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Title: Colossus Supreme
Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM

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Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: Precision on August 28, 2002, 01:26:09 PM
How can a ball that hooks so much get down the lane this easy? That's the question you'll ask after rolling the Supreme down the lane. The Supreme hooks a ton and gets down the lane with an easy to read, smooth and continuous ball motion.

I've drilled 2 of these balls, one with a 4 1/2" pin to PAP distance with the RC placed in the arc position and another the other with a 6" pin to PAP distance and the RC placed in a strong position. Both balls were used on HPL synthetics with a house pattern about 32 feet in length, heavier units 10 to 10 in the heads tapering downlane and about 25 units at the foul line tapering to 4 units at the end of the pattern on boards 1 thru 10. The 4 1/2" ball read the midlane well and gave me a smooth continuous arc while giving no indication of quitting. The 6" ball gave me greater length with a sharper but not violent turn towards the pocket. Both balls were used with the box finish.

The core/cover combination of the Supreme is superb. I've played around with different surfaces and found that the initial ball motion remained while allowing the balls to read the lanes either earlier or later depending on the surface used.
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: onepest on September 25, 2002, 11:39:50 AM
this ball is great...thats all there is to it. i have the black colussus with heavy polish on it and just purchased the supreme...this ball definitely outhooks the black one, but it is really controllable...rolls awesome just like all the morich stuff and impressive is that for a dull ball, it never rolls out. i haven't decided if i will put a little shine on or not, usually the lanes i play on have lots of oil, which is rare these days, so'ill try it out for awhile..and as far as hitting power, nothing hits as hard as a morich ball...the only way to leave a ten pin is if the messenger flies over the top of the ten pin..i have two buzzsaws and the morich stuff hits harder than the diamond core stuff anyday and on any condition
mo and rich, keep making good stuff and hopefully go back to being registered w/ the pba!
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: Glen Hershberger on October 14, 2002, 05:09:46 PM
This is in reply to odddood.
Not every ball is for everyone. This must be the case with this ball for you.
This is my BIG HOOKER.I have only had it for a couple of weeks and have had only one series under 700 in the seven outings that i have used this ball.
All i use is MoRich stuff right now and have had great success with them.

3 3/8 Pin
2 3/4 RC
Over 5 7/16  Up 7/16

Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: onepest on October 15, 2002, 02:59:51 PM
i don't get how one can't get this ball to hook??? i think its drilled unbelievably incorrect if it doesn't hook that much. i have mine really polished and it hooks a ton, more than the black one. and these balls outhit anything on the market....they roll fantastic, especially if you can put some hand in it, they don't over under like a lot of other balls
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: toddskeebo on October 18, 2002, 12:52:15 AM
I've tried almost every so called top performance ball out for the last 3 years and yes this ball will hook but it will also roll straight with your wrist bent back.Ive been ave. around 166 to 185 and when I purchased this ball and on the sixth game I roled my first 300.This ball is very controlable and can be wicked.Relax your arm,thumb at 2:00 pos,slight lift and watch it hit the pocket and clear the deck.
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: bowler guy on December 27, 2002, 06:17:46 PM
I just got my Colossus Supreme and couldn't wait to try it out. I have the original Collossus but wanted a little more overall hook for fresher lanes. And hook it does!

The Supreme is at least 15 boards stronger than the original for me. I could play right up the puddle in the middle and the Supreme would go easily down the lane and then make nice turn left. It is a very hard turn, but not one I would classify as a skid/flip reaction. Its move left is very smooth and predictable even though I have the ball drilled stacked. The Supreme also showed no signs of roll out for me (nice considering how deep I was playing)

I found the extreme entry angle and hard roll caused tremendous pin action that carried off hits really well. It also seemed to trip out the corners really well. I was also pleased that I could alter my release a little and I could still get the ball long enough to cover the ten pin (dont plan on leaving many though!)

In my short time with the Supreme so far I have found it to be every thing Mo says it is and more! Heed the warning about the ball hooking to much, I think this ball would be way too much on drier shots. If you are rev challenged bowler who is struggling on the wetter shots, this is your ball!!!

