustle INK most likely.
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Post by: LookingForALeftyWall on December 17, 2017, 08:46:21 PM
IQ Tour Solid...guaranteed to get at least 9 on the widest range of conditions  :P :P :P
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: daves123 on December 17, 2017, 10:06:10 PM
Well I appreciate all who have gave an opinion. It seems like the iq tour solid came up quite a bit.
I'm not near the caliber bowler as most of you so I do value your feedback.
The reason I asked the question is because I have a ball that just works for me on everything, everywhere I bowl. I too have a iq tour and it worked pretty good but after about 50 games or so it started to leave single pins plus I couldn't shoot spares real accurately. I've got back into bowling after a 6 yr. Lay off about a year ago and I think I have a problem I'M A BALL JUNKIE ok I said it now maybe I can get better. In less than 1 year I've drilled up 8 new balls. My problem is I have 1 ball that works great but I'm  bored throwing the same ball even though it scores. All the others score but not as consistently. Guess I'll just keep buying new balls until I find one that can beat it.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: HackJandy on December 17, 2017, 10:10:48 PM
>In less than 1 year I've drilled up 8 new balls

About what I have done since fall season started so have company.  Also have company with the IQ Tour leaving 9 on THS.  Tried the Hy-Road yet?  That ball or the Venom Shock may become your new go to ball.  If have a decent size arsenal bury your pride and buy a cheap pancake plastic ball (can get a Pyramid Path for like $40 shipped and really impressed with quality so far) or urethane for spares.  Can't recommend that enough.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: daves123 on December 17, 2017, 10:49:34 PM
>In less than 1 year I've drilled up 8 new balls

About what I have done since fall season started so have company.  Also have company with the IQ Tour leaving 9 on THS.  Tried the Hy-Road yet?  That ball or the Venom Shock may become your new go to ball.  If have a decent size arsenal bury your pride and buy a cheap pancake plastic ball (can get a Pyramid Path for like $40 shipped and really impressed with quality so far) or urethane for spares.  Can't recommend that enough.
as far as  a spare ball that's the only ball I have that's from the year 2000 arsenal it's a blue dot. I think that's pretty good for shooting spares. I've never owned a motiv ball but I here a lot of good things about the venom shock but the hy road is so ledgondary I don't know which one to try first.
Of the two which one first?
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: SVstar34 on December 17, 2017, 11:19:14 PM
1 ball? I'd probably lean towards the Track Kinetic Ruby
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: MI 2 AZ on December 17, 2017, 11:24:09 PM
LH, I would go with The Crow.  Not many to choose from LH and some I haven't used much yet.

RH, definitely my old Blue Warlock.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: daves123 on December 18, 2017, 07:39:42 AM
LH, I would go with The Crow.  Not many to choose from LH and some I haven't used much yet.

RH, definitely my old Blue Warlock.
I am a southpaw but I've never chose a ball based on my being lefthanded. The crow interests me because I don't have any urethane equipment yet. I've read on this thread many who think it's a great ball as well.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: milorafferty on December 18, 2017, 08:00:17 AM
Nope, I bowl in 2017. There is no need to limit myself to one ball.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: daves123 on December 18, 2017, 08:19:54 AM
Nope, I bowl in 2017. There is no need to limit myself to one ball.
  I'm not about to limit myself to one ball. I have one ball that just works better than the others. As far as bowling in 2017, I'm not that fortunate. The house I bowl in was built in 1950 and has A1 equipment and has a lane machine that works sometimes.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: Impending Doom on December 18, 2017, 08:31:57 AM
Nope, I bowl in 2017. There is no need to limit myself to one ball.

You, sir, are a buzz kill.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: milorafferty on December 18, 2017, 09:27:29 AM
Nope, I bowl in 2017. There is no need to limit myself to one ball.

You, sir, are a buzz kill.

That's what I'm here for...   ;D


Well, that and the doughnuts. Now where the hell are the doughnuts this morning??
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: HackJandy on December 18, 2017, 10:01:48 AM
>In less than 1 year I've drilled up 8 new balls

About what I have done since fall season started so have company.  Also have company with the IQ Tour leaving 9 on THS.  Tried the Hy-Road yet?  That ball or the Venom Shock may become your new go to ball.  If have a decent size arsenal bury your pride and buy a cheap pancake plastic ball (can get a Pyramid Path for like $40 shipped and really impressed with quality so far) or urethane for spares.  Can't recommend that enough.
as far as  a spare ball that's the only ball I have that's from the year 2000 arsenal it's a blue dot. I think that's pretty good for shooting spares. I've never owned a motiv ball but I here a lot of good things about the venom shock but the hy road is so ledgondary I don't know which one to try first.
Of the two which one first?

