Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
The Radical Inferno® is the first ball to take full advantage of Brunswick’s new Urethane casting machine. The machine is part of a custom built “State-of-the-Art†room full of high-tech equipment that incorporates enhanced control over processing parameters. This machine includes a sensor system that monitors temperatures, pressures and flow rates at every important point in the casting process. Our new mixing head is multi-color and particle capable. This all new system allows the Brunswick R&D team the unprecedented ability to fine tune bowling ball performance.
Octane Coverstock
Our new Urethane casting machine has enabled Brunswick to produce a new class of Reactive coverstock. Octane coverstock is the result of 3 years of Research and Development into both materials technology and Urethane processing parameters. The same meticulous screening of materials that produced the Activator coverstock family has now resulted in Octane. Improved back-end traction with a sharper breakpoint, Octane is a perfect complement to the Activator coverstock balls known for their early revving ball reaction.
Reaction Characteristics
The Radical Inferno is in the highly angular ball reaction class with a high traction breakpoint that is sharp, powerful and continuous. With its high gloss polish surface the Radical Inferno gets down the lane and through the heads with ease. What is unique about the Radical is its ability the make a sharp, continuous turn to the pocket with more traction at the breakpoint. Our ball test group has commented at length about their ability to keep their speed up with the Radical Inferno, without the ball losing traction down lane in heavy oil or heavy carrydown. The Radical is the best they have ever seen in a highly polished Brunswick ball.
Utility
•Out of the Box: With its High Gloss Polish finish the Radical Inferno will match up well on medium-dry to medium-oily conditions.
•When dulled: The Radical Inferno hooking action will increase and its arc will become more even, creating a better match-up for oily lane conditions and help blend the over/under reactions seen on wet/dry lane conditions. The testing program for the Radical Inferno has identified two favored surface finishes. One is the Factory Finish High Gloss Polish that is being used on the Radical. The other is a dull, but very smooth surface typical of Scotch Bright White Pad or Abralon grits of 1000 or greater. If you bowl on a lane condition where your Radical Inferno goes too long and struggles to make a strong backend move, Brunswick strongly recommends that you remove the polish from the ball with a burgundy Scotch Bright pad, or similar aggressive abrasive, then use the Grey and White Scotch Bright pads, or the 500 & 1000 grit Abralon pads to create a dull, but very smooth surface finish.
Coverstock
Octane Reactive
Color:
Blue Pearl
Yellow Pearl
Chrome Pearl
Hardness: 76-78
Glow Engraving
Factory Finish
High Gloss Polish
More Information
Core Dynamics
Two-component
Dynamically
Symmetrical core
RG Max: 2.513â€
RG Min: 2.463â€
RG Diff: 0.050â€
RG Avg: 2.6 out of 10
Performance
Hook Potential 135
Length 100
Breakpoint Shape 95
Available Weights
12-16 Pounds
Post by: inferno2112 on August 07, 2006, 08:09:06 PM
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HG-300
HS-772
-Brunswick Radical Inferno
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Post by: bigbubba on August 13, 2006, 08:03:50 PM
BigBubba
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Post by: Corey C on August 17, 2006, 01:40:39 AM
5.5" pin to PAP, 4" CG to PAP
Pin above fingers, 3/4 finger, 3/4 side
I drilled my first Radical with the pin high to see if I could get an Inferno down the lane with continuation through the pin deck.
Right from the very first toss, this ball doesn't react like a typical Inferno. IT IS very clean through the heads saving energy for the back end. With this drilling I can really open up a house shot like no other Inferno. This ball will also be perfect for when a tournament shot starts to break down and starts to give you a little room.
For the house bowler who wants a high end ball for league this is a must. It is a little smoother at the breakpoint than my high pin Red Zone. And for the experienced player who wants to open up the lane and still have good control of the breakpoint this is a perfect fit.
I can't wait until Brunswick puts this coverstock on a Zone or BVP core.
Stay tuned for the low pin review in the next few days.....
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Corey Clayton
Brunswick Amateur Staff
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Team Canada
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Post by: Round_House on August 23, 2006, 02:28:52 PM
ARSENAL
Ultimate Inferno
Radical Inferno
Monster Slyar
Zone Viz aball
Post by: backswing_aplenty on August 27, 2006, 12:00:45 AM
Drilled 5 1/2 pin to PAP, cg at 45 degrees, 3/4" hole on PAP. Pin under ring finger.
