Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Color: Purple
Coverstock: Reactive
Core: 2-piece Asymmeterical
RG: 2.50
Differential: 0.058
Factory finish: Polished
Weights: 14 thru 16lbs
Post by: SonysControlFreak on November 27, 2002, 08:42:57 PM
Post by: TimPenner on December 13, 2002, 03:10:24 PM
When it was too shiny, it didn't have much of a predictable break point, so then my options were to throw a small, deep weight hole in it or take a little shine off of it. I opted for the latter and it gets great length even though it isn't shined to the hilt.
Everyone should have one in their arsenal. This ball is a great fit between the V2 solid and the V2 Particle in my opinion and the TPC line is going to challenge the V2 line for the best of the best.
Great job Ebonite!
Tim Penner
Ebonite Regional Staff
Post by: BowlersAidProShop-Randy on January 13, 2003, 02:26:52 AM
box finish
Played on a number of house conditions with this ball since I got it, and it will be making a trip to Reno with me tomorrow. So far I am very pleased with the roll. I was looking for perhaps a slightly earlier version of my Vortex 2. This ball definately reads the midlane a bit quicker than the Vortex 2 with a strong move to the pocket. This is not by any means a heavy oil ball, however it definately will give you a slightly different look than the V2. I think this is a solid addition to Ebonite's line.
Randy Russell
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Post by: Eddie Williams on January 14, 2003, 02:19:56 PM
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Post by: rensuchan on February 02, 2003, 02:54:29 AM
(I also wanna thank Colonial Lanes for not mangling the ball through its first three games too)
Overall, I like the ball, and it fits my game (mid-high revs, mid speed) well. 9.5/10 for my first Ebonite ball.
Post by: James Campbell on February 14, 2003, 08:15:42 PM
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Post by: Garcia on February 17, 2003, 02:27:38 AM
This is the DARK PURPLE version (strong version).
This ball has the most unique roll of any ball I've thrown, besides the Warrior. Its a reactive ball that reads both the midlane AND backend almost equally. Very large core with an added flip block lets the ball rev in the midlane and still change direction sharply on the backend. I cant think of another bowling ball that rolls like this. A great compliment to those seeking the midlane roll of V2's BUT with the added sharp backend hook.
This ball rolls similar to the Warrior but without being allergic to carrydown. The stronger solid shell of the Shooter handles carrydown more easily.
Xeno Garcia
Ebonite Regional Staff
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Post by: Doug Davidson on February 20, 2003, 12:03:27 PM
I think Ebonite has hit a home run with the new Big Bang Resin coverstock. As much as I hate to say it, my V2 isn't my goto ball anymore. (even though I still have 2 of them and won't take them out of my bag) This ball reacts very close to the V2, but can handle the carry down much better and not crap out on the backend.
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Post by: James Campbell on February 20, 2003, 11:31:39 PM
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Post by: Norm Titus on February 23, 2003, 08:41:31 AM
I drilled it on label and was amazed at its ability to REV up where it needed to an a couple different patterns. I like the Warrior alot so I drilled this bass similar to my favorite Warrior. Pin under my bridge and CG in the thumb quadrant with a little positive shift. Very versatile coverstock. With the Ebonite particle polish I could get it through the fronts plenty clean enough to predict a good reaction, and with some surface (1000 grit wet sanded)I could get it to pick up in a pretty heavy pattern. I don't think you need much more surface that 1000 it is mighty strong. A must have if you like your Warrior.
Post by: Jim Lewis on February 23, 2003, 08:00:35 PM
TPC Shooter by Ebonite is a reactive resin ball with midlane movement. If you must use a reactive resin ball and are having any issues with the TPC Warrior or the Vortex 2's this is your ball.
Since I bowl mainly on wet/dry league or Sport/PBA conditions, I drilled a Shooter with the pin at 5 inches and put the PSA in my track at 135 degrees. There is no balance hole and the ball has been scuffed slightly with 800 grit Scotch-Brite. This layout is similar to one in a Vortex 2 Pearl and is intended to allow the ball to roll from the midlane, instead of diving through the backend.
