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Black Diamond
on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
- Color: Solid Black
- Core: Dynasty
- Cover: Traction Diamond
- Type: Solid Particle (Medium Load)
- Reaction: The most angular solid particle ball ever released by Lane Masters

Pat Patterson

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Re: Black Diamond
Reply #1 on: August 28, 2009, 01:30:26 AM
Purchased on June 25th, 2009 from Kent Wagner at Nationals.  Ball came 15lbs-2oz, 3 3/4 TW and 3 3/8" Pin, ball is drilled 48* x4 1/4" x 38* which placed the pin directly above the bridge. Ball was highly-polished using Legends Extended Length Polish.  On fresh oil(38' buffed to 45" using Control oil) on Brunswick synthetic lanes, ball was very comparible to a highly polished pin-up Terminator I had owned previously, it gets down the lane very easily, due to polish and a 4 1/4" Pin-to-PAP and turns rather hard once encountering the dry back-ends. Pin carry reminds me of the above mentioned Terminator and has excellent carry. Played around the 10 board and flirted with the gutter on purpose and easily got the ball to recover.

For comparisons sake I threw a pin-down Black Pearl(800 grit scotch-brite with Legends polish), it was roughly 2 boards weaker than it, and a total of 4 board weaker than my Pin-down Black Diamond.

If you have any questions about these or any other Legends balls in collection, feel free to contact me via this website.

I strongly believe Lane Masters has yet another winner in the Black Diamond.

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Re: Black Diamond
Reply #2 on: August 28, 2009, 01:37:43 AM
Purchased on June 25th, 2009 from Kent Wagner at Nationals.  Ball came 15lbs-2oz, 3 3/8 TW and 3" Pin, ball is drilled 60* x 4" 65* which placed the pin just below the ring finger.  This pin-down version OOB(1200 matte I believe), ball is very, very strong and very similar to a pin-down Dynamic Power I recently owned but got rid of due to the fact I probably wouldn't see enough oil to utilize it. This Black Diamond, although it hooks a ton, allowed me to move in to around 3rd arrow and swing ball pretty much as far right as I wanted(except the gutter) and the ball would still maintain enough energy to recover. FYI, I am not a bowler who likes to swing the ball alot(I am primarly a track player) but I could probably score well with this ball as it has excellent hitting power.

I have yet to alter the coverstock on this one, most likely won't and keep it as my "Oiler". Also, this Black Diamond in box condition compared to the polish pin-up version(previously reviewed) is about 4-5 boards stronger and obviously much stronger in the midlane department.

For comparisons sake I threw a pin-down Black Pearl(800 grit scotch-brite with Legends polish), it fell right in between the two Black Diamonds(2 boards weaker than the pin-down Black Diamond and 2 boards stronger than the pin-up Black Diamond).

Hope these reviews are helpful,
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Re: Black Diamond
Reply #3 on: August 29, 2009, 06:21:50 PM
About the Ball: 15 lbs, 3 1/2” pin from center of gravity, 3 1/2" x 3" (close to stacked leverage), pin just right of ring finger, CG right and down from grip centerline (thumb positive quadrant), shallow weight hole at positive axis point, static weights: 3/4 oz side,1/4 oz thumb, 1 1/2 oz top weight. Prior to drilling: 15 lbs 2 oz, 3 7/8 oz top weight. Durometer: 75 ‘D’ scale hardness on surface (no mill hole). Medium load Traction Diamond particle solid coverstock, Radius of Gyration: 2.559 (same as Black Pearl and Black Pearl Reactive), Differential RG: 0.055 (same as Black Pearl and Black Pearl Reactive).
My Black Diamond was drilled by Joe at Impact Bowling in Sun City, Arizona.
Characteristics with out-of-the-box factory polish: Not quite skid-flip but excellent length with a strong move at the break point. This is an excellent benchmark ball for me and is first out of the bag on fresh conditions, medium to medium-heavy oil.
In charting my games with the Black Diamond: 79% pocket strikes, 72% in the pocket, 59% strikes. In comparison, over my most recent 453 games with all balls used: 72% pocket strikes, 72% in the pocket, 55% strikes. In other words, I hit the pocket at close to the same rate as I’m accustomed but with better pocket carry. Average with all balls over my most recent 453 games, league and tournament: 211. Average with the Black Diamond, 37 games, league and tournament: 216. To date, the Black Diamond is my best out-of-the-box ball. Highly recommended!
09/28/2009 Update: 300 game tonight with the Black Diamond. This ball continues to excel on medium/heavy to heavy oil. Low maintenance so far. I wipe it off between frames with a micro-fiber cloth and clean it with Lane Masters cleaner and micro-fiber cloth after each set. Hit it with a white pad (1,000-grit) occasionally and the BD continues to act and react like new.
 