This ball is true as advertised. The most skid/flip Brunswick ball since the Fuze Igniter. This drilling allows me to stay straighter through the heads and allows for a strong, but controllable move to the pocket. I think a pin up ball would allow for more coast to coast action, but the is turning out to be a fantastic control ball. I've adjusted the cover down to 1000 abralon allowed me to move a couple boards deeper while still providing a suprisingly sharp move considering the grit.
This Octane cover looks legit. Can't wait for new iterations, and a Zone core for it to be wrapped around.
*backswing
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Post by: khaderach19 on August 31, 2006, 01:56:01 AM
cover taken down with 2000 abralon
I am totally amazed by this ball. I had the smokin' and was questioning if I should buy this ball or not, considering the major overlap. But today in practice, my smokin' got major damage (the house where I shoot put in new gutters, I dunked the ball and it went up and hit the camera, and cracked the ball pretty deep and long). Long story short, I bought this ball the same day to replace my smokin'.
Right of the start, this ball is extremely clean, I was bowling on a fresh TSH and I thought this ball would just skate through the backend, but it didn't, it snapped right into the pocket. I got a 200 on the first game. I like how it revves up so much quicker than the smokin.
Also I have some questions about the ball itself.
1.) what's with the smell? I actually like it, but what part in the manufacturing process gave it a smell?
2.) even though it claims to be smooth through the fronts, it make a wierd noise down the land? anybody care to explain
Post by: ChrispyBrownies on September 03, 2006, 11:53:37 PM
-reviewed by the flamethrower
Drilled up with pin diagonally up and right of ring by about 1 inch to 1 1/2 inches. CG out. for the first time, I got different inserts AND I finally got a slug. . .
Ring-Clear grip, pretty sure its VISE
Middle-VISE white insert
Thumb-Clear Slug(not sure who makes it
Goes long and snaps hard. Simply put. SECOND SET OUT OF BOX I SHOT A 300. That was first one too. Hits like a friggin fat Albert. The coverstock, Octane, yet again is very durable. Still no nicks on it whatsoever.
First set on a regular 36ft house shot I went 239, 207, 279. Second set I go 220, 300, 257.
Playing straight up is just as easy as swinging it out. I could play straight up 2nd arrow or straight up between 3rd and 4th arrow and still hammer the pocket.
When I swung it out, I started leaning against the ball return layed it down around the edge of the gutter, and shot it over 3rd arrow from the left. I swung out to about 2nd arrow on the right, and snapped something crazy, nailing the pocket again. And all this time, I kept my same ball speed. crazy. . .
ONE MAJOR PROBLEM THOUGH.
It ed. less than 15 games on it and it ed around the ring finger. not cool. But I have to admit, the guys over at brunswick took me as one of there own, along with AllStarBowling-Joe, who gave me a new one, no charge.
It is very versitile, just like every other inferno I have thrown.
AND. . .The colors and also something that turns heads going down the lanes. very nice swirl, blends into each other nicely.
Once again Brunswick makes a suuuhhh-weeeeeetttt bowling ball. as if thats news
Keep it it up Brunswick, you all are still NUMERO UNO in my books.
ALSO, I would like to give a sincere thank you to Joe from AllStarBowling for his service. If I need anything bowling related, he is always on the top of the list. A big bear hug goes out to him.
Thanks for reading my review,
Chrispy
AKA-The Flamethrower
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Its hard to play with an inferno and not get burned. Last time I threw my inferno, the opposing bowler definitely got burned.
Since I only throw Infernos, just call me the Flamethrower.
Pimpin ain't easy-it's mandatory.
This is 10% luck, 20% skill, 15% concentrated power of will, 5% pleasure, 50% pain, and 100% reason to remember the name
-Fort Minor
Post by: tonykcgee on September 19, 2006, 06:32:00 PM
OKOK its possible that I might be exaggerating a bit, people tell me I do this sometimes <ahem> but man I'll tell you what, this core is EL STRONGO THE BEAR and the coverstock may have special mood ring powers which accentuates my mistakes by a kachillian boards...that's right! the house I bowl at has a kachillian and one boards.
Look I'm no Thro-bot, I'm not even throf-art but I'm not a scrub either; I can hit the side of a barn when the stars are aligned and I take my Viagra. I know what makes this sport easy like a crackwhore needing a fix.