Even with the weaker layout, the TPC Shooter was still quite angular in the midlane. In comparison to a TPC Warrior with 5 inch, 75 degree layout, the Shooter was still stronger at the breakpoint. The Vortex 2 Pearl did break earlier than the TPC Shooter with the same layout.
The TPC Shooter and Warrior have a Propeller core. My experience with the Propeller core is that it seems to allow the ball to glide through the midlane area easier with the same layout when compared to other high performance balls. The advantage of this is that one can use a stronger layout and avoid some of the early hook problems in the midlane area. This is especially true on tougher lane conditions such as Sport Bowling where the "pile of oil in the middle" isn't present to correct a mistake. Although the TPC line was targeted for use on tournament conditions, these balls play well on regular league shots as well. This is especially true with the stronger Shooter. TPC Shooter is the solid ball in this line, and the TPC Warrior is the pearlized version.
The Shooter is a ball that I can rely upon to provide a predictably strong reaction in the midlane on medium conditions. I would recommend the TPC Shooter to anyone but the flamethrowers.
Jim Lewis
Ebonite Regional Staff
Post by: Tony Glickley on February 27, 2003, 10:33:01 AM
I drilled mine with the pin under my ring finger and putting the PSA at a 45% angle from the pin. As you put the PSA closer to your axis point, you will achieve more length and stability.
I can use this ball and layout on a lot of different lane conditions. This ball reads the midlane better than any ball I've ever had. This ones a keeper!
The core in the TPC series requires some knowledge of what you want your ball to do BEFORE you drill holes in it. Weight holes can help tone the reaction down. Layouts without weight holes that hit the core will give you an Asymmetrical reaction. I have found that drilling a small hole deep and hitting the core will stabilize the core, giving it a more symmetric reaction. Always ask a trained and experienced ball driller about the reaction you are looking for.
Tony Glickley
Ebonite amateur Staff
Bowl to Win!
Post by: Jeff Carter on February 28, 2003, 07:40:46 PM
Bowl to Win
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Post by: Jace Peterson on March 04, 2003, 01:20:55 PM
Post by: DrThumb on March 06, 2003, 01:14:22 PM
The propeller core provides carry on ten pins that I thought would never go out and makes the pins fly across the pindeck like crazy. This core has given me more scouts than any other ball that I have thrown.
I am looking forward to using this ball a lot this summer.
Ebonite Senior Tour Staff Member
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Post by: E Ramos on March 25, 2003, 09:48:52 AM
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Post by: UNObowler01 on May 07, 2003, 12:11:01 PM
pin out 2.5
top unknown
Layout:
5 1/2 x 6
Pin under middle finger, label kicked negative about 1/2 inch. PSA in weak position, thumb neg. quadrant. Middle finger tapped deeper to bring side weight to flat. Less than 1/4 oz. thumb.
Awesome control ball! Controllable, good hit for a not-so-defined backend move.
First used it on wood lanes, house shot. 38 feet, 10 to 10 wall. I was able to get inside the oil line and create good area. Not the best idea to wing it right-it doesn't come back hard enough to swish pins. However, held in it will hit with Mack Truck-like authority.
Used it next on tournament shot-synthetics, 40 feet, OB outside 10. Couldn't use it early...too high of volume to get any roll. Would skid too much and hit pocket weakly if at all...Tried to set it short, and it was just too squirrely. After the track got defined (after about 10 bakers games) I could stay inside the track and get great roll, standing on 30 throwing over 20 at the arrows, coming up the back of the ball. Hit was great, carry was impressive in a house in where carry is never a given.
Definitely a good ball. I've always been leary of Ebonite stuff, but this one is the one that started to change my mind. Usually my first ball out now. I feel comfortable with it and can use it deep into a tournament without struggle. 9.5 out of 10.
Good one Ebonite. Might try the Warrior next.
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Post by: amish_ashaman on October 09, 2003, 05:43:34 PM
My league shot is a Christmas Tree type pattern on wood, and with the humidity here it burns up quick. I might start out playing 15-8 with this ball, and finish inside, maybe 25-12. With either of those two lines, or anything I play in between, this ball recovers very strong, doesn't overreact, and sustains a lot of energy for the end.