Specs.
Ball
15lbs drilled stacked leverage 3 3/8 with balance hole 1" past VAL on ML, Box finish

Bowler
PAP 5.25 over .25 up, 18mph, approx 350 revs

Lanes
Wood, 40 units tapering to ?, 37 feet buff to 41, fresh oil
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: Chris_P on January 10, 2003, 01:05:49 AM
My brother in law just got this ball and as our hands are almost the same size I decided to give it a test drive...

On Oil, this ball handles it easily and makes a strong move towards the pocket.  On Medium lanes this ball gave a predicatable and continuous hook with no sign of roll out.  How this is possible I don't know.

For my brother in law this ball has been great, and he shot his first 600 series the week after buying it, in fact he shot two.  Great ball.  

Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: nd300 on January 11, 2003, 02:09:20 PM
Got this ball on the recommendation of the pro shop owner at the lanes where I bowl----the warning is correct---THIS BALL HOOKS!!!!!!
 Left the ball in box condition as far as the surface goes. Set up to hook hard as I am a little"rev challenged" plus I have a little higher ball speed than most. If I read the sheet right it's a 3 3/8th set up with a balance hole. Don't know the specs other than 16lbs . Pin is to the right and above my ring finger---am a righty.  CG is 2" to the right of grip centerline and a little towards the thumb. HOOK IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT!!!!
 Standing 35 and playing 15 out to 7 it screams back hard but not uncontrollably---a good hard-hooking but readable oil ball. When they're throwing up rooster tails with other balls this is the one to pull out of your bag. Carry is very good with only one 10 pin left all night. Light hits clear the deck and flush hits result in utter absolute destruction of those defenseless pins---lol. Don't think I've ever thrown a ball that hits this hard but is still readable. I would recommend this ball to anyone who needs a ball for flooded conditions.
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: DrillLord on February 04, 2003, 06:26:20 PM
Had this ball for a while and I have hust got around to posting a review.  Haven't had a lot of breakthrough series with it on wood lanes, but I have no problem holding my average.  Ball is drilled 3 3/8 x 2 3/8 with the pin slightly above the ring finger.  This ball has a huge backend with more length than I had expected.  Just bowled on synthetics with it last week in a tournament and never bowled a game less than 30 pins over average.  Beautiful reaction and I only left two ten pins all day.  This is a major accomplishment for myself.  Left one 8 - 10 on a shot that I thought just crushed the pocket.  Love this ball and I am thinking of getting a few more MoRich balls to play with in the future.  I give this ball a 9 out of 10 because I feel that the cover requires a lot of maintenance since I gets really shiny and I find myself hitting it with a green scotch brite to keep it active.
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: TimmyTenPin on February 16, 2003, 09:36:14 AM
Bought this ball about two months ago because of a new house I am bowling at.
LAnes are never the same twice and there is no room for error.  You go outside and forget it your'e lucky to keep it on the lane.  I struggled figuring out this ball and the cover.  I bought a ball that was supposed to hook and at first I was disappointed but now that I figured it out it works great.  In the past nine league nights at different houses I have not shot below 660.  Ball works great on both synthetic as well as wood.  I take a marron scotch brite to the ball after every six games.  The ball glazes over real fast and looses energy.  If I keep up with the cover the ball works great.  The other thing with Morich Balls is you can very easily over throw the balls.  I own the pearlized as well and this is a great 1 - 2 combination for any bag.  Any other suggestions with regards to the supreme would be greatly appreciated.