Hope you liked my review.
Post by: Dwight Albrecht on September 21, 2006, 12:42:05 AM
Ball Specs
The ball being drilled was a 3†pin out with 3.00 oz top weight.
Drilling: Pin 3 3/4" from PAP and Mb 45 degree angle. Pin is above ring finger, 3" above grip midline. Weight Hole on my axis. Factory Polished.
Bowler Information:
Track diameter is 10 1/2.
PAP is measured at 5 1/4 over and 3/8" up.
Average ball speed (foul line to head pin) is 17 mph.
Axis rotation is typically 90 degrees
Initial rev rate is typically 300 rpm, "Tweener"
Lane Condition and Pattern:
Bowlero Lanes, HPL 9000 Panel. Oil Pattern: Fairly Flat condition from edge board to edge board, semi clean backends.
Review: Saw Mika throw the Radical at this years Trade Show in Lombard IL. He told me to take a white scotch brite to the track right away to take out the under/over. I didn't listen to him initially, tried it factory polished. I like it, it reminds me of the Orginal Inferno in its hook and back end reaction. It is 3-4 boards more hook and earlier hook than my smokin but smoother on the back ends.
So I listened to Mika a took a 4000 grit abralon pad to it. I liked it better on Heavier Oil and it was more predictable but it lacked the back end snap reaction that I got out of it factory polished. So I re-polished it up and use it for my medium to dry lane choice. Hits hard and like the looks of it also.
Guys with more hand will like this ball, tweeners with probably have to break the shine if they are on oil with this ball.
The noise one of the other reviewers mention is probably from the shell, if you look close at the shell, it looks like the ball still has some grind lines in it from the manufacturing process that weren't sanded out smooth. I have seen that from other Brunswick balls so far this year, just not the Radical.
Thanks for reading me review.
Dwight
Post by: Perfect Approach Pro Shop on September 27, 2006, 04:08:42 AM
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Post by: tonykcgee on October 16, 2006, 11:16:32 AM
Ball sanded with Burgundy Scotch Brite pad
Better much better, same Radical Nuclear hit with a more playable reaction, this ball is one of the better explosive pin pulverizing balls from Brunswick.
Tonight I will be bringing this bling bling honey to my Monday Nite Merry Mixers and show off to Da LAYDEEES!
Post by: sacbert on October 23, 2006, 03:39:25 PM
I want to comment on this ball...
I'm tweener, right handed...
I've got this ball from my brother and I use his pin placement, just shorten the grip span...
Pin right next to ring finger, 1/4 sideweight, 1500 grit polished, no balance hole.
ball goes too long with a smooth arc at the backends, good hit and carry...
I'm looking for a flip/skid monster hitting ball, I've seen a few Radical I. already, I'm aware it 's not the best drilling layout to skid/flip, but I think it will give me enough info. when I buy one for my own.
So I'll try the high gloss finish (oob) that brunswick advertise in its web page, and I'll be posting another comment in a few days...
Greetings...
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- A wise man told me once, "If you want to do the best job, you have to have the best tools".. I would add "... be sure to know how to use those tools"...
Post by: lbss831 on October 26, 2006, 11:29:02 AM
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Post by: bwags300 on October 27, 2006, 11:55:15 AM
Post by: tonykcgee on November 02, 2006, 11:55:06 AM
88th game update. Hits good on dry, gives me high blood pressure in oil...trans fats = BAD
I think Brunswick held back and didn't tell us everything they can do in their new manufacturing plant. I think they can install AI (Artificial Intelligence) into their new balls because THIS BALL HATES ME!
Post by: DRY on November 07, 2006, 06:25:38 AM
Post by: Bigmike on November 18, 2006, 09:19:27 AM
Lay Out: Pin 5 x 4(75 deg)with a wt hole on my axis. The hole was initially small and was to remove side weight to make it legal, but has since been redrilled to be medium and deep enough to hit the core and alter the dynamics. I threw this box finish for a PBA regional tournament (pattern 3-38 feet) in the late games when the heads disappeared. I have since hit it with 2000 ABR and will probably take it down even more now.
What I have initally seen is a ball that is very smooth on the back and to me it reads less than my Rampage right now. I pull this out when the lane is broken down because it gives me hold area.
