Author Topic: Bowling on the wrong lanes? (Read 11018 times)

L3nn0n · « **on:** March 27, 2015, 09:40:23 AM »

Well, yesterday in my league we were supposed to be bowling on lanes 7-8. I don't know why, but all the teams were moved one pair to the left, so we ended bowling in 5-6. The teams that were supposed to bowl on 3-4 were moved to the other side of the building and bowled on 25-26. We let the secretary and the president know about it and we asked why we were gonna bowl on different lanes than the scheduled and they said it was a "computer glitch".

I don't have any complain about this. But my teammates do. They said that it is against USBC rules, blah, blah, blah and that they were gonna complain with them and that they were gonna try to invalidate yesterdays results. By the way we only won one game lol. My question is, do they have a case here? I mean, I don't want to complain, but since we are (or we were) first place until yesterday and the league is about to end, I guess they are gonna give it a try.

We lost 2 games with three of us bowling 675, 675 and 680. They had one "sub" with 164 average after nine games and he bowled 225, 243 and 210. Hard to beat that, isn't it?

Luvswatch · « **Reply #1 on:** March 27, 2015, 09:47:14 AM »

IDK about the rule on that. If it was mechanical failure so be it. But since everyone was moved, they all had to deal with it.

More of an issue is did you have a "bagger" sub on the other team, more than anything.

charlest · « **Reply #2 on:** March 27, 2015, 09:47:32 AM »

I find it hard to believe that that situation would be illegal, but you never know what reason they (the USBC) might come with.

milorafferty · « **Reply #3 on:** March 27, 2015, 09:55:42 AM »

Bowlers being bowlers. Even golfers don't whine and cry about nothing like bowlers.

L3nn0n · « **Reply #4 on:** March 27, 2015, 10:13:34 AM »

I know. I don't mind about being moving to another lanes, our butt would've been kicked in 5-6 or in 7-8 with that sandbagger on that team. But my teammates complained before the league started because we bowled on those lanes last week and they hate it them even when we won all games. What pissed me off is that we did our best, we bowled pretty good, all of us bowled at least 10 pins above our average and we won nothing! NONE! I asked this guy what his real average was after having the first six in the second game because a 164 can't bowl the way he was... He got unconfortable and then I made a joke to break the ice and let things go... Next shot, he missed with a 7-10 hehe...

I would never complain for something like switching lanes. It wasn't a mechanical failure of any of the lanes. It was just a "computer glitch" on the schedule... But if they complain, I hope we can do something about it, just because of that son of a b***h they had on their team. He had 800 series handicap! How can I beat that even when I bowled 205, 246 and 225???

Luvswatch · « **Reply #5 on:** March 27, 2015, 10:38:33 AM »

I hear ya! I had a 690 last night, with 248 in game 2 and that was the one we lost. Took 3 of 4 points, so can't complain. Really sounds like a bagger sub though...

kidlost2000 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 27, 2015, 11:12:26 AM »

As long as you bowl on lanes it doesnt matter which. Bowlers are f%cktarded as they come.

Good Times Good Times · « **Reply #7 on:** March 27, 2015, 11:22:08 AM »

Quote from: L3nn0n on March 27, 2015, 09:40:23 AM

I don't have any complain about this. But my teammates do. They said that it is against USBC rules, blah, blah, blah and that they were gonna complain with them and that they were gonna try to invalidate yesterdays results.

Please cite the rule they're invoking.....

Dogtown · « **Reply #8 on:** March 27, 2015, 11:27:40 AM »

There are no USBC rules that state what lane you must bowl on every week. Refer to Chapter 4 of the USBC Rule Book. It is completely up to the league how lanes are assigned each week.

If your teammates would have shot lights out and won all your games, would they still complain? My guess is probably not.

Excuses only benefit the person saying them.

Better luck next week.

LookingForALeftyWall · « **Reply #9 on:** March 27, 2015, 11:29:34 AM »

Quote from: L3nn0n on March 27, 2015, 10:13:34 AM

What pissed me off is that we did our best, we bowled pretty good, all of us bowled at least 10 pins above our average and we won nothing! NONE!

I shot 755 (with 15 strikes in a row - FIGJAM!) last week and lost to a guy who shot 772. Not only that but I did not make anything in any of the high game pots or the eliminator.