Good luck and Good Bowling
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: TimmyTenPin on March 18, 2003, 11:13:10 AM
Help,  I am using this ball and still have not found the best cover for the ball whether it is polished or scuffed.  The condition I am having most trouble with is wooden lanes with a very inconsistant shot. Seems to be a spot on the lane right at the break point where the ball just slides out.  I know I have to adjust but my question would be should I leave the ball scuffed so it still has drive when it hits that spot?  HELP
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: BT on April 01, 2003, 11:31:21 AM
I bought a used Supreme so I am not real sure of the condition of the ball. First thing I did was to resurface it with trizact (green then blue). Maybe this is not advised? Anyway, I am VERY impressed with this ball! It is drilled about 3 X 3 with a balance hole (1" X 3 inch deep) way out 7 inches from center line. The RC is nearly directly below the thumb. The ball on a fairly heavy oil pattern gets LOTS of length and, a tremendous backend reaction. It IS possible to throw past the breakpoint with to much speed. I think this ball hits harder than any other ball I have ever thrown. Trips corners out very well! Only problem is like mentioned above by someone it glazes over pretty fast. Maybe this is due to the trizact I used. I am wondering if there would be a stronger drill? Maybe moving the RC right more?

BT
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: ZX9-R on April 18, 2003, 04:25:51 AM
I'm a stroker with medium revs and low speed (21 km/h)

I needed a ball that outhooked my Columbia Surge (pitty, this ball doesn't excist on the site ). The Surge didn't come enough on patterns with over 42 foot of oil. So I bought this Supreme cause of the nice sticking plaster
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This ball NEEDS oil. I played on a tournament with 43(!!) foot of oil, and this was the only ball that hooked. I think this is the ultimate ball for very wet patterns. I think you shouldn't buy this ball to play on medium patterns; it tolls too soon and is about dead in the pins ( u can polish it though)

About the carry? I have only seen 2 balls with more carry in my life (with my style of bowling ofcourse), those are RotoGrip SD-73 & AZO Little Boy. Maybe the apex agression has about the same carry as the colossus...

Conclusion: Most agressive ball I've ever seen, early roll, nice backend.
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Reporting from The Netherlands,

*Life begins at 180*

Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: Plane Facts on May 09, 2003, 04:47:16 PM
The Colossus Supreme is most certainly without a doubt one of the most powerful balls ever manufactured.

I set mine up 3x3/8 x 3x3/8 and ended up with 3/8 positive side weight, 2 oz top weight, and a touch of finger weight.  Gross weight after drilling is 14 LBS.

This layout has proven suitable on a range of lane conditions varying from most typical league patterns, to longer heavier patterns used in more progressive associations and tournaments.

As long as there is enough oil to allow this ball to rev up it will deliver a hit that is out of this world, just crushes the deck.  Playing up the boards with a good amount of speed, moving inside and swinging, not a problem on either line.

When the heads dry up this ball will let you know it’s time for the bag, but use it on the environment it was designed for and prepare to be impressed.

Over all this is just a really sweet ball. I was upset at the fact Morich lost it’s PBA certification, I bowled in the first stop of the senior’s tour last weekend in Chillicothe,OH pro AM event and placed 30th out of 102 total, I believe if I would have used the Colossus supreme I would have finished in the top five or perhaps even better.


Mike Anoles AKA Plane Facts
Vx800@juno.com
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: blustar333 on May 10, 2003, 11:01:33 PM
Let me say this, I love this ball! Guess I'll drop a name while I'm here, too. My brother, PlaneFacts, who suggested and drilled my ball, was right on the mark, as I've never posted a review before and have only been bowling for a couple years now, I'm not well versed in the, official lingo but, I know a strike! when I see one! and this ball gives it to me. I play deep left, with left foot lined up with the gutter and play a swingline out to about the 5 board and this ball revs! grabs! and goes! like nothing I've ever seen. On a fresh shot it rules! and even with some breakdown, and carrydown, it still holds the line with just a little work. I've gone from a 160 avg. to a comfortable 180+ with this ball and am looking forward to my first 700 rolling this fine Morich ball. For what it's worth, from a novice bowler? I recommend this ball, highly
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: laner7pin on September 07, 2003, 02:32:32 AM
Alright, I broke down and picked up this hook in a box recently and it has been very good to me so far.