I am heading to the shop today to take it down to 360 ABR and then lightly hit it with Brunswick's Rough Buff (rubbing compound) to try to get it back to around 800 grit on the surface. I am hoping the good stuff that the regional and senior players in my area are talking about will show up with this surface adjustment. I will update this after I have done this.
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Mike Craig-Columbus, OH
Post by: Brandon Riley on December 13, 2006, 10:44:33 PM
Heres now it is set up: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/A_Good86/Radical.jpg
I drilled the ball to finish hard. Hoping that it would be good later in tournaments, allowing me to move deep when the lanes get dry and bite through carrydown.
In box finish there is no point in even trying it until the lanes have been worn in by a good 5-6 games. Just too long and squirty in oil. Problem is that even on dry lanes and carrydown the ball either burns up in the dry or doesn't finish hard enough in the carrydown to open up the lane or carry 10s.
I took it down to 1000 abralon and the reaction has improved greatly. It is much more controllable and predictable. The carry has improved greatly, and I can use it to bowl on a 2nd shift pattern and move in a bit. This ball likes to roll up a lot in the dry and hits well, but still doesn't hit well if it is tugged in the oil.
Positives: strong backend, gets downlane in a hurry on medium-dry conditions.
Negatives: over/under in box finish! Doesn't like carrydown. The ball is not nearly as strong or angular as advertised.
Not a bad ball, but not great either. It offers a very unique motion on the lanes because it rolls hard in the dry, but skids like no tomorrow in oil. Not a ball that I would recommend for your typical house shot, but a condition ball that will be simply amazing on the right blended pattern.
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Brandon Riley
Post by: Typhoon 10 on January 03, 2007, 03:22:30 AM
Post by: Flyin11 on January 05, 2007, 10:34:36 AM
2-3" Pin Placement
About 3 1/2oz Top Weight
Pin Is Located To The Right Of My Ring Finger
Not sure why there are so many bad or different reviews for this ball...I guess it all depends on how you throw and how you use it. I did not sand down the ball or do anything like that like others have suggested..Don't have the means to do so anyways. Bowled with the Radical for the first time last night, straight out of the box finish, and my first 4 games were 214, 203, 213, 208, and I shot a 238 later on. Love the color on the ball and how it looks going down the lane!! The ball hit like a truck and I had about a foot of forgiveness area. My shot was pretty much like Brunswick's diagram above, maybe with the ball a little more inside of that line. It did just like it advertised...The backend was amazing and as radical as the diagram shows. I usually throw a 14LB Storm Trauma ER but the thing would not hook and couldn't get a decent shot so the Radical is my new favorite and the Storm might just stay in the bag from now on. The only dislikes I can say is that when the lanes do start to dry up some of the hits do become kind of flat. Then again, this ball isn't really made for dryer conditions from what I can tell. Looks more like a Medium-Heavy Oil ball to me. Bottom line for me is that I love this ball and will keep using it regularly. It's a awesome ball by Brunswick and I'm very pleased with it!! Thank you Brunswick!!!
Post by: Deep-pow-ski on February 01, 2007, 01:03:03 PM
2"pin
strong layout
This ball is my favorite brunswick ball I have ever owned. It gets down the lane and has a strong arc to the pocket. It is also very shot specific. I only use this ball when I want to play down the boards and when there is enough oil outside. This was supposed to be a really angular ball and it just is not for me. It did however fit a need in my arsenal I wasn't even looking for. When I run in to a tough condition where a swing shot is squirty I will be the only one who is scoring. I shoot over 700 at least 75% of the time when this ball comes out of the bag. There are a lot of people that apparently do not like this ball. I can understand why! Certain shots it just does not work it is all over/under reactions. If I could only carry one ball this would not be it but it can fit in to an arsenal very nicely. I would still take the black widow over the radical any day. If you want a skid-snap ball go with a hammer product. This is still a fantastic product by brunswick. I just feel that Ebonite/Hammer are years ahead of brunswick in technology.
Post by: on February 04, 2007, 05:49:50 PM
It is most versatile with some of the polish taken off; approximately 1000 abralon or wet sanded to about 1500. A white scotch-brite is comparable, too. Still very clean through the heads and nice backend angle.
The versatility of this ball is it's strength.