I would go with the Hy-Road first as it can handle a bit more oil imo and it hits so damn hard.  Hard to go wrong with either.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: HackJandy on December 18, 2017, 10:05:38 AM
LH, I would go with The Crow.  Not many to choose from LH and some I haven't used much yet.

RH, definitely my old Blue Warlock.
I am a southpaw but I've never chose a ball based on my being lefthanded. The crow interests me because I don't have any urethane equipment yet. I've read on this thread many who think it's a great ball as well.

Visionary just does urethane so well (in their DNA) and The Crow is so smooth.  Its now not the strongest urethane on the market but its probably the smoothest strong urethane.  Even low rev guys like me can use it on THS.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: MI 2 AZ on December 18, 2017, 12:09:07 PM
LH, I would go with The Crow.  Not many to choose from LH and some I haven't used much yet.

RH, definitely my old Blue Warlock.
I am a southpaw but I've never chose a ball based on my being lefthanded. The crow interests me because I don't have any urethane equipment yet. I've read on this thread many who think it's a great ball as well.
.

I can only choose between balls that I have used either LH or RH and only with that side unless I use one for each.  I had to start bowling LH for past two years due to right shoulder injury.  I am not a high average bowler either side so take that into consideration, but from my experiences, those are my choices. 

I like the Crow for LH because it helped minimize my errors in arm swing or release.  I like the Blue Warlock because in the past 20 yrs it has been a good benchmark ball and I can take it out to the lanes anytime and find a line with it or know if something else will work better either up or down.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: sneaky PETE on December 18, 2017, 06:52:14 PM
i have the same problem with buying bowling balls. if i hadn't sold some i would have
probably around 13 balls
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Post by: tkkshop on December 18, 2017, 08:02:15 PM
i have the same problem with buying bowling balls. if i hadn't sold some i would have
probably around 13 balls
I have 34 drilled balls at the moment... :o
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: leftybowler70 on December 18, 2017, 09:07:13 PM
I had 22, but just gave 2 away.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: avabob on December 18, 2017, 09:11:54 PM
Depends if I am bowling on league conditions or have to otroare for s broader range.  League on house shots, and the answer is easy.  Any strong asymetric that you like.  For a broader range of patterns,  there is no easy answer. 




Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: HackJandy on December 18, 2017, 09:17:48 PM
About 25 myself.  Finally reached the point I feel full.  If I added any more would probably get rid of some of the old urethane I have gathering dust for most part.  Can throw only so many balls in a month even for fun.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: JazlarVonSteich on December 19, 2017, 09:36:14 AM
I'd have to choose Hy-road Nano (ball is so good for my game) or the Hot Cell.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: badbeard on December 19, 2017, 10:09:05 AM
I would use the Blunt Force by Pyramid sold by bowling ball .com It is a hybrid cover with a strong core. Keeps the pins low and the cover adjustment are easy by hand. Just adjust the cover the lane conditions. Hybrid covers are easy through the fronts and strong on the dry the best of both worlds.     
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: Brandon Riley on December 19, 2017, 06:34:00 PM
Pin up Edge Solid.  Usable on anything
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Post by: DP3 on December 19, 2017, 10:22:48 PM
Our shot is pretty tough this year. We get a head shot run on top of what's leftover from the day of open play & early leagues. I'm throwing 3 different drilled Gamebreaker 2's. A pin up no hole, Pin down w/ hole, and a pin in palm shiny one. I really haven't seen a time when any other reaction would have been useful. It's just been my poor shot making all year.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: Mako on December 20, 2017, 08:39:56 AM
I am shocked the HyRoad isn’t the answer that has dominated this thread.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: daves123 on December 20, 2017, 08:47:01 AM
I am shocked the HyRoad isn’t the answer that has dominated this thread.
looks like the Hy-Road will be my next ball.better late than never. I'll see if it replaces my magic ball.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: LookingForALeftyWall on December 20, 2017, 09:56:01 AM
I am shocked the HyRoad isn’t the answer that has dominated this thread.

HyRoad is not enough ball or versatile enough for a 1 ball arsenal for those of us at the lower end of the power/RPM spectrum.  For medium volume house shots?  Maybe.  But throwing in higher volume sport shots - nope, not even close.

And I am not saying this flippantly.  I have a HyRoad.  It sits and it waits for when it is needed - which is not often...
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: HackJandy on December 20, 2017, 10:11:49 AM
I am shocked the HyRoad isn’t the answer that has dominated this thread.