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Post by: REVOLUTIONS PS on November 16, 2003, 08:47:24 PM
I was looking for something very specific and thought that the unique core design of this ball might allow me to create that reaction. I can tell you that I was able to create the reaction I was looking for and although I am very happy with it, I have only put about 30 games on the Shooter and am reserving judgement on it until I know better what it's life span will be.
I have wanting to find a ball that I would be able to play straighter up the boards with for some time. Although that sounds simple, for me it has not been so. The lanes I bowl on most often (synthetic with dry back ends) seem to transition too quickly for most of my other equipment. I wanted something stable, like a pin axis ball but that would go longer than that pattern does. When I saw the core diagram for the TPC Shooter, I thought that this ball might make that possible. I drilled the ball with the pin under the left finger, which put it 6" from my p.a.p. I then placed the mb beyond the val but up high, so it was more in line with my p.a.p. That meant the c.g. on the ball I used was almost even with the finger holes but thanks to the fact I used a very low top weight, I simply drilled the fingers deeper to eliminate the excess finger weight. I also needed a small balance hole, which I placed on my axis, it was 7/8" x 2" deep, resulting weights were 1/2 finger and 1/4 positive. I sanded the shell with my ball track using 800, 1200 and 1500 grit and then polished the shell using Ebonite's 'Factory Finish' ball polish to a high gloss.
What I had was just what I had hoped for, a very stable rolling ball that produced superior Len but that reacted on the back end like a pin-axis ball, very smooth. The carry has been as good as any ball I own and as mentioned, so far so good with respect to any loss of reaction or carry.
I have been able to play straight up the track on nights where I otherwise would have been playing third arrow or deeper. I also can play outside the track, provided there isn't too much dry near the channel, there the ball can over react on shots missed right. I am not able to swing the ball more than four or five boards but again, that is not how I set the ball up.
This is by far the most specific ball review I have ever posted but perhaps it can still be a help to someone looking for a similar reaction. I am a player who throws between 17.5 and 19 mph with between 19 and 21 revolutions, minimal axis tilt and approximately 45-65 degrees of axis rotation.
If you have any questions regarding this or any other of our reviews, e-mail us at: proshop@bowlero.com
Post by: jdbadboy on June 28, 2004, 03:03:54 AM
First review for me, just back into bowling after a 15 year layoff, things have changed!!
Well, I don't know about the pin placement or the drilling specs, I just tell the man what I want it to do and leave that up to him.
I'm heavy handed so I have had some issues finding something to keep on the lanes so I've had to purchase a few new balls to check out what the possibilities are. The TPC Player was never intended to be my out of the bag first ball but I was pleasantly suprised to find the consistency in both the roll and forgiveness in the backends.
I usually swing standing around 38 and toss 20-12 and have it come around in the pocket. I have actually been more accurate a little more left and coming up straighter in the oil. This ball holds all the way and hits the pocket very nicely. I have yet to have this ball roll out on me no matter what the ball speed or revs on the ball. Shot at the house is usually dry on wood lanes but this one sits up nice as long as I don't get froggy and venture outsid 10 board. Well, that's it.
I'd say so far out of the 7 new balls I've tried, this one is a 9 of 10.
Gotta love that EBAY.
Post by: Invertedsdfg 1 on July 14, 2004, 01:26:34 AM
When the Eliminator is hooking out of the building or the lanes are fried, this little jewel shines for me. I've used it in medium heavy to sahara conditions and have always been able to find the pocket and carry hits with it. I've pointed it straight up the 10 board as well as winged it out to the 5 board from 20 and know that if I hit the pocket, I'll carry the shot. Never had it die or roll out on me.
I have it drilled with the pin just over my ring finger with a large weight hole on the other side. I believe it's drilled for length with max flare potential. The ball surface is easy to adjust and it adjusts well to changes in it's cover. I currently have a grey scotbrite surface which I believe is about 1000 grit.
I've recommended this ball to just about everybody. If your on a budget and want to have a very versatile ball that can adapt to your game or your house conditions, this is the one you should have!! You can pick this ball up on ebay for about $40.