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Re: Black Diamond
Reply #4 on: September 01, 2009, 01:09:57 AM
Got it last week.  Punched 5" pin to PAP, with cg on the centerline for length.  Needed this ball, cause my other stuff is too strong.  The league lanes play like the Chameleon, and get kinda squishy in later games.  I used the Black Diamond for the first time, and it handled the late game great.  I got good length and a strong backend that didn't over react.  Could have been a special first game, but in between the strikes, I left a solid 8, a 9 and a 10.  I also left a 4-9 in the 10th which I picked up.

This ball showed me it can handle the late breakdown of oil, and hold the outside without a dive.  Just a controllable hook that is really sweet.  I'll get rid of those back row pins and will see some really nice games with it.  It has already given me confidence.

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Re: Black Diamond
Reply #5 on: November 04, 2009, 09:22:59 AM
Well got the BD and have good success with it as an OOB finish.  I use it primarily in later games when oil has spread.  I get great length and finish on spent lane conditions.

Last night, I took a 2000 grit abralon to the surface, and the ball lost its finish, and normal reaction.  Inside, it sailed, and outside it dove.  This is not the normal reaction I got with the factory finish.  Any comments?

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Re: Black Diamond
Reply #6 on: November 20, 2009, 10:10:04 AM
I picked this up about six weeks ago and it's paid for already.  Ball gives you nice length, with a sharp smooth arc to the pocket.  My ball is drilled 4 x 4, off my pap 4 by 3/8's up, pin above ring finger.  The ball gives you nice length, with decent mid-lane and great back-end.  Pin action is great, as always from Legends.  It appears carry down really doesn't affect this ball, it always seems to find the pocket.  I spoke with Tony Martin from Legends and he recommended the pin up drilling and he was dead on.  Compared to the Black Pearl and Terminator, this ball has a stronger (more angular) backend than either of them.  I hope it lasts.

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Re: Black Diamond
Reply #7 on: December 05, 2009, 05:45:44 PM
I'm a keep this short. I had my Black Diamond for around two months now, its a excellent ball for medium/heavy to heavy oil with lenght. This ball is no exception in the hitting power area either. If your in or around the pocket with this ball, good things are bound to happen. I feel invincible at my main house with this in the bag. If the lenght high volume shot is put out, which the majority of the time it is, I got a chance every time.
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Re: Black Diamond
Reply #8 on: December 27, 2009, 11:30:56 PM
Pin over ring finger.  CG on the center line.  The transition at the break is a work of art.  You barely have to hit on the ball at release.  Clean out of the front into a heavy roll through the mid-lane and controlled angular move to the pocket.  The combo of Dynasty core and solid particle allow you to chase the oil line at a very slow rate.  I can use the BD for a three game set with no problem.
This is such a fun ball.  A must have for the Legends aficionado.

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Re: Black Diamond
Reply #9 on: March 29, 2014, 04:54:12 PM
LANE CONDITION
Fresh shot on Brunswick Pro Anvil

Length:41'

Volume:medium 22mils

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):THS/Modified Stone Street


COMMENTS
The Black Diamond is drilled with the pin above bridge and cg is just right of grip center and no weight hole. The ball is amazing and get through the front part of the lane like a hot knife through butter! I had to wonder if the ball was ever going to hook and then all of a sudden left turn. I'm amazing at the hitting power and that more people haven't tried this ball. This is an older Lane Masters/Legends ball and is owned by California Bowling/Lord Field.

Likes:Love the length, the movement at the break point and hitting power!

Dislikes:Haven't used it before now!


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