Specs:
14 1/2 lbs (I know lighter but its all good)
Pin: 2"
Top: Unknown

Drilled: Pin above ring finger, cg just inside the palm (under and inbetween ring and pinky finger).

Ball gets down the lane revving hard and once it hits the dry it turns hard and carry is fairly good considering it is a sub 15lb ball. Home house modified the shot this year, 36 feet still but a little less inside and a about the same outside, which was fairly light. With less weight in hand, I have to really watch my speed or else it is bucket city. When I control speed, throw about 10-5 and stand back and watch it hit. Pins stay very low, so less messengers but when the ball is hitting flush in the pocket, corners get kicked out well. Swish hits carry well, but for me once the speed amps up, I tend to ring a 5 pin
Ball works great for the shot/line for me, doesnt burn up the oil like my WOW or Hercules. Need to open the thumb up more, for the end of the 2nd game I am hanging on to it too long and getting errant on shotmaking, which means put it away. Other than that, want to get another in 15lbs and drill it slightly different for another look with this beast. First game with this ball shot 258 (bragging rights), but other than that no real super high scores, due to lanes breaking down, poor shots, missing easy spares. Great ball from Mo, get one (or another) before it goes away. Overall a 9 out of 10!

erock666
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If I could only pick up a 7 pin.....
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: Neo on February 08, 2004, 05:47:59 PM
Got the Supreme about a week ago from a guy that said he bowled 12 games with it and was not happy with it. Said he could not get the ball to hook. The ball was in great shape so I bought it and had it resurfaced, plugged and drilled for me. I don't know how the guy couldn't get it to hook. The first night I used it it hooked like a dream with a little help from the alcohol wipe and the scotch brite. The next night I hit it with some 400 grit paper in the pro shop ball spinner then proceeded to bowl in my scratch league. Eventhough the lanes were extremely oily, I had to move 14 boards to the left and increase the ball speed to keep it on the right side of the head pin. I did leave several splits that night but it was not the balls fault it was mine. The ball would crush the pins anytime it was close to the pocket. The splits that I left were due to slowing down the speed and causing the ball to hook past the head pin, and even then it should have left more pins than it did, but the ball definitely has hitting power to take out a few extra pins. Overall with the few games that I have bowled with the Supreme, I am very pleased with the ball.(especially since I only payed $75 for a like new ball) I guess if you can't get this ball to hook, then you have a problem with your bowling, definitely not with the ball.
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: alpena71 on February 13, 2004, 09:18:36 AM
(purple]I purchased my Colossus Supreme the first weekend of 2004. This ball was recommended by a pro shop dealer.  With my older ball as the lanes dry up and I moved into the middle the ball would leave the five pin more times then not. With the Colossus I was able to move into the middle even on oily lanes and carry the five pin. This ball was drilled to finish hard at the back end and that is what it does.  I have bowled in two tournaments and regular league for just one month have payed for this ball 10 times over.  I have not had a 700 series in four years and with this ball hit my fifth 700 with two of them in tournaments. This is the most impressive ball I have ever owned.
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: 2infinity on February 16, 2004, 06:05:45 PM
Bought this ball 2 weeks ago, was looking for a ball that would turn and burn.
The ball doesn't hook as much as I would like, I had it drill for the maximum reaction, however it's more of a smooth arc, but hits like a truck. Burns up the head oil fast, by the third game you really have to pickup speed. I have a 195 average, I've shot four series with this ball and have averaged 212. Still getting used to it. Love the ball so far.....
Title: Re: Colossus Supreme
Post by: rocketman16426 on June 22, 2004, 10:29:18 PM
bought this ball as a blem and had it drilled with the pin above ring finger and cg 1/4" right of my thumb with no weight hole. this ball out of the box i shot 238,209,267. i am a average speed bowler with average revs. ball rolled great and had a nice arc to the pocket which i was looking for. i played a few different lines for a few weeks to find out which works for me. i put a light scuff on this ball to help with the heavy oil i bowl on. shot 245,179,267 last night. excellent ball and seems to keep rolling every week. another great product from morich.