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Laneman
Post by: HasBeenOrNeverWas on February 05, 2007, 02:17:17 PM
Gets down the lane well. With pin and CG placement, this ball does not overreact, but has a controllable flip, though not aggressive. So far, I've only used it in practice, but it does well with drier lanes or burned up heads. My game is a moderate power game and this ball works fine deep and tight or whenever I have to back off the ball and go straight. I can stay right longer if I go straighter and this ball definitely stores enough energy to hit well in that condition.
Again, this is not the first ball out of the bag on a fresh or medium condition, but that's what I had in mind in the first place.
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-Russ
Back in it after 10 years away...
Note: My belief is that these ball reviews will not mean much unless you have context regarding who's doing the review. For that, please check my profile.
Arsenal:
Brunswick Danger Zone (original - one of only two balls I kept when I left the sport in '96).
Brunswick Radical Inferno
Columbia Action Packed
Storm Thunderstruck
Brunswick Total Inferno
Post by: RSalas on February 24, 2007, 06:14:18 PM
Layout:
Pin 5†from PAP, above ring finger
CG on midline, ¾†to right of grip center
No XH
Initial Surface Preparation:
Box finish
Purpose:
To use as a “go-to†ball for house-type conditions where I either need additional length because of the deterioration of the fronts, or recovery on conditions where the track has broken down and I need to go more left-to-right.
Why this ball?
I’ve been watching and waiting with this particular slot in the tournament bag. I recall the initial disappointment at the Radical, and the comments about its unpredictability, and thus I considered drilling either a Smokin’ Inferno or a BVP Rampage as a go-to ball. However, as I started to see more and more Radicals in my league and at tournaments, I began to think that it might be the perfect fit.
Against the advice of two very knowledgeable people, I went with the 5†above layout, and I didn’t change the box finish. I did this mainly because of past success with this layout in equipment with the original Inferno core design. I still have an Absolute Inferno with this layout, and it’s been a very consistent performer for me.
Observations:
The Radical made its maiden voyage in a tournament at a center with an old wood surface, in the second squad after oiling. The Radical seemed to be right at home there, as I had enough of a launchpad in front to keep the ball on line to the breakpoint, at which point it made a strong arc to the pocket. Because of the strength of the arc, I did have to cheat left a bit and play more from the oil to the dry. I did have to be careful not to keep the ball in the oil too long, or it would squirt and lose both its reaction and its hit. Over the course of the two sets that I bowled, I found myself moving my feet frequently during the transition until the lanes finally reached equilibrium in the last game. Despite having to stand in front of the ball return, I was still getting a clean reaction with great recovery, and the carry was phenomenal.
I also used the Radical at a tournament on lanes with synthetic fronts and old wood in back. Because of the longer oil in the middle of the lane, I wanted to play the lane more direct, but the breakpoint was a bit touchy until the track broke down. As a result, one shot would hit high-flush and leave a 9, and the next would hang a bit in the oil and leave a late 10. I ended up conquering this over-under reaction by moving further left, softening the speed, and using more axis rotation, which made the ball go straighter in front but still react hard off of the break.
Conclusions:
For me, the Radical is to the lane conditions in 2007 what the original Inferno was to the lane conditions in 2003, with a few minor differences. First, while I can use the Radical to play more direct, it doesn’t seem to thrive on tighter conditions the way the original Inferno did. Second, the original Inferno seemed to have an inside limitation. Once I got my feet past a certain point, the Inferno lost its ability to recover enough to kick the corners. I don’t seem to have this problem with the Radical, though, for the more the lanes break down, the better it seems to get. Third, what people have been saying about the Octane cover giving a different look at the pin deck seems to be spot on if my experiences have been any indication. The Radical kicks out more 10s on marginal hits than any of my original Infernos ever did.
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...formerly "The Curse of Dusty," and "Poöter Boöf" before that...
Post by: krazieracer51 on March 18, 2007, 04:34:51 PM
Post by: Freakin10pin on March 19, 2007, 08:29:38 AM
a.) Has the wrong surface for the condition.
- OR -
b.) Has the wrong ball out for the condition.
I can see why people may complain about it but when used as it was intended, this thing KILLS the rack.
If an angular move is not your thing, then this ball is not for you.