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Post by: dizzyfugu on August 26, 2004, 02:41:00 PM
About me:
Style = Stroker/mild Tweener, right-handed
Speed = 13,5-14,5 mph
PAP = 5" & 7/8"^
Axis tilt = 18,7°
Revs = 250-300 RPM at release
For more details, check out my profile, please.
Ball setup:
My Shooter is slightly pin-out (distance riser pin to CG = 2 1/4"). When I received it, it was already drilled with what I found out was a leverage drilling for a low track player (due to the high x-hole and odd pin and CG placement, see below). Well, I decided to stick with it because the holes and the span almost fit perfectly (only a small finger correction was necessary), and the drilling with pin under the fingers would match the light to medium conditions I'd want to play with the Shooter.
The ball was/is drilled 4" pin from my PAP (the original PAP was much higher than mine), the pin ended up 1" at 5 o'clock of my ring finger. CG kicked out 2" from midlane, which puts the PSA at ~45° from my PAP. For a high tracker like me the drilling results in an early rolling, rather arcing, controllable reaction.
A small X-hole (1" wide and deep) was added by the previous owner on his PAP to make ball legal. Due to my higher track and lower PAP the original hole now decreases track flare for me - a good choice, and one hole less to fill! The X-hole is now probably 2" above and 1/1" behind my PAP.
Finger inserts (oval rubber) and thumb slug (the former one, only needed some small filing to fit) completed the preparations. Surface was slightly polished to match box condition.
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* = Pin
# = CG
m = mass bias/PSA marker
x = X-hole
Ball picture: http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3473657
Testing program:
First deployment, even before I got it adjusted for my span at my pro shop, was in a house with old wood lanes and a light/medium length oil pattern. I was very impressed! I only made a few frames to check the ball and its reaction before it went into "surgery", but the first shot with the ball was directly a strike and the following frames showed a very predictable path and breakpoint with great pin carry.
Unfortunately, the house was revamped shortly thereafter and bears now AMF synths with a heavy oil crown pattern, so this is the only (short) wood experience I can tell about.
In another local house with a medium-light 30-35' THS it is 1st choice. With my early reaction setup the ball benefits greatly from dry outside boards. It will move a lot and recover from almost anywhere, crushing the pin deck with great carry. Typical shot in this house is standing at 29+ (up to 35th board!) with my right shoe tip and playing across 3rd arrow or even deeper. Finding confidende in the recovery abilities of this ball, I can get it out to 5-7th board where it will break after 32-36' down the lane and roar back to the pocket.
I am able to create much room for error and carry with this ball on a lighter condition like this, and it is surprising how long the ball can be kept in play - even if it does not bring back any oil tracks anymore! But also the TPC Shooter has its limits: When it gets too dry, it will leave ugly splits as a dire sign to change to a milder ball. But it takes long to get that dire!
I also tried it on one of my regular houses with a medium-heavy 40' sports pattern on Brunswick synth lanes... Well, the (old) Shooter does NOT like much or long oil at all. With my normal throwing style it went almost dead straight, skidding long. At the oil end it started rolling, but did not grip and only hooked slightly, missing its breakpoint. The Shooter wanted to work, but did not find traction and lost its power. Maybe the later (darker) version of the Shooter is less oil sensitive? The early one with a glossy surface is definitively not an oil ball. But playing it straight from 22nd board over 3rd arrow worked fine, even on this tough shot for this ball.
Conclusions:
From my experiences so far, I give it a solid 9 out of 10 on light to medium conditions, as well as on short medium patterns and on burnt longer/heavier patterns. I can only give it a mere 4 or 5 out of 10 on fresh, heavier conditions or long oil: too much oil will simply let the Shooter skid without control, at least with a polished surface. I do not know if sanding will help -some voices in this section sound positive about this.
