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suhoney24

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Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« on: September 19, 2016, 10:31:58 AM »
So I have been informed now that starting this year when I come back since I only throw with 2 fingers I can't put all 3 in the ball now for a spare (think along the lines of Osku) I mean how many little things are they going to keep adding to try to drive us away from this style of bowling?
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suhoney24

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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2016, 02:36:11 PM »
They said the rule was just written into the book this year so not sure that one from 2014 is it
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2016, 03:09:47 PM »
Quote from: suhoney24 on September 19, 2016, 02:36:11 PM
They said the rule was just written into the book this year so not sure that one from 2014 is it

If Mr. Rulebook league official knows the rule is valid, he/she should be able to show you in the USBC rulebook. If he can't, tell him it ain't a rule until it can be proven. Or, make up your own rule like, a new rule that you automatically get a win when you bowl his team. Yep, says so right in the rule book.  ;D
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2016, 03:37:17 PM »
This is from this year's rule book :

"18b/3 A bowler is using the two-handed approach. The bowler’s dominant hand is the right
 hand. Can the bowler use the right hand for spares?
 Yes, since both deliveries are with the same dominate hand, the bowler did not change
 delivery and, therefore, is not in violation of any USBC rules"

As long as the ball is legal with both forms of delivery then it shouldn't be an issue.  This means that you would use two different ways of measuring the static weights. One with the center grip at the bridge and the 3rd hole as a weight hole. And the other with the center of grip between the fingers and thumb hole(3rd hole).   The 3rd hole would need to fall under all rules of a balance hole when bowling two fingers. 

"2. One hole for balance purposes not to exceed 1¼ inches in diameter. This hole may not
exceed 1¼ inches at any point through the depth of the hole. (Slugs and tape will be
allowed, however interchangeable devices are not allowed)"
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2016, 03:42:50 PM »
Basically OP, you can tell them all to suck it.
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2016, 01:11:32 PM »
It is truly amazing how people can read the rules then twist the words around to fit it to what they "think it" should be.

Anyone that is telling you a rule, should have the rule book right there to back it up. I mean anyone can download it. 

 
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2016, 10:08:16 PM »
You can have up to 4 finger holes drilled into the ball and you do not techinally have to use any of them (just demostrate they can be used). Know the thumb hole and balance hole is different.  If you have a thumb hole and NO balance hole you do not have to use the thumb all the time (just demostrate it can be used). If you have a thumb hole & balance hole you have to use the thumb hole on every shot. We have several people here that have 3 to 4 finger holes and they do not use all of them on every shot and that is NOT against the rules. Someone is feeding you a bunch of crap.
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2016, 07:24:08 AM »
As a two hander you can not have 4 holes in your unless you are a two hander that uses three fingers.
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2016, 09:32:44 AM »
Quote from: t1buck on September 21, 2016, 10:08:16 PM
You can have up to 4 finger holes drilled into the ball and you do not techinally have to use any of them (just demostrate they can be used). Know the thumb hole and balance hole is different.  If you have a thumb hole and NO balance hole you do not have to use the thumb all the time (just demostrate it can be used). If you have a thumb hole & balance hole you have to use the thumb hole on every shot. We have several people here that have 3 to 4 finger holes and they do not use all of them on every shot and that is NOT against the rules. Someone is feeding you a bunch of crap.

This information is only partially correct.  In any ball, with any delivery, you can have only 1 hole that is not used for gripping.  For example, if you have 3 finger holes, a thumb hole and a balance hole then you will need to always put your fingers (all 3) and the thumb in the holes.  Also, if you are a two handed bowler and do not have a balance hole but have two finger holes and a thumb hole drilled but do not use the thumb hole on every delivery or at all you are good.  You do not have to demonstrate that it is usable.  It is at this point a weight hole.
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2016, 04:29:46 PM »
What I posted came directly from Usbc when this type of question was ask.
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2016, 07:30:41 AM »
Quote from: t1buck on September 22, 2016, 04:29:46 PM
What I posted came directly from Usbc when this type of question was ask.

How long ago, this rule was modified last year.
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2016, 09:38:19 PM »
It was clarified to association last year.  The rule changed at the beginning of last season and the clarification came out toward the end of last season. It is not in the rule book but was sent out in a email blast from usbc to all local & state association. The rule change you are talking about it what some called a cyclob(spelling) drilling that is where people where putting the weight hole above the fingers. Buddy had  ball drilled like that and know it is illegal to use. Again you can have 4 finger holes in the ball and do not have to used all of them for each delivery. Thumb hole is a whole different situation. An honestly you can still have up to 11 holes in the ball (4 finger (each with a vent hole) and thumb (plus a vent hole) and a balance hole.
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