HyRoad is not enough ball or versatile enough for a 1 ball arsenal for those of us at the lower end of the power/RPM spectrum.  For medium volume house shots?  Maybe.  But throwing in higher volume sport shots - nope, not even close.

And I am not saying this flippantly.  I have a HyRoad.  It sits and it waits for when it is needed - which is not often...

Yeah I don't think his ultimate aim was a single ball arsenal in the end.  If you drill the Hy-Road aggressive its fine on THS especially after the first game at least for me and I am probably lower rev than you are (though of course right side dries out a lot quicker of course).  Agree its not a sport shot ball.  It can handle heavier volumes with surface imo than the Venom Shock.  Honestly would recommend both balls without hesitation though.   
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: HackJandy on December 20, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
Honestly right now I wouldn't recommend buying any balls until we see what madness the USBC comes up with.  Technically the Hy-Road is over their proposed .45 diff limit so might possibly be banned in five years even.  What a mess.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: Impending Doom on December 20, 2017, 10:35:57 AM
This is similar to the whole rule change from a couple of years ago, going from 0.080 to 0.060. Everything made before that was grandfathered in. So if you want to still use your SD-73, go ahead. They will not ban older balls. They just won't. If they do, they only have themselves to blame for the death of their organization.
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Post by: leftybowler70 on December 20, 2017, 12:19:38 PM
Good stuff Hack and Doom ^^
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: HackJandy on December 20, 2017, 01:43:10 PM
Hopefully Doom is right.  Still I won't be buying any balls for awhile regardless (fool me once and all that) but then again I have plenty already anyway.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: Impending Doom on December 20, 2017, 01:51:36 PM
Not saying they won't do it, but it would be the stupidest thing I've ever seen if they BAN something people have already bought. You think your budget is tight now, USBC? Don't allow anything over .040 anywhere and find out where your money comes from. #bitethehandthatfeeds
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: milorafferty on December 20, 2017, 02:52:08 PM
Not saying they won't do it, but it would be the stupidest thing I've ever seen if they BAN something people have already bought. You think your budget is tight now, USBC? Don't allow anything over .040 anywhere and find out where your money comes from. #bitethehandthatfeeds

Can you say "Class Action" lawsuit? Chad Murphy will pay with his ass if he wants to get this stupid.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: BossTull on December 21, 2017, 06:56:58 AM
I still have an older ball in my bag "The New Standard" that I used as a 1 ball arsenal when I got back into bowling. It is playable on almost any condition.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: Jesse James on December 21, 2017, 01:32:44 PM
I guess I'm one of the few people not overly impressed with the Hy-Road. I know it fits a lot people's games, but the one I threw.....I immediately wanted to change the surface.

If I were planning a one ball arsenal, the ball I'd be using would be a Gamebreaker.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 21, 2017, 02:41:57 PM
I guess I'm one of the few people not overly impressed with the Hy-Road. I know it fits a lot people's games, but the one I threw.....I immediately wanted to change the surface.

If I were planning a one ball arsenal, the ball I'd be using would be a Gamebreaker.

What about the ball motion made you want to change the surface?
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: Jesse James on December 21, 2017, 04:38:32 PM
I guess I'm one of the few people not overly impressed with the Hy-Road. I know it fits a lot people's games, but the one I threw.....I immediately wanted to change the surface.

If I were planning a one ball arsenal, the ball I'd be using would be a Gamebreaker.

What about the ball motion made you want to change the surface?

On the condition that I threw it on, it skidded further than I would have liked, and got into the roll phase later than I liked. I guess it's just a matter of preference.

My teammate in another league uses his, regularly and scores well with it. He is a medium speed stroker.
Title: Re: 1 ball arsenal?
Post by: HackJandy on December 21, 2017, 08:07:20 PM
I guess I'm one of the few people not overly impressed with the Hy-Road. I know it fits a lot people's games, but the one I threw.....I immediately wanted to change the surface.

If I were planning a one ball arsenal, the ball I'd be using would be a Gamebreaker.

What about the ball motion made you want to change the surface?

On the condition that I threw it on, it skidded further than I would have liked, and got into the roll phase later than I liked. I guess it's just a matter of preference.

My teammate in another league uses his, regularly and scores well with it. He is a medium speed stroker.

Mine did that too until I re drilled it with a double thumb (65x4"x30 is my friend).  Wouldn't surprise me if next the USBC takes away motion holes as they really hate low revers.