Lane utility for tested ball (pattern length vs. oil volume):
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|+ X X| Light volume
|X X 0| Medium volume
|+ 0 0| Heavy volume
Legend:
X = Best suited with effective control & carry
+ = Fairly suited (works, somehow, but lacks control)
0 = Unsuited (ineffective, either slips or burns up)
The chart concept is borrowed from Storm's 2003 catalogue. Surface prep and drillings may change the results, it is just personal experience with my style
The TPC Shooter is a very good and useful ball for light to medium conditions - for experienced players. I found, like with my TPC Player, that it is quite release-senstive. When I had it "new" and my release had more flaws, I struggled very often to keep the Shooter in the pocket. I hated the ball for this... One year later I must admit that it was just me and that you can do a lot with this ball, just by doing some "finger dancing" and changing hand and wrist positions. It's great!
Additionally, the drill pattern and the Propeller core's position generally seem to be very influential for the ball's overall reaction, even though it just has a low mass bias. This confirms my impression of the TPC ball series that a player who wants to take advantage of these balls' potential needs a consistent release. Nevertheless, if lane conditions and your game match, this is a killer (and a precise one, too)! The high sensitivity to release changes can be a drawback - the ball WILL do what you make it do!
For me, the TPC Shooter is a very good option for late games on my sport shot league or the occasion that there is not much oil out there at all. I am happy that I can rely on it as soon as the track loses too much oil for more aggressive balls, because the Shooter keeps me easily in play and scoring until the end of the day. I also found it handy when I face high humidity in summer league, when the general back end grip level rises and my stronger balls burn out or move just too much and unpredictably. Then, it becomes a good choice for the flat medium 40' sports pattern I mentioned before. The early roll drilling is just perfect for this job.
For real dry conditions this ball is way too much unless you give it a truly weak drilling. No wonder that Ebonite added the Shooter XL.
I like it very much, because it reacts like a solid reactive should do: not itchy, nice midlane read, wonderful backend if I give it some hand and a spread index finger. With some training, this is a strong and versatile ball which can be made to move a lot or go straight with a late arcing move - just by release changes. It has a place in my tournament bag for sure and I do not see a replacement need (or option) so far.
Underlining "Inverted 1"'s entry from 7/13/2004, I must agree: if you find a TPC Shooter in good condition at a reasonable price, this ball is still a good choice and a versatile addition for your ball arsenal. But you must be able to handle it properly with a consistent release.
on edit 12/05:
Only drawbacks so far (if there is any) is the coverstock's tendency do pick up any dirt and grime from the lane and the mechanics and bring it back. But maybe it's just a subjective impression due to the polished single color, light purple coverstock? Doing some regular cleaning is enough to keep it clean, though.
Additionally, I think that any polish on this ball weras off much easier than on other. Again, this can just be a visual misguidance through the single light color and the use on short oil, but I cannot get rid of this impression...
But, as with all of my other Ebonite balls so far (TPC Player, XXcel), my TPC Shooter has not lost any power yet. Nice piece!
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"All that we see or seem, is but a dream within a dream..." - Edgar Allen Poe
Edited on 26.09.2011 at 7:45 AM
Post by: eddy on December 27, 2004, 06:42:11 PM
Post by: YABA300AT14 on September 14, 2005, 08:32:57 PM
I don't know all the numbers on the ball but i had it at 5" span from ring finger to thumb. I am a stroker throwing at the 8th board. (lefty). I was throwing some nice shots with it. I just got it and went bowling with it STRAIGHT outta the box. I didn't get it brand new, the holes were already drilled, i used some rosin for my thumb hole but i was doing very well. I give this ball 9.5/10. It really carried on almost any shot for me but if you hit dead one, i saw a couple 4-6-7s and one 7-10. only opens of the day, this ball is coming out of the bag FIRST
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Post by: dno36 on October 27, 2009, 09:55:51 AM
This is my 1st Ebonite ball since my Gyro-I I received in 1970, and I am very happy with it.
I have found I can use this ball in almost any condition on any surface at all except when lanes are very dry across the boards, it needs to find some oil to play and react well.
When oil pattern is heavy and wide, I can still get the ball to move early enough with speed and pitch adjustment to get the ball to react earlier and have strong carry at lower ball speeds, which is a huge bonus for me as I do not like changing balls.
When natural wood lanes start drying out, can move out and get a great reaction and carry across the track with an increase in speed to hold line. This is one of my favorite shots that with other balls I was not able to score well at all.
This balls hard finish has made my 7-pins go away and has raised my average to show this advantage.
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