And you know what? It happens. I bowled well, just not as good as the other guy (or other people in the pots/eliminator). Next time, I'll try just as hard and see if I get a better outcome. Winning is not the only thing that marks success in life.

Aloarjr810 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 27, 2015, 11:29:51 AM »

Quote from: L3nn0n on March 27, 2015, 09:40:23 AM

I don't have any complain about this. But my teammates do. They said that it is against USBC rules, blah, blah, blah and that they were gonna complain with them and that they were gonna try to invalidate yesterdays results. By the way we only won one game lol. My question is, do they have a case here?

This has came up before in the forums, As long you and the team you bowled against are on the same pair of lanes it's legal.

JohnP · « **Reply #11 on:** March 27, 2015, 11:51:22 AM »

If your league has a 10 pin rule check to be sure the average the sub used was correct. -- JohnP

Good Times Good Times · « **Reply #12 on:** March 27, 2015, 12:07:06 PM »

Quote from: Dogtown on March 27, 2015, 11:27:40 AM

There are no USBC rules that state what lane you must bowl on every week. Refer to Chapter 4 of the USBC Rule Book. It is completely up to the league how lanes are assigned each week.

I know, it was a rhetorical question in a sense.

One the OP should ask his teammates and report the literal answers he gets.

spmcgivern · « **Reply #13 on:** March 27, 2015, 12:17:50 PM »

I am only saying this as devil's advocate:

If the league schedule was correct, suppose to bowl on 7 & 8, then according to Rule 106a you have to bowl on 7 & 8.

106a. Series - How Bowled
Two lanes immediately adjoining each other shall be used in each game of league play. The first game of a series shall start on the lane where the team is scheduled with each succeeding game starting on the lane where the team finished its previous game. At the option of the league, each game or frame may be bowled on a different pair of lanes.

Key phrase "shall start on the lane where the team is scheduled."

Rule 100a. also states something to the same affect:

100a. Qualifications
USBC will certify leagues participating in the game of American tenpins with the following provisions:
1. All leagues must meet the following requirements:
a. Apply for certification through the local association in whose jurisdiction it bowls.
b. Consist of four or more teams with the playing strength of one or more players per team as determined by league rule.
c. Bowl in accordance with a prearranged schedule based on the number of teams in the league.
d. Adopt rules and prize list (if any). (See Rule 117a and Rule 122.) (Suggested adult and youth league rules can be found on BOWL.com.)
e. All players seeking membership must be qualified under the bylaws of USBC. (See USBC Introduction, Chapter 1.)
f. Provide for the designation of a team champion by the games bowled in scheduled competition.
g. Govern themselves by USBC rules. Other rules may be added, but must not conflict with USBC rules.

Just sayin'

L3nn0n · « **Reply #14 on:** March 27, 2015, 12:57:47 PM »

Quote from: spmcgivern on March 27, 2015, 12:17:50 PM

I am only saying this as devil's advocate:

If the league schedule was correct, suppose to bowl on 7 & 8, then according to Rule 106a you have to bowl on 7 & 8.

106a. Series - How Bowled
Two lanes immediately adjoining each other shall be used in each game of league play. The first game of a series shall start on the lane where the team is scheduled with each succeeding game starting on the lane where the team finished its previous game. At the option of the league, each game or frame may be bowled on a different pair of lanes.

Key phrase "shall start on the lane where the team is scheduled."

Rule 100a. also states something to the same affect:

100a. Qualifications
USBC will certify leagues participating in the game of American tenpins with the following provisions:
1. All leagues must meet the following requirements:
a. Apply for certification through the local association in whose jurisdiction it bowls.
b. Consist of four or more teams with the playing strength of one or more players per team as determined by league rule.
c. Bowl in accordance with a prearranged schedule based on the number of teams in the league.
d. Adopt rules and prize list (if any). (See Rule 117a and Rule 122.) (Suggested adult and youth league rules can be found on BOWL.com.)
e. All players seeking membership must be qualified under the bylaws of USBC. (See USBC Introduction, Chapter 1.)
f. Provide for the designation of a team champion by the games bowled in scheduled competition.
g. Govern themselves by USBC rules. Other rules may be added, but must not conflict with USBC rules.

Just sayin'

They never told me which rule they were talking about... But now, it looks like they can argue based on what you showed us, correct? Wow! Are you a lawyer? lol

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