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Righty
Speed: average 16.5 (Quibica)
Revs: med-high to high
Axis: 5-3/4" w/ 0' tilt ( hi-track )
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Post by: Captain Stabbin on April 02, 2007, 04:05:33 PM
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Post by: LeoAnalyn on April 04, 2007, 02:51:29 PM
I have no plan of getting the Radical since I heard a lot of love and hate about it but I just got a good deal getting a used one with the same span and drilled same as I wanted. After the span adjusted. Wow! this ball is perfect! For high Rev bowler you got to love this. This ball roll similar to my Favorite or Go To ball Blazing Inferno. If you love the Retired Blazing then Radical is a great compliment.Post by: Jepp114 on April 23, 2007, 03:20:53 PM
Tweener
15# 2oz, 2.9TW, 0" pin
OOB surface
3 3/4" ptp, 315° layout, pin ended up under ring finger.
no balance hole, fingers drilled deep.
slightly heavier THS, and sometimes more oil with no strip on top of the first shift (lots of carrydown).
Synthetic
standing 27, 15 at the arrows and around 5 at 45'.
Pin-Action is amazing. Light hits shred the rack, messengers are plentiful. If you try to play straighter with this expect alot of stone 8's and 9's because it is saving way too much energy. I've tried playing up the boards with this with highspeed and normal delivery and that's what you get. To play up 10 with this ball you have to really back off the release as well as stay behind the ball to get into a roll, otherwise keeping the same speed and putting some sideroll will get you a brooklin or 2 pin. This ball's strength really comes out when playing through the oil into the dry. Carry down is only a problem if the carrydown is right at the breakpoint, but as soon as it makes its turn, carrydown is ignored, so you can slow it down and let the ball react. There is a lot of love/hate with this ball, but for me I'm on the love side, this is a great ball, see for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXo_t9Q1GyU
Post by: metsfan698606 on April 27, 2007, 11:54:14 AM
I have used this ball on all wood conditions as well as synthetic, and, with my drilling layout, this ball got through the heads better on wood (a similar Christmas-tree oil pattern, 40-feet on each surface).
This is a good ball if your first ball out of the bag tends to be over reacting.
Post by: rockerbowler18 on May 13, 2007, 10:41:42 PM
I drilled it pin above ring finger, CG about 15* down/right.
4" pin, drilled to go long and snap when the heads are fryed.
At first I didn't like this ball much, it was way too weak. However, once I got a few games on it, it was great. Did exactly what I expected, and as an added bonus: I've never seen a ball carry so many 9 pins with messengers!
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Buzzsaw's Enriched Uranium.
Brunswick's Radical Inferno.
Average: 207
Post by: aguynamedpat on May 29, 2007, 09:35:00 PM
. Before this ball I stayed away from brunswick equipment, but when my buddy in the pro shop said he was selling his for $20 I had to get it. Our drilling specs are almost identical, so I grabbed it. I finally got to bowl with it on fresh oil today, and I LOVE IT. Granted it was just open play on a fresh house shot, but I went 236-227-257 for a 720. Ive also rolled a 244, 250, 237. The ball has alot of strikes in it .Pin is below bridge, thats about all I know about the layout. Im an average rev player, about 15mph or so. For me, this ball loves to go straight up the outside and roll right into the pocket. It has a nice predictable roll, doesnt hook up too early but doesnt have an uncontrollable backend.
Dont get lazy or the ball WILL leave nasty splits. Its a pretty forgiving ball for me as far as missing my mark, AS LONG AS I dont get lazy. The ball also does have a tendency to leave a 10 pin or two. Overall Im happy with brunswick again, and I may be picking up another one in the Inferno line in the near future to play with.
Post by: Viper3 on July 02, 2007, 02:01:26 AM
Post by: Frank The Tank on September 06, 2007, 09:27:55 AM
Drill Pattern: 3 1/4 by 3 (Weight hole on my centerline) CG kicked out lil past my axis coordinates
My PAP: 5 1/2 > 1 1/4 ^
Hand Span: 4 3/8 by 4 1/2 cut to cut
Thumb Pitch: 1/4 reverse and 1/8 left (away from the palm)
First time used (8-29-07): Thumb Weight 1/16 ounces, Side weight 3/4 ounces
Averaged close to 160
Second time used (9-5-07): Finger Weight 1/4 ounces, Side weight 3/4 ounces
Averaged around 199 in 8 games
Played straighter down and in to the 10th board and snapped back and swung it out and recovered as long as it hit the 10th board on the last 15 to 20 foot on the lane.
When I first tried this ball out I had 1/16 thumb weight and 3/4 of side weight. It was layed out 3 1/4 by 3 layout because I am a power stroker and I needed a similar layout than my Black Cherry Bomb. The weight hole was at my centerline to have it at the neutral position and to help it maintain it's predictability. The first week it was garbage because it never stored no energy through the front part of the lane. We have a short pattern of 39 feet and I was about to replug and redrill the ball but I didn't. It just rolled out on me leaving washouts like 1,2,4,6,10 and 1,2,10 split. Reason being is because the ball was made to use energy quickly on the front part of the lane because of the coverstock. I even couldn't average close to a 160 with that ball instead I average in the 150's because that ball needed a ton of oil and did not match up with the lane conditions where I was bowling at. So what did I do since the ball burned up too much energy? I felt like I needed to do something and the only option I had left before I made any changes to the ball was to get rid of the thumb weight I had so I changed it from 1/16 of thumb and made it 1/4 of finger weight by drilling the thumb deeper to help the ball retain some of it's energy the next week's special I averaged 199 with it. Played out with the 10th board played a little inside by swinging it out and it would come back hard with good pin action. I threw this ball straight and hard and it would roar back to the pocket like it wasn't nothin. It's not because it's a strong ball but today's lane conditions you mainly need a ball that stores energy through the front part of the lane and the last 20 feet to help make it's move strong. If you do not have stored energy your ball will burn up and will not move for ya. This ball just rocks I bought this ball NIB for 69.99 shipped on a 15lb on bowlingdeals.com go and grab you one you will not be disappointed and I saved a ton of money and bought 2 more if I needed to. Remember what I told you all when you drill it make sure it matches up to the lane condition that you are bowling on you should not have a problem throwing this ball. I should have a video of this ball coming soon later this month on you tube.
Pics
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/view/1030798_tcjs0 (CG is where the blue light is the dot)
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/view/1030799_2soku
Video
Coming soon on you tube
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Post by: BrianCRX90 on October 12, 2007, 10:01:49 PM
When I first got this ball like a lot of people, I hated this ball. First thing I thought of was I got it drilled too weak having the middle finger above the pin with the CG kicked to the right. CG is only 1" from the pin. This ball is not even close to being a strong as advertise. It was only on a dry lane condition I found this ball useful. On a wet/dry condition I was struggling to find any type of consistency. This ball absolutely stunk inside and tight. However, on the PBA scorpion pattern I stood very right and played direct and this ball finally shined but I had to loft it to make it hit decently.
After all this, seeing, hearing and reading about the polish that came on the ball...I decided not to strip it off but soaked it in very hot water for a half hour. Still had it's shine but did remove some of it and that was enough.
Threw it again last night on a short house shot. Was going to use a different dull ball I have and loop the whole lane but stood right and threw it out to 10, then towards the end of the first game out to 5 and this ball was rolling terrific and just blowing the pins off the rack. That is what I like about these Octane coverstocks is how nice they roll on the heads.
So really this has happened to me before. There has been balls from the factory that the polish is so overkill it will lack a decent reaction. I may try using a scotch brite pad or take it to the pro shop and take it to 1000 abarlon and then mildly polish it up as I want to be more for medium oil shots. This ball is unreal playing outside with. My first Brunswick ball since 1999 and amazed with it. Even with the coverstock alterations, it still is not total aggressive ball like it says it is but to be honest I'm glad it's not.
Post by: Boughton1 on October 28, 2007, 03:40:43 PM
Post by: difiCa on November 25, 2007, 02:01:25 PM
Surface: Box, then changed to 2000 Abralon.
Purpose: To give me something with a more skid-snap look to handle mediums.
Observations: With the shine, the ball worked fine, but seemed to go too long sometimes without a big enough snap, especially when not throwing it far enough to reach the outside dry boards.
It just skid on oil, and when thrown to the outside, after the outside boards had really dried, it would go high all the time.
Sanded with 2000 Abralon, it retained the skid-snap look, and cut through the oil more effectively. It also wouldn't react so aggressively to the dry boards, which allowed me to shoot it farther outside without the fear of going high.
Final thoughts: I liked the ball with box surface on a fresh shot, but the 2000abr surface was what got the ball to really work for me. It is a good ball to use for a fresher THS, but gets too jumpy to use in a